New Scenario's

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Jaypea
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New Scenario's

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Is anyone working on a 1936 Plan orange Scenario? Would be interested in getting a copy if any did!

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Jorm
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RE: New Scenario's

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yep
i am,still a while away
ive been collecting refence books on the plan, i have a few now based on suggestions from the forum. I have access to a great library system that specalises in military books.. yay

ive started but i can see its a long way off to get it right

I had planned a 1933 to 1936 scenario

I have started on the french -indochina forces, as they were there at the time and its a good way to start small and get used to the editor, so far ive added teh CV Bearn and the SS Surcouf, both seem to work
I think ill start with a small french-indochina scenario in 1933 and build from there.

cheers
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RE: New Scenario's

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I look forward to seeing the results! I am hoping that there will be several people working on new scenarios. Maybe there will be some collaboration [:D]

I am not much of a history expert but would like to help out on a plan orange scenario (1936-1946)

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RE: PANAMA CANAL

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Hi,

FQuite probably the dumbest move in History to that point was the Axis attack on an industrial plant capable of producing a ship a day, and several times the armarments of the rest of the world combined,(I'm sure President Roosevelt thanked God for Tojo's and especially Hitler's gratuitous declaration of war.)but if they were going to try it, why was the Panama Canal never shut down? Closing it added 6,000 + miles to the distance between the Atlantic and the Pacific, and that's only to reach the coast of Panama: Add the enormous distances of the Pacific itself, and the delay is at least 3 weeks for vessels over 30 knots.
This would apply to about 2/3 of U.S. ship production and shipyard repair capability. The canal could have been taken out by a couple maru's with troops, & explosives hidden below decks entering both ends of the canal on the evening of De. 6/7,1941. Scuttling the ships in the canal, blowing locks, etc. might well have made it easier to dig a new one somewhere else. Obviously, there would have to be ways to simulate carrier air attacks and amphibious landing in the canal zone, and to repair damage and to delay US ship production.
I'd love to hear any ideas on the subject.
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RE: Alternate Japanese strategy

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I have always thought the Japanese did just about the dumbest thing they ever did, when they destroyed the U.S. Pacific Fleet battlewagons in Peral Harbor on 7 Dec.,'41. Japan needed oii, but needed look no further than the Dutch East Indes, and to "help her Axis partners," Britain was alot weaker than the Soviet Union in Asia, especially considering the majority of the Japanese Army was pretty much bogged-down in the endless China war. President Roosevelt would have probably had a tough sell to American Isolationists to go to war to protect the British Commonwealth, and Dutch colonies.
If I can get the editor to 'save,' I'll try a campaign scenario that opens with Japanese declarations of war, (via surprise air attacks) on Singapore, Khota Bharu, and in the Dutch East Indies, with only the British Comonwealth, and Dutch possesssions in the war, i.e. the Japanese ignor the Phillippines, and the U. S. Pacific fleet.
I would love to hear any ideas on the subject.
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RE: Alternate Japanese strategy

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While mine isn't a 1936 scenario, mine is the same basic thing, but set in 1922, and again in 1926. Very few carriers. It's all up to big guns!

AS to where I'm at on mine, I have the data from 90% of all US, British, and Japanese guns and torpedoes 1899-1922, I have the class OOB for all US, 90% British, and 50% Japanese ships done, and I have completed the planning.

The Premise of mine is basically a WWI naval war in the Pacific. Carriers and cruisers are scouts, and the Dreadnought and Battlecruiser are the primary tools.

The conflict (as predicted) will center around the PI and the Central Pacific. However, invasions are going to be risky (what the heck does amphibious mean?), so it gives the other player time to react. And, the main aim to achieve victory is sending the other guy's fleet to the bottom.

I assume that Jorm's idea will cover War Plan Orange-3, a US plan completed in 1938. This will involve a combined carrier/battleship force (in essence, the historical WW2 a few years earlier), wheras mine covers War Plan Orange -2, which covers a potential war just after the signing of the Treaty of Versailles, and where the Washington Naval Treaty of 1922 thus never was signed/ratified. So, in my mod you will receive several "never-were" designs. I suggest you search on the forums for "War Plan Orange", and you will see screenshots of my mod, already well past the planning stage.
Designer of War Plan Orange
Allied Naval OOBer of Admiral's Edition
Naval Team Lead for War in the Med

Author of Million-Dollar Barrage: American Field Artillery in the Great War coming soon from OU Press.
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RE: Alternate Japanese strategy

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And when I say I have the data, I mean already coded into the scenario.
Designer of War Plan Orange
Allied Naval OOBer of Admiral's Edition
Naval Team Lead for War in the Med

Author of Million-Dollar Barrage: American Field Artillery in the Great War coming soon from OU Press.
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RE: Alternate Japanese strategy

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I'm hoping to design a scenario that postulates that the US had broken JN-25 and had about 2 months' warning of the attack at PH. Besides pleasing some Allied fanboys, I'm hoping this scenario will help demonstrate the absurdity of the Just Let it Happen fallacy of Pearl Harbor conspiracy theories.
"I know Japanese. He is very bad. And tricky. But we Americans too smart. We catch him and give him hell."

--Benny Sablan, crewman, USS Enterprise 12/7/41
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