resource/oil movement for allies? Needed?

[excelsior]

Do the allies need to transport oil and resources (from burma and india) to on-map industrial centers, or does the computer do it? If you ship them to Karachi, are they then sent to off-map areas, like England? (FYI I never use the computer convoy system)[:(]

[Platoonist]

I think at the beginning of a campaign game most players ship some oil off to Australia. Everywhere else that the Allies have factories and heavy industry such as on the U.S. West Coast is pretty well connected by rail.

[DrewMatrix]

As to the Allies needs, there is a balance between Heavy Industry and Oil. The only place the Allies have that has HI in excess of oil (ie the only place that can use extra oil) is Australia. If you don't get excess oil there you still get a lot of HI as the allies.

As to the Japanese wants, the Japanese need all the oil they can find. So just taking the oil to a place that can't actually use it still hurts them.

[SunDevil_MatrixForum]

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[rogueusmc]

SunDevil...you and your links...[8D]...I love you man.

[fbastos]

This may help with your plans; it lists how much resources and oil increase/decrease on each base, considering that all resource centers, oil center, manpower centers and heavy industries are fully active.

NET CHANGES FOR RESOURCES:

United States United States 4,750
Sumatra Palembang 1115
Sumatra Toboali 1115
Malaya Kuala Lumpur 740
Java Batavia 740
Java Soerabaja 740
Borneo Balikpapan 740
Borneo Tarakan 740
Sulawesi Kendari 740
Northeast Australia Rockhampton 740
Western India Lahore 560
Southern China Changsa 540
Southeast Australia Whalla 440
Soviet Union Okha 365
Western Australia Darwin 365
Western Australia Derby 365
Northeast Australia Cooktown 365
Southeast Australia Canberra 335
Southern China Weichow 320
Bengal Calcutta 320
Southern India Panaji 310
Southern India Bangalore 275
Inland China Chengtu 265
Inland China Kumming 245
Philippines Clark Field 156
Philippines San Marcelino 156
Soviet Union Vladivostok 125
Southern Burma Tavoy 125
Southern Burma Moulmein 125
Northern Burma Pagan 125
Philippines Tuguegarao 125
Southern Burma Rangoon 115
Northern Burma Taung Gyi 115
Northern Burma Mandalay 115
Malaya Mersing 100
Bengal Aransol 100
Southeast Australia Adelaide 75
Western Australia Perth 70
Soviet Union Khabarovsk 65
Western India Ahmadabad 65
Sulawesi Bulla 65
Southeast Australia Newcastle 65
Malaya Alor Star 62
Soviet Union Petropavlosk 52
Bengal Jamshedpur 50
Southeast Australia Geelong 20
Northern China Yenen 15
Northeast Australia Brisbane 15
Malaya Johore Bahru 12
Sumatra Medan 2
Sumatra Bankha 2
Borneo Brunei 2
Borneo Miri 2
Sulawesi Amboina 2
Sulawesi Sorong 2
Southern India Trivandrum -2
Philippines Manila -10
Northern China Lunchow -25
Southeast Australia Sydney -70
Bengal Dacca -92
Northern China Sian -125
Southeast Australia Melbourne -125
Inland China Chungking -135
Western India Bombay -145
United States San Diego -182
Western India Karachi -240
Western India Delhi -245
Malaya Singapore -297
Soviet Union Khomsomalsk -355
United States San Fransisco -375
United States Seattle -435
United States Los Angeles -2,072

NET CHANGES FOR OIL

Sumatra Palembang 4,200
United States United States 2,500
Soviet Union Okha 2,400
Borneo Balikpapan 1,800
Borneo Brunei 1,800
Java Batavia 600
Java Soerabaja 600
Borneo Tarakan 600
Borneo Miri 600
Northern China Lunchow 570
Southern Burma Rangoon 300
Northern Burma Mandalay 300
Sumatra Medan 300
Sumatra Bankha 300
Sulawesi Amboina 300
Sulawesi Sorong 300
Western India Lahore 240
Inland China Chungking 90
Northern China Sian 90
Southern China Weichow -5
Southern India Panaji -5
Inland China Chengtu -10
Southern India Bangalore -10
Southern India Trivandrum -10
Inland China Kumming -30
Bengal Dacca -30
Southeast Australia Canberra -30
Western India Delhi -60
Southeast Australia Geelong -120
United States San Diego -120
Northeast Australia Brisbane -150
Southern China Changsa -180
Northern China Yenen -180
Western India Ahmadabad -180
Soviet Union Vladivostok -240
Western India Bombay -240
Southeast Australia Adelaide -240
Soviet Union Khabarovsk -300
Malaya Singapore -300
Western Australia Perth -300
Southeast Australia Whalla -300
Southeast Australia Melbourne -300
Bengal Calcutta -360
Bengal Jamshedpur -360
Western India Karachi -360
Southeast Australia Newcastle -420
Bengal Aransol -480
United States Los Angeles -540
Southeast Australia Sydney -600
United States San Fransisco -600
United States Seattle -660
Soviet Union Khomsomalsk -720

Notice that some bases will vary a lot from these numbers as they draw from other bases through roads (like, Los Angeles pulling resources from United States). Therefore, you don't really have to worry about some bases, while others will require convoys. The oil situation is nevertheless -VERY- crappy for both sides.

Regards!
F.

PS: These numbers come from some simple formulas from the production spreadsheet on Excel from that very nice WitP fansite.