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My granddaughter's first class teacher of English wrote
the 22th of June
I corrected in
the 22nd of June
The teacher said:"Grandfather's wrong!"
Who is right?
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Btw I think that it's is an invalid form for the neuter possessive its...however it's so common nowadays[:(]
It's is the abbreviation for it is
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Well, you are right on both counts. 22th of June is...well, it doesn't even sound right, for one thing.

So, I say tell that teacher to go back to English class.
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22nd is the correct term.
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ORIGINAL: Tankerace

Well, you are right on both counts. 22th of June is...well, it doesn't even sound right, for one thing.

So, I say tell that teacher to go back to English class.
Well, you are right on both counts. 22th of June is...well, it doesn't even sound right, for one thing.

So, I say tell that teacher to go back to English class.

hehe..and to some exercises of logics[:-]
22nd twentysecond
12th twelfth
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22th is how a poof would say it. You know, someone with more than a hint of mint. [8D]
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tell the teacher he is moron.

1st
2nd
3rd
4th

thats the way it goes, exeptions are 11th 12th 13th 14th
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The twenty-seco(nd) [8D] Its (possessive) [8D] It's- it is (abv) [8D]
The cat's playing. (abv)

The cats are playing. (poss)

Where is this teacher from?[X(]
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Scary isn't it? I'm thankful that mine is only 2, and I don't have to deal with situations like this yet....

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I would find a good Grammar book, Warriners comes to mind - notate the page(s), and send that lovely bit of misinformed miseducation to the schools department head, cc's to the Principal, and each member of the local School Board. That is attrocious.
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ORIGINAL: RevRick

I would find a good Grammar book, Warriners comes to mind - notate the page(s), and send that lovely bit of misinformed miseducation to the schools department head, cc's to the Principal, and each member of the local School Board. That is attrocious.


I would agree. Making the mistakes in the first place is bad enough. To arrogantly assert infallibility in the matter against the child's family significantly compounds the issue. It would been a simple matter for this teacher to take the challenge and verify or falsify the original claim (in this case, falsify).

There is good reason to suspect that the students who have this particular teacher will grow up less capable of dealing with the real world than students of some alternative teacher.

So, yes, I would send a notification to somebody, if possible.

For the sake of all the kids that this person would otherwise teach.
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I dunno know about y'all, but my Grandfather is -always- right. Whether it's its, it's, it is, cannot, can not, allot, or a lot.

Grandpa is -never- wrong! (and frankly, I think he's earned it!)
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The teacher said:"Grandfather's wrong!"

Wow, it is one thing to be wrong. It is something else entirely to come off with that type of comment to a child. I would be having a rather colourful discussion with the school board with regards to the credentials of the teacher in question.

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Just accuse the wanker of touching children in their "special areas." Gone in no time. Nobody needs fools in high places. Got enough of those already.
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Ah, the US education system in its finest yet again! I am an education analyst for Florida and see stuff like this daily!
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ORIGINAL: Ron Saueracker

Just accuse the wanker of touching children in their "special areas." Gone in no time. Nobody needs fools in high places. Got enough of those already.

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Re its and it's

it's is ONLY used as an abbreviation for "it is"

its (no apostrophe) is the possessive.

I would recommend "Eats Shoots and Leaves" as a light book about correct punctuation and hilarious examples of putting a comma in the wrong place.
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I would recommend "Eats Shoots and Leaves" as a light book about correct punctuation and hilarious examples of putting a comma in the wrong place.
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Ah, the US education system in its finest yet again! I am an education analyst for Florida and see stuff like this daily!

I also see many of these same problems each and every day. I work for New York University and many of the young adults that I come in contact with, cannot spell even simple words. Sadly, I am not speaking of those who use English as a second language, but rather those that have been raised here and whose primary language has been English for most, if not all of their lives. No child left behind indeed.......pass 'em all, lest we offend or embarrass even one family![:-] Mind you NYU isn't a small Community College, but rather a prestigious, Ivy-League level school, which has extremely high entrance requirements. In fact, it turns away many more people than it accepts. Sad, sad situation!

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It takes me a while to get my brain down to the level of a teacher, but I think I know what the teacher is "thinking" (using the term loosely).

Twenty
Twenty One
Twenty Two

Twentyeth
TwentyOneth
TwentyTooth

20th
21th
22th
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RE: Off Topic: English grammar

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Re its and it's

it's is ONLY used as an abbreviation for "it is"

its (no apostrophe) is the possessive.

Thank you for that correction that needed to be made.

Okay, the Gregg Reference Manual, Eighth Edition, states as follows:

"Ordinal figures are expressed as follows: 1st, 2d or 2nd, 3d or 3rd, 4th, etc. Do not sue an 'abbreviation' period following an ordinal figure."

It goes on to note that the editors prefer 2d to 2nd because the spellings used in the Manual are based on Merriam-Webster's Collegiate Dictionary, Tenth Edition, and that's the way they do it.

Gregg is authoratative, running over 500 pages.
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