Comments on the 8.3 Patch

[KG Erwin]

This replaces the old version 8.2 comments, which I unpinned and are now in the forum archives. This new thread is for comments on the 8.3 patch, which includes some updated scenarios and free version campaigns.

[Alby]

im seeing the infrantry change colors of uniform when they take casualties
in long camapign have I only seen this.

[KG Erwin]

Alby, I've seen the same thing, but I can't explain it. It may have an unintended benefit, as you can quickly tell which units have taken hits. I play with all units numbered, so there's no problem in differentiating the good guys from the bad guys.

[m10bob]

My German 75L70 and 88L56 guns used to have very distinctive soundfiles.(Is it possible I had "corrupted" the SPWAW files with those of Panzer Leo's H2h"?)..On my old harddrive,I had both files on my cpu..Truthfully,I liked the H2H versions of the sound and just ASSUMED Matrixgames had adopted them..[;)]
Very much like the improved OOB's,especially I&R units and A&P troops..

[Alby]

ORIGINAL: m10bob

My German 75L70 and 88L56 guns used to have very distinctive soundfiles.(Is it possible I had "corrupted" the SPWAW files with those of Panzer Leo's H2h"?)..On my old harddrive,I had both files on my cpu..Truthfully,I liked the H2H versions of the sound and just ASSUMED Matrixgames had adopted them..[;)]
Very much like the improved OOB's,especially I&R units and A&P troops..

H2H uses different sounds for those weapons
at least for the 88

[m10bob]

Thanks Alby..(Now I just need to finagle somebody to e-mail those 2 sound files to me????)

[tracer]

Here's the corresponding sound files for those weapons:

• 88L56 = 909, 910 and 911
• 75L70 = 986, 987 and 988

UnZipped, those 6 files are about 4mb.

When I checked in v8.3 both had zero entered in the 'sound' box, so I'm guessing they use the generic sound for their 'class' (i.e.: 06-Medium gun and 07-Large gun).

[Major Destruction]

ORIGINAL: m10bob

Very much like the improved OOB's,especially I&R units and A&P troops..

I'm glad somebody likes them

[KG Erwin]

ORIGINAL: Major Destruction

ORIGINAL: m10bob

Very much like the improved OOB's,especially I&R units and A&P troops..

I'm glad somebody likes them

As I recall, m10bob, you were the man who lobbied for the inclusion of these units, so now you have them. Major Destruction added these, so he deserves the kudos for doing the work. [&o]

[robot]

Whats I&R units and A&P troops if i may ask.

[Alby]

ORIGINAL: tracer

Here's the corresponding sound files for those weapons:

• 88L56 = 909, 910 and 911
• 75L70 = 986, 987 and 988

UnZipped, those 6 files are about 4mb.

When I checked in v8.3 both had zero entered in the 'sound' box, so I'm guessing they use the generic sound for their 'class' (i.e.: 06-Medium gun and 07-Large gun).

be advised, if you use your editor to make these sounds play for a particular weapon, you will get an OOB error message in pbem and online games.
what i did was just save the old sounds somewhere and renamed the 900
numbered sounds to match the weapon I wanted it to correspond with.

[Alby]

I was curious about those too

ORIGINAL: robot

Whats I&R units and A&P troops if i may ask.

[KG Erwin]

ORIGINAL: robot

Whats I&R units and A&P troops if i may ask.

I & R: Intelligence & Reconnaissance Platoon--attached to the HQ Company at US Infantry Regiment level.

A & P: Ammunition & Pioneer Platoon--attached to the HQ Company at US Infantry Battalion level.

[Alby]

Thanks[:)]

[robot]

Thanks Gunny

[m10bob]

Until now,SP genre games had fictionalised the scouting efforts of American units by including "scouts" in the Infantry Company formations.In fact,those scouts were part of their own formation called the I&R platoon,and while they were commonly part of a company,they were assigned from higher echelon(as Gunny stated).
If you ever read anything about Infantry tactics in Europe,you probably came across the term and wondered what it was.It was indeed a major grunt component of every Division,Regiment,and Bn,and could be called upon as ad hoc Infantry reinforcements,(as could the A&P unit).
Since they were mobile,they both easily performed the mission of setting up roadblocks quicker than a larger formation could.
The American army maintained continuous contact with the enemy by always "stretching out" with the I&R units,so higher echelon always(supposedly) knew where the enemy was.

[Kristo Vaher]

Yeah nice that 8.3 is out... Just where the heck am I supposed to download it from!? Website has no links, and I dont have Steel Panthers installed to use update thingy. So where? Its supposed to be a small file, but most likely NOT small enough that I cant notice it.

(Just using an external HDD for all my patches for different games, and Im storing patches there for games that I own yet dont have installed)

So where is it!?

[m10bob]

Go to the "members area" and download the patch from there.The patch does not take long..

[KG Erwin]

m10bob, thanks for that description of those units' role--a famous example is the heroic stand of Lt. Joseph Bouck's I & R Platoon, 394th Infantry Regiment against elements of the German 3rd Parachute Division near Lanzerath during the opening stages of the Battle of the Bulge. This episode is well-described in Charles MacDonald's "A Time for Trumpets".

[VikingNo2]

I went to the member area I can't find the patch, someone please help. Why can't it just be simple[&:]