Is the Wait over ???

[Froonp]

Just want to say :

Yaaaahooooooooooo !!!!

Read this :

"Matrix Games announced today that the tactical wargame Flashpoint Germany has officially “Gone Gold” and is set for release sometime next week. The game will be available both via CD and download from the Matrix Games website."


Patrice

[coregames]

Finally! I hope that the format for MWiF isn't written in stone yet, but at least now there will be movement.

[Enrique Lister]

Now is time for War. I wish to see a MWIF before 2006. (Sorry for my bad english)
¡A las barricadas![:)]

[Mziln]

My hopes are that soon we see how to sign up for the MWiF beta

[wodin]

Im sure WiF is well down the list. I expect CL to be finished before and that doesnt look like this nor the next year.

[ETF]

Thats too bad....I wonder why they have a forum up for the program if its 2-3 years away??

[Catgh_MatrixForum]

Basically how it goes is that the developer behind FPG is the developer taking on CWiF. I suspect it will still be a bit before beta testing will begin though.

[coregames]

from the pause in this forum, I would say the wait is still in effect for a bit longer

[Cheesehead]

Things have been real quiet on the WiFdiscussion list on Yahoo groups, too. My guess is that everyone is playing HoI2...at least that's what I'm doing. It's lots of fun and it's making the wait for MWiF easier.

[coregames]

Any thoughts yet from the design team about the direction for this project?

[wodin]

It looks as if the Coming soon forum is organised so that the next release is at the top and the predicted last release at the bottom. As WiF is at the bottom it looks like this game is I reckon at least 3 years away.

[Froonp]

ORIGINAL: wodin

It looks as if the Coming soon forum is organised so that the next release is at the top and the predicted last release at the bottom. As WiF is at the bottom it looks like this game is I reckon at least 3 years away.

I hope you're wrong...
I was enthusiastic when I saw that the other game was out, because I though that Robert Crandall and his team were about to begin the work on WiF.
It would be good to have fresh news.

Regards

[Froonp]

Well, the wait I was talking about when asking "is the wait over ?" was the wait for the starting of the actual work on the game by Matrix.

It seems that this wait is not over, and even if I don't really understand why the difficulties encountered developping Empire in Arms have an effect on the developping of World in Flames, I will have to be patient.

This patience may be helped by the fact that Gary Grisby's World at War is about to be released, I hope that it will be better than the other WWII strategic game produced some weeks ago (I don't remember its name right now, I only remember it is version II).

Regards

Patrice

[Cheesehead]

That would be Hearts of Iron 2. If you have not played it yet, I would recommend buying it to help pass the time while we wait for MWiF. It's not perfect but it is unique among WWII grand strategy games. Because it is RTS, you are pretty much limited to playing against the AI. While the AI is not great, it still offers the beginner an interesting game the first time through. Since you can play any country, I will get at least 100 hours of wargame entertainment from this game before I figure out the pattern of beating the AI. And for $40, that comes out to a worth while expenditure.

What I appreciate most about the game is the seamless combination of detailed micromanagement with grand strategy. This platform is, hopefully, just the beginning of an incarnation of wargames that will steadily improve with the growth of computing power and AI. IMO the ordinary AI is the only thing keeping this game from being great. It still merits recognition for advancing the genre. [:)]

[Froonp]

I think I prefer to buy Gary Grisby's World at War, because I often liked the games from Gary Grisby, and I did not like much Heart of Iron 1.

[stretch]

ORIGINAL: Froonp

Well, the wait I was talking about when asking "is the wait over ?" was the wait for the starting of the actual work on the game by Matrix.

It seems that this wait is not over, and even if I don't really understand why the difficulties encountered developping Empire in Arms have an effect on the developping of World in Flames, I will have to be patient.

Patrice

Yes I was perplexed by that comment as well. It was, I think, our collective unerstanding that WiF deveopment was contingent on FlashPoint Germany being finished ( I went looking for the quote from Matrix officails but couldnt find it). Now we are waiting on a different game again. So it does seem this game is further down the priorty list than we thought. Darn.

[coregames]

ORIGINAL: Froonp
It seems that this wait is not over, and even if I don't really understand why the difficulties encountered developping Empire in Arms have an effect on the developping of World in Flames, I will have to be patient.

I think it is understandable to some extent; what they are experiencing with finishing EiA should give them some idea of what WiF may entail, and the more they can get the project right in the conceptualization phase, the smoother the process will go from there. Rowland and Pinder definitely exhibit a design style that is continuous throughout their games.

[coregames]

ORIGINAL: Cheesehead
...Because it is RTS, you are pretty much limited to playing against the AI... I will get at least 100 hours of wargame entertainment from this game before I figure out the pattern of beating the AI. And for $40, that comes out to a worth while expenditure.

HoI II looks incredible, and you're right, that is a great value for the time you spend enjoying it. I just prefer the infinite challenge of multi-player games. I'm curious why it isn't playable that way! It almost seems like Paradox shot themselves in the foot by not including that feature. Can you play without AI using TCP/IP, or is the only multiplayer option splitting up one power?

[coregames]

ORIGINAL: stretch
I went looking for the quote from Matrix officails but couldnt find it...

Gentlemen,

CWiF is definitely a project that requires a long-term view. You may note that Flashpoint Germany has been released today and once post-release support has started to wind down, Robert Crandall (the developer for that title) will be devoting his full attention to CWiF. We've been in an "evaluation and planning" phase on this project for a while, which should quickly move into adding resources and development in the near future.

Regards,

- Erik

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Erik Rutins
Director of Product Development and Business Relations

[Cheesehead]

HoI II looks incredible, and you're right, that is a great value for the time you spend enjoying it. I just prefer the infinite challenge of multi-player games. I'm curious why it isn't playable that way! It almost seems like Paradox shot themselves in the foot by not including that feature. Can you play without AI using TCP/IP, or is the only multiplayer option splitting up one power?

Actually you can play HoI2 multiplayer with as many people as there are countries to play. I've never done this so I can't comment on how well it works, but I know plenty of people on the Paradox forum are playing MP. I don't like to tied down to a regular schedule, other than my monthly WiF game, so I'm not really interested in pursuing MP.