You're all LIARS!

Ryan Crierie · Post by **Ryan Crierie** » Sat Sep 01, 2001 4:50 am

A LOOONG time ago, I asked if there was ever
going to be a "zoom" feature in SP: WAW for those
of us with 14 inch monitors.

You replied "there won't be another major version"

And now, I see you've released V 6.1!!!!!!!!!!!!

%%$!%$^%!^%^-ing liars!

Paul Vebber · Post by **Paul Vebber** » Sat Sep 01, 2001 5:16 am

Well version 7 is right behind it, and .. it won't have any more zoom levels either! <img src="eek.gif" border="0">

So we lied that we would stop supporting the game and decided to fix a few more bugs and do a couple things afterall, but we have told the truth and not added any zoom levels...

TO add a zoom level means creatinga new set of EVERY graphic in the game...we spent the effort on making a whole new class of graphics for the new Combat Leader game.

KG Erwin · Post by **KG Erwin** » Sat Sep 01, 2001 5:33 am

Ryan, the guys at Matrix are still releasing improvements to an already great FREE product, adding more features & bells & whistles, and you're COMPLAINING? I hope you were joking, and if you weren't, then lighten up, bro, and enjoy the effort these guys have put into this. I think you'd be better off looking at the great posts we've had about game play & tactics, offer some constructive criticisms & comments if you have any, and be a positive contributor to the best wargaming community on the web. Whiners are not generally regarded too highly here. Think about it.

rich12545 · Post by **rich12545** » Sat Sep 01, 2001 6:39 am

Hmmmmmm. Here's a guy with number 4167 talking about asking a question on the board a long time ago. Sounds fishy.

Ryan Crierie · Post by **Ryan Crierie** » Sat Sep 01, 2001 6:40 am

TO add a zoom level means creatinga new set of EVERY graphic in the game...

No you don't. Only if you want everything to
look ultra-sharp and crystal clear. Did anyone
ever try out the HIGHEST level of zoom in SimCity 2000 or Civilization 2?

What really POs me off is that you keep adding
more and more stuff, but keep NEGLECTING the
14" inch crowd. Not a lot of us have the money
needed for a new 17" monitor...

Which is why incidentially, I HATE Pop Top
Software for Railroad Tycoon 2.

They made it so that you NEEDED 1028x764
resolution to play it, effectively locking
out a large portion of the gaming public:
those with 14" monitors.

pops · Post by **pops** » Sat Sep 01, 2001 6:45 am

..I'm sorry...both of you must be very distressed...as a matter of fact we haven't heard from the other one yet and I'm beginning to fear the worst...

Paul Vebber · Post by **Paul Vebber** » Sat Sep 01, 2001 7:04 am

http://www.ubid.com/cat/get_cat_page.asp?CatID=1028&#3160

GO there - you can get a 17 in HP monitoir fo 54$ Maybe more maybe left - lots of auctions going on...I've seen them at places like Best Buy for 99$ 19 inch for 179$

Nobody should have to suffer with a 14 in monitor...

[ August 31, 2001: Message edited by: Paul Vebber ]</p>

pops · Post by **pops** » Sat Sep 01, 2001 7:15 am

I play on a 15" monitor from time to time and find that although small...it actually makes the graphics seem even sharper and smoother..

Supervisor · Post by **Supervisor** » Sat Sep 01, 2001 7:19 am

If thats all he has to complain about, I think Matrix must be doing something right.

Dean Robb · Post by **Dean Robb** » Sat Sep 01, 2001 10:30 am

You mean all this time I HAVEN'T been playing SP:WAW and RRT2 on this 15" monitor of mine?!?!?!?!

Man...wonder what I HAVE been playing, then...

Say....anyone got a VGA card around? I'll bet Ryan would appreciate getting out of the monochrome world....

bradmbrown · Post by **bradmbrown** » Sat Sep 01, 2001 11:23 am

I went to a little store on the corner and bought a 15" monitor for 50 bucks Canadian. about 35 bucks US.

Of course, ahem, I did too get a TNT2 video card, but it was a year back and they are a lot cheaper now. You don't have to get an AGP board either, the TNT2 and the voodoo 2 can be got still as PCI. Which is a joy for some of us stuck with older boxes.

It is a real drag having little money and there are many folks who have very little money and don't wish to explain that sort of personal thing here.

You could get a 15" for cheap somewhere and save a bit of money each payday until you can put in a better video card...

800 x 600 is game graphics for SPWAW anyway, so you could play it without a new card but WITH a brand new second hand 15" monitor.

Sorry

Mike Oshiki · Post by **Mike Oshiki** » Sat Sep 01, 2001 3:44 pm

Ryan,

Your eloquence in requesting support for your montitor situation, and in expressing your frustration speaks for itself. Clearly you've had a long time to stew over this, as the mail list was dissolved over a year ago, and you've apparently not expressed your concern recently.

There are so many lower quality games - ones that AREN'T free and that don't support older equipment - that for you to engage in profane name calling towards the creators of a FREE, high-quality product simply because there is not a zoom level to fit your personal situation seems, IMHO, to be the epitome of whining.

Sincerely,

Mike Oshiki

Truckeye · Post by **Truckeye** » Sat Sep 01, 2001 4:30 pm

i guess i dont know any better, but this 15" gateway deal has always been just fine with any game ive played. all the SPs, SAW, C&C, CC, starcraft, gettysburg etc etc

El Vito · Post by **El Vito** » Sat Sep 01, 2001 4:47 pm

My Soviet Juggernaut will come smash all your imperialist monitors en masse!

Steve Wilcox · Post by **Steve Wilcox** » Sat Sep 01, 2001 4:54 pm

I play v3.0 on a 14" monitor and it looks just dandy to me.

Ryan Crierie · Post by **Ryan Crierie** » Sat Sep 01, 2001 7:24 pm

Sorry if I got a little hissy at you guys.

It's just that I feel that you have missed out
on several of the ORIGINAL Steel Panther's features, such as a higher-zoom level, and
faster battles.

In SPO (Steel Panthers Original), you could
turn off virtually all the animations so you
could fight a 30 turn battle in about 30 minutes,
making the game accessible to those with not
a lot of time on their hands.

In SP WaW, they added that feature as
an unsupported command line feature,
and it doesn't work as well <img src="frown.gif" border="0">

Perhaps for WaW 6.2 or 6.3, you could finally
mitgrate that command line feature to the
in-game option screen and expand it more?

The zoom level feature was quite useful for
those of us on 14" inch montitors, allowing us to see every tank/infantryman in glorious detail...

[yes, I really miss seeing close ups of my Panthers.

]

[ September 01, 2001: Message edited by: Ryan Crierie ]</p>

David Heath · Post by **David Heath** » Sat Sep 01, 2001 7:29 pm

Hi Ryan

We never said it was a perfect game ( it will never be that ) we said it was the best Steel Panthers available.

Wait for Combat Leader and lets see what we do there.

[ September 02, 2001: Message edited by: David Heath ]</p>

Supervisor · Post by **Supervisor** » Sat Sep 01, 2001 7:33 pm

Ryan: Forget 6.2 and 6.3 any day now were going to 7.x keep your eyes open but unfortunately your request wasn't addressed in this upcoming update.

RockinHarry · Post by **RockinHarry** » Sat Sep 01, 2001 10:46 pm

Originally posted by Paul Vebber:

TO add a zoom level means creatinga new set of EVERY graphic in the game...we spent the effort on making a whole new class of graphics for the new Combat Leader game.

Way to go! <img src="wink.gif" border="0">

I also run a 14" monitor at home and even play with icon size3 (the smallest) and it works just fine for me.

________
Harry

Jasper · Post by **Jasper** » Sat Sep 01, 2001 11:00 pm

All along I though we game players had among the best or at least the most updated computer in the world. Are u sure u cant afford a 17 inch monitor.....You pay the transport bill, I can send my old one to u..I am using a 19 inch.

A game created cannot make everybody content. If you are angry only on the graphic, I think we here had more...but we should be content with it. There arent any more good hex game around this few days....Name me a few good hex turn base game still around and constantly update or upgrade the game..... Only one phrase for you "You are one ungrateful XXX of a XXXXX".
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