ABDA Oil

[viking42]

Hello,

I'm trying to load oil and fuel on TK form any allied nationality to evac ABDA but it seems it is quit einpossible to load.

Only sometimes when i reform the TK TF's the ships will be albe to load. What is it all about?

I'm running the last patch
Thanks in advance

[Chris21wen]

I can't find this in the manual although I'm sure its there somwhere. The allies can't transport Oil. Basically they don't need to they effective get an unlimited amount of fuel. The Japanese however heve to ship the majority of the ABDA oil to Japan so that it can be converted to fuel etc.

[Twotribes]

I have never had any trouble loading Oil in DEI on TK.

[tsimmonds]

The allies can't transport Oil.

Not so. It can load onto Allied TK same as Japanese, just click "Load Resources."

[Chris21wen]

I've just had a another look in the manual and I can't find what I thought I was looking for which was only the Japanese can load oil so I think I'm wrong.

[rogueusmc]

ORIGINAL: Chris H

The allies can't transport Oil. Basically they don't need to they effective get an unlimited amount of fuel.

The allies DO need the oil. Maximum production in US is taken care of...but OZ is a TOTALLY different story.

[freeboy]

maybe it was ak cannot load oil but can load fuel?

[Twotribes]

I dont see a need to transport oil to Australia, except the oil you can rescue from DEI. The pool of HI is so high I dont think the allied war machine ever runs out. It is more economical to run fuel and supplies to Australia, though I do take the 51 thousand or so oil extra in San Diego and run it to Australia. AT 500 extra oil a day it is gonna be a long time before it builds up to enough to worry about another run.

[rogueusmc]

ORIGINAL: freeboy

maybe it was ak cannot load oil but can load fuel?

correct..AKs can load troops, supplies, resources and fuel.

[viking42]

i just wanted to evacuate oil but mostly can't load it in the TK

[tsimmonds]

It is more economical to run fuel and supplies to Australia

Actually it is more economical to run oil to OZ. You make one supply point and 1.333 fuel points in OZ for each oil point you take there. Clearly the oil takes up less transport capacity than do supply plus fuel. Since you need the stuff there anyway, why not make it there instead of on the west coast?

[Twotribes]

Once again, the US has a measly 580 or less excess in oil production, so we are talking one TK every 30 or so days to Australia. If your counting on that to run your war your gonna be sadly let down.

Now dont get me wrong, it doesnt hurt to send that TK every 30 plus days since you have excess TK anyway. But it isnt gonna run much in the way of your economy.

[pompack]

Never had a problem loading oil (either from US, Karachi or anywhere in the DEI) onto allied Tankers.

Per the manual, ONLY tankers can load oil however.

Just as an aside, the type of TF doesn't matter as long as it contains a tanker.

[Captain Cruft]

It's not the HI points that Oz produces that's important, it's the supply/fuel.

[Twotribes]

Every 30 or so days you can send 18000 oil to Australia, which is more effective? Sending AK with supplies from a never ending source in West Coast as long as your AK hold out, or once a month sending one tanker with oil to Australia?

Again, it is fine to send the tanker because frankly after the first big push to resupply the south Pacific, you have a lot of excess TK. But that lone tanker once every month isnt gonna supply much in Australia. It sure wont run your war effort on the supply and fuel it produces.

[Chris21wen]

[:o]Dam! Dam! Dam!

Been playing this all wrong. Very little oil in Aus. Must rush some there.

[tsimmonds]

Once again, the US has a measly 580 or less excess in oil production

Who says the USA has to run at full capacity? Why let Oz capacity sit idle for lack of oil?

[Twotribes]

So now your advocating taking oil from already producing sites to send on a month long trip to Australia where it can eventually be used?

[tsimmonds]

Absolutely. The supplies and fuel would have to make exactly the same trip, taking up much more shipping capacity.

Unless of course you were my PBEM opponent. Then I would recommend that you send no oil to Oz at all.[;)]

[Bradley7735]

He's saying that the US produces enough supply and fuel that the extra that comes from HI isn't as necessary in the West coast as it could be in Oz. Send oil, supply and fuel to Oz. Sending oil is more efficient, but you still need to send supply and fuel to suppliment what Oz produces locally.