Digital Download vs. Origins

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Digital Download vs. Origins

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This question has been asked by myself and others in several threads but never seems to get an answer:
Why can't digital download be offered at the same time as the CD going on sale at Origins (June 24)? It seems a shame that the vast majority of hard core Matrix supporters (in these forums) will have to wait while the general public has access to it. It also seems like it would be easier to offer it via download...of course you could fit everything I know about programming and download technology into the period at the end of this sentence. And still have room left over[8|].
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ORIGINAL: dwesolick

This question has been asked by myself and others in several threads but never seems to get an answer:
Why can't digital download be offered at the same time as the CD going on sale at Origins (June 24)? It seems a shame that the vast majority of hard core Matrix supporters (in these forums) will have to wait while the general public has access to it. It also seems like it would be easier to offer it via download...of course you could fit everything I know about programming and download technology into the period at the end of this sentence. And still have room left over[8|].

It almost seems that you thing there is a vast conspiracy to deny us this game before the people ar Origins...
Im sure the reason they wont be offered at the same time is because they CANT be offered at the same time.
I am sure all parties involved would like to get thos product out ASAP.
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I can understand that they want to have it available at Origins for the first time anywhere. That way, it's a big event, people come from miles around to get the game and meet the developers, and it makes the biggest possible splash. (I may yet make it to Origins myself, and if I do, WitP will be the only reaon I'm there.) But I hope that they'll have the download going on the 25th.
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It almost seems that you thing there is a vast conspiracy to deny us this game before the people ar Origins...
Im sure the reason they wont be offered at the same time is because they CANT be offered at the same time.
I am sure all parties involved would like to get thos product out ASAP.
No, I don't "thing" there is a vast conspiracy...just asking a simple question. At one time it was posted that DD would be available "shortly after" Origins, in another it was "several days". Just wondering why the delay.

If they want to make a splash at Origins, that's great. But then, in theory at least, DD should be available the next day, no?
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Marketing guys ... Big splash at Origins might help sell some copies. You'll get it a couple of days later. Don't know why you can't see it, it's rather obvious. If you get it first, not splash at Origins.
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Marketing guys ... Big splash at Origins might help sell some copies. You'll get it a couple of days later. Don't know why you can't see it, it's rather obvious. If you get it first, not splash at Origins.
Yes, I can see the logic here. I can picture the scene at Origins on the 24th

Potential customer: Wow, this War in the Pacific game looks great, think I'll buy it! What!? You mean it's also available for digital download starting today? Well, forget this!!(throws it down in disgust[:@]).

Yet another scene: PC Wargamer reviewer: Well, this game would have been worth buying, but those Matrix lunkheads had to go and offer it for digital download on the 24th![8|]

Sorry about the sarcasm, it would just be really nice to have a date to circle on the old calendar (like 24th, 25th, etc).
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Marketing guys ... Big splash at Origins might help sell some copies. You'll get it a couple of days later. Don't know why you can't see it, it's rather obvious. If you get it first, not splash at Origins.
Yes, I can see the logic here. I can picture the scene at Origins on the 24th

Potential customer: Wow, this War in the Pacific game looks great, think I'll buy it! What!? You mean it's also available for digital download starting today? Well, forget this!!(throws it down in disgust[:@]).

Yet another scene: PC Wargamer reviewer: Well, this game would have been worth buying, but those Matrix lunkheads had to go and offer it for digital download on the 24th![8|]

Sorry about the sarcasm, it would just be really nice to have a date to circle on the old calendar (like 24th, 25th, etc).

Guys. Believe me, they want to sell you this. [8|] It's a matter of days after Origins, not weeks.
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Ok, so it is a marketing scheme and not a production problem?

A new marketing scheme:

“Matrix Games and 2by3 are proud to present Witp at Origins for the first time and the entire world of dedicated war gamers.”

This is a one time opportunity for Matrix Games.

However, the delay is more than likely about a written contract with the promoters of Origins.
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Once I make the Gold Master I can make copies of the game for Origins. The digital download needs more time for our staff to get it ready for sale. Remember its got to be uploaded to severs overseas. If its possible to release this at the same time we will but do not expect it.
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David, Thanks for the input.. this forum is filled with gamers itching to get their hands on this... Thanks for the "why" as many where feeling less than appreciated.[:-] I am sorry I'll not be at Origins to say hi in person... thanks again for your commitment to this game genre.[&o]
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I agree, if they released the game now they would be stuck in Columbus for several days with nothing to do. [>:]
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Once I make the Gold Master I can make copies of the game for Origins. The digital download needs more time for our staff to get it ready for sale. Remember its got to be uploaded to severs overseas. If its possible to release this at the same time we will but do not expect it.

Thank you for trying to get this to us as fast as possible. As others mentioned it would be a shame to loose the weekend! My family is going to the shore and leaving me home so its work around the house or play WITP [8|]

Thanks[&o]
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Thank you for trying to get this to us as fast as possible. As others mentioned it would be a shame to loose the weekend! My family is going to the shore and leaving me home so its work around the house or play WITP

You are going to be playing the game for the next 200 weekends at least. Missing 1 doesn't really factor into the greater scheme of things. [:D]

Might want to get that work around the house done so you can free up the next couple of weeks. [;)]
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David, Thanks for the input.. this forum is filled with gamers itching to get their hands on this... Thanks for the "why" as many where feeling less than appreciated.[:-] I am sorry I'll not be at Origins to say hi in person... thanks again for your commitment to this game genre.[&o]

What Unappreciated.... you guys are our bread and butter and Matrix and I pretty sure 2by3 feels the same way. Shaun nor myself have not gotten more then 3 - 4 hours sleep since June 7. I can tell you now that we will be working from now up until the second the show is open to get you this game.

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Once I make the Gold Master I can make copies of the game for Origins. The digital download needs more time for our staff to get it ready for sale. Remember its got to be uploaded to severs overseas. If its possible to release this at the same time we will but do not expect it.

Thank you for trying to get this to us as fast as possible. As others mentioned it would be a shame to loose the weekend! My family is going to the shore and leaving me home so its work around the house or play WITP [8|]

Thanks[&o]

I am just trying to be honest.... the weekend is just not possible IMHO. You have just about the entire Matrix game staff flying from all over the world to be at Origins.
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I agree, if they released the game now they would be stuck in Columbus for several days with nothing to do. [>:]
Actually I was in Columbus, a long time ago, and there was this place (the spinnaker?) that made a "Garbage Burger" 1/3 lb patty and IIRC 11 different toppings on it. The thing was huge, and you had to really squeeze on it to get it to fit into your mouth. Lots of fun
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Once I make the Gold Master I can make copies of the game for Origins. The digital download needs more time for our staff to get it ready for sale. Remember its got to be uploaded to severs overseas. If its possible to release this at the same time we will but do not expect it.

Thank you for trying to get this to us as fast as possible. As others mentioned it would be a shame to loose the weekend! My family is going to the shore and leaving me home so its work around the house or play WITP [8|]

Thanks[&o]

I am just trying to be honest.... the weekend is just not possible IMHO. You have just about the entire Matrix game staff flying from all over the world to be at Origins.

Bummer, maybe I need to hitch a ride to Columbus [:D]
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Thanks for the update. One common thread is that Matrix promotes is the need to "get it right" and that includes the DD[:D]. Imagine how frustrating it would be if we couldn't download it. My confidence has been horribly shaken in the past with game companies that don't do it right from start to finish. While I haven't owned any Matrix games(I will remedy that very soon) I have a lot of respect for a company that say, and sticks to " when it is ready and not before." The only other company, besides Matrix that does that is Battlefront and their games are pretty much bug free and well thought out.

Take the time that is needed to make sure that it is done right from start to finish. What the heck is a couple of more days wait?
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i have already scheduled vaction time after july 5 holiday. i hope everything is in place by july1. did anyone ever have the UV manual printed up by one of the kikos and how much did it cost?
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i have already scheduled vaction time after july 5 holiday. i hope everything is in place by july1. did anyone ever have the UV manual printed up by one of the kikos and how much did it cost?

You'll be better off sitting with the Manual open in a PDF reader and being able to search through it *while* you have WitP up on the screen. Never understood why people insist on killing trees when they can read it on screen with a good search ability too!
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