hopeless

[schury]

does some one conquer the world by using japan?in such condition as no time limitation,adv supply,i mean defeat the allied,not win by pp.if you do,raise your hand superstar!

[mavraamides]

I'm not sure that is supposed to be possible. The game is not designed to be a balanced war between two sides, Allied victory is innevitable given unlimited time. The point for the Axis is to survive longer than they did historically.

Having said that, I did play a game as Japan using a Russia first strategy where I had reached a point of equilibrium with the Allies by the end of the game. They had invaded France but could make no further progress and had reached the shore of Japan but would have had a great difficulty taking the island. Were I able to keep a supply line to asia, I could possibly have pushed the allies back given enough time. However, they had sunk my entire navy so Japan was isolated with all those precious resources sitting on the mainland.

[schury]

but i think games are games.no need to be limited in a historical frame.balance is the soul of a game.without it,i can't see any future[:(]

[Oleg Mastruko]

Oh man, forgive me for being confrontational, but I love when n00bs come, with whopping 12 posts to their name, they try to conquer the solar system with Japan in their first or second game of WAW, then when they get their nose bloodied come whining that the game is "unbalanced" and thus "has no future". [>:][>:][>:]

PS. Gordian, now I note you have 12 posts as well, but the above paragraph is not aimed at you [8D]

O.

[Grotius]

If you're eager to conquer the world as Japan, you could stack the deck in your favor: "No supplies required," and give yourself other advantages in the game setup screen.

But why? Isn't it more interesting to play a game that at least resembles history? Even within the constraints of GGWaW, wildly different outcomes are possible. In my current PBEM game, Germany has just conquered Iraq, Syria and Jordan.

[CommC]

Personally, I get greater satisfaction in just doing better than the historical side did, with the model being as close to historical as possible.

However, if you want to take over the world, you could create a new scenario that gives each side equal equipment, population, resouces, etc and go to town.

However, if you want to play that kind of game, I recommend Mechwarrior, Dawn of War or something like that.

[Dalwin]

ORIGINAL: Oleg Mastruko

Oh man, forgive me for being confrontational, but I love when n00bs come, with whopping 12 posts to their name, they try to conquer the solar system with Japan in their first or second game of WAW, then when they get their nose bloodied come whining that the game is "unbalanced" and thus "has no future". [>:][>:][>:]

PS. Gordian, now I note you have 12 posts as well, but the above paragraph is not aimed at you [8D]

O.

Speaking of being "confrontational", I'll take you on. The guy may be way off base in his comments about the game. This is a semi-realistic simulation of the war, even if a relatively simple one. That means that high fantasy such as Japan conquers the world is just plain out of the picture.

The very best Japan should hope for is snatching a good sized Pacific empire and the holding the U.S. war machine at bay long enough to get a favorable peace settlement.

HOWEVER, your noob comment is even more out of place than his comments about the game. Who cares how many posts someone has on this forum? I have less than 200. Am I a noob too then?

30+ years of serious wargaming would tend to say no. (The thousands of posts I have on other forums is completely irrelevant, since post count means absolutely nothing.)

[Oleg Mastruko]

Certainly I'm not judging people based on the number of posts, but his comments do belong to "n00b" cathegory, as you, indirectly, agree in your post. This game may not be perfect, but it underwent some serious playbalance testing during beta, I guarantee.

As for using the term "n00b", not being the native english speaker I am easily fascinated by newly invented lingos and languages. Really. Even gangsta rap speak fascinates me sometimes, but if I'd been born in England I'd probably despise it as murder of english language (which in fact it is).

I'll have no problem admitting I am n00b in many games I play... for some time... until I learn... then I r00le and, whats the word, r0XX0rz... pwn... [:D]

O.

[schury]

ORIGINAL: Oleg Mastruko

Oh man, forgive me for being confrontational, but I love when n00bs come, with whopping 12 posts to their name, they try to conquer the solar system with Japan in their first or second game of WAW, then when they get their nose bloodied come whining that the game is "unbalanced" and thus "has no future". [>:][>:][>:]

PS. Gordian, now I note you have 12 posts as well, but the above paragraph is not aimed at you [8D]

O.

i've played more than you've ever thought.do you wanna try a e-mail game?you pick japan,i pick wa.and i'll finish german in 8turns and kick your ass after that.

[schury]

ORIGINAL: Oleg Mastruko

Certainly I'm not judging people based on the number of posts, but his comments do belong to "n00b" cathegory, as you, indirectly, agree in your post. This game may not be perfect, but it underwent some serious playbalance testing during beta, I guarantee.

As for using the term "n00b", not being the native english speaker I am easily fascinated by newly invented lingos and languages. Really. Even gangsta rap speak fascinates me sometimes, but if I'd been born in England I'd probably despise it as murder of english language (which in fact it is).

I'll have no problem admitting I am n00b in many games I play... for some time... until I learn... then I r00le and, whats the word, r0XX0rz... pwn... [:D]

O.

i almost forget the noob thing...i am sure i played more games than you do.should i list them?talking like that means that you are nothing but a green hand.i have got a account in a forum posting more than 20000.ten times what you have done here.
do you think there's no way for axis to win the war?certainly they get little factory,resource,and seems have no chance to catch up with the allied.but what if i continue take their provice like london and give them back to let wa repair,then retake?that's the only way i think may win the war.but have you got better solutions?if not,you,continue a green hand[:'(][8D][:D]

[Paul Vebber]

Lets put the rulers away guys and worry about discussing HOW to win as the axis (Its quite possible up to "hard" level with no time limit and no automatic victory for the US to be under seige in late 46 or 47.

It takes some planning and at times some good luck, but rather than ad homnen attacks, demonstrations of how it can be done, please?

[schury]

ORIGINAL: Paul Vebber

Lets put the rulers away guys and worry about discussing HOW to win as the axis (Its quite possible up to "hard" level with no time limit and no automatic victory for the US to be under seige in late 46 or 47.

It takes some planning and at times some good luck, but rather than ad homnen attacks, demonstrations of how it can be done, please?

ok,if there isn't the noob guy,i won't talk like this.
yes,seige US but only possible when versus computer,and i don't think you can do that when you take japan without numerous save/load,maybe still impossible......
would you please create some balanced mods for those who want have an fair game?or the game will go without suspense......

[ratprince]

Schury;

Nothing about WWII was "fair" The game is designed to be a simulation of the actual war, with the potential for minor to major strategic and war altering effects. It was never intended (if I may be so bold) to be a fantasy game where it is conceivable or "easy" for Japan or Germany to be marching down Pennsylvania avenue by '46. Paul was merely explaining that it IS in fact possible, however only to extreme skill/luck situations.

Try enjoying the game for what it is; a historical representation of the war with "YOU" in charge. Not a "Turtledovian" alternate history where Japanese Zeros are launching cruise missles at the golden gate bridge.....

Later

Prof. Mike

[Glabro]

[quote]ORIGINAL: Oleg Mastruko

Oh man, forgive me for being confrontational, but I love when n00bs come, with whopping 12 posts to their name, they try to conquer the solar system with Japan in their first or second game of WAW, then when they get their nose bloodied come whining that the game is "unbalanced" and thus "has no future". [>:][>:][>:]

Well, at least I did the opposite and conquered the world with Japan with my first game (granted, normal with the same 200% transport as the AI, but that hardly was the deciding factor)

However, I would lay off a bit. You´re doing your image a disservice by attacking others.

[paullus99]

Hirohito returns.....[8|]

[carnifex]

but i think games are games.no need to be limited in a historical frame.balance is the soul of a game.without it,i can't see any future

Well here is some future for you then http://games.donohoedigital.com/war/index.html

War! Age of Imperialism might be exactly what you're looking for. There are absolutely no limitations as regarding a historical frame, and the game has great soul; it is perfectly balanced as every player has equal chances of winning the game. In essence, another verson of Risk, but it seems to be exactly what you're looking for.

Anyway, getting back to the inflexible and horribly limited World at War.

First thing, turn Automatic victory conditions off, then gang up on the Soviet Union and conquer it. You should be done with that in mid-1943. Build a bunch of bombers and transports and bomb the hell out of England and invade it. At this point you are massively outproducing the Allies and it's 1944. After England is done, your massive transport fleet lands a giant army on the US East Coast and that's the end of that. The war should be over early 1945. Japan doesn't really need to do much except take India, Australia and China. Ta da!

[5cats]

Hey guys, be nice to n00bies! Who else are you going to get to play China in PBEM games [:'(]
But seriously, if schurly can beat Germany in 8 turns as the WA, snort! lmao! NOT! At least not against a human player.
Otherwise post count is far less important than common sense & manners. Plus winning a lot, that's good too.

[schury]

ORIGINAL: mike mcmann

Schury;

Nothing about WWII was "fair" The game is designed to be a simulation of the actual war, with the potential for minor to major strategic and war altering effects. It was never intended (if I may be so bold) to be a fantasy game where it is conceivable or "easy" for Japan or Germany to be marching down Pennsylvania avenue by '46. Paul was merely explaining that it IS in fact possible, however only to extreme skill/luck situations.

Try enjoying the game for what it is; a historical representation of the war with "YOU" in charge. Not a "Turtledovian" alternate history where Japanese Zeros are launching cruise missles at the golden gate bridge.....

Later

Prof. Mike

i made it,just japan,took the hole world.adv supply,normal

[schury]

ORIGINAL: Paul Vebber

Lets put the rulers away guys and worry about discussing HOW to win as the axis (Its quite possible up to "hard" level with no time limit and no automatic victory for the US to be under seige in late 46 or 47.

It takes some planning and at times some good luck, but rather than ad homnen attacks, demonstrations of how it can be done, please?

i did take some planning,but didn't need to wait for late 46 or 47[:D][:D]
look at my pic,the allied are paralysed without any supply and only 7 factoried in ....1945!!!grad to achive that[:D][:D][:D]

[f15eagle]

Holy cow... is that on "normal" or harder difficulty?