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June 4, 2005
The German experienced difficulties transferring from v016 to v033 on ONE computer. Use of an 394K-RAM 800mhz sort of saved the day...but saves are time to go eat while it chugs along doing the save.

The game :
Spr 40 : G started off doing the usual thing. Very light losses. Yugoslavia was left to do in Su 40. Greece fell. Due to trade rules...this may not have been necessary and actually detrimental. The Greece forces could defend against Brits too.
Su 40 : G leaves Spain alone and captures Yugoslavia. The Brits start moving across N Africa from Cairo. The Central MED appears to be a BRITISH lake. G Bombers are occupied destroying Brit forces in Norwegian Sea and Bay of Biscay. Later, rumour has it that Brits sent resources to Russia via the northern route. Russia in turn provides supply to China to repair the damaged factories achieved by Japan.
Fa 40 : Brits continue moving across North Africa.
W 41 : G exchanges 2 damaged BB for 3 damaged Brit BB in Central Med. Some 7 transports now exist in Central Med. Tripoli has fallen to Brits. Additional troops are assigned to S and N Italy. The Italian populace are concerned. Japan reports that China factories are limited to ONE production unit per 3 months. Russian resources for the hungry masses of China has been a godsend to the Chinese peoples.

Some exchanges between Hitler and Stalin made the airwaves. Stalin proposed sending his mighty Black Sea fleet to discourage the Brits from North African GENOCIDE of Italian peoples in exchange for 35 supply from Germany. The German reply was that men of honour would act without larceny to put a stop to GENOCIDE. Stalin is sputtering about G forces on his border when they should be lounging in N Africa. Since the Brits have continued unhindered...not much of real substance has happened in this flurry of words. Everyone seems unhappy. Well, not everyone. The Japs sound jubilent.

I- the Germans...am awaiting my opportunity to do spr 41. Hopefully, nothing extra-ordinary happened in Italy. Should this be the case, the increasing losses of Brit transports should start to have impact. This would end the initial excitement of the Brits to end the war early. The capture of N Africa by Spr 41 will be recognized for the phrryic victory it is.

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Thursday June 9 2005...SU41 game turn :
Russian TOAST recipe...

Have 3 TAC in Bulgaria.
Have min of 2(but 3 is nice) H Bmb in Rumania.

[:D]Note how they are nicely placed to destroy Allied shipping in the Central Med
and Eastern Med.[:D]

oh yeah...back to the Rusky toast.

On turn one of the invasion of Russia...
retain one H bmb in Rumania for next op.
bomb the xxxx of Russian troops in the Caucasus.
Land the Parachute of Rumania...into Caucasus.[;)]
Instant destroyed 6 Russian resouce centers...repair cost 60 supply!
A third bomber to at least damage the Russian destroyer in Sevastopol is nice.
it allows one to put the Rumanian transport to sea...so as to move the G Parachute
back home for the grand celebration....not to mention next weeks miracle.[8D]

In other news...the allied fleets and troops took the island of Sicily against one measly G MIL. A tank has come to visit S Italy and another is visiting W France where some 15 Allied transport are gathered in the sea of Biscay.[>:]

It appears that the Allies have NOT been building up resource points for future production needs. Since they have failed to destroy G momentum...it is obvious that they are MUCH behind the "8" ball that everyone knows about. What, you say the capture of Sicily and all of North Africa by Su41 is a great accomplishment for the Allies? ok, but what do they do for an encore?[:-]

[X(][X(][X(]
The Japs co-ordinated their actions. It is expected that they will capture some 3 R resource centers BEFORE the Russians see the results of the initial attack. I would really really feel dejected to be a Russian foot soldier with a pitch fork about now.

[:o]Next game should be starting by the weekend.[:o]
< i do not want to be Russian >
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End of SU41 :
Well, the Japs had their fun capturing the 3 predicted Russian eastern zones in SU41.
The Ruskies hunkered down in Khartov[would you believe 7 FLAK units], the province east of Karelia, and just W of the Japanese advance. Ruskies did manage to damage the G transport in the Black Sea. It should be back for Spr42. The Allies vacated Bay of Biscay and retreated to the Irish Sea...currently[:(] beyond my bombers.

Pictures of the game are attached herein. Unfortunately, the Jap - Russia situation is considered picture 2 and cannot be embedded in same post. Please excuse the lack of unit displays. We dont want to make the allies have any heart attacks about what is coming toward them. [:'(]


FA 41 is now officially started.

Continued attacks on Brit Central Med shipping continues. I guess they ran out of supply before they could run away.[:D]
Nevertheless, G Bombing helped the few to limp to shores of Southern Italy where they were grateful to join POW camps. [:o] A ftr crew turned up...who had been on transports. They reported that the sea command was hearing orders that the Brit navy was heading to port throughout the world...with the exception of the Central MED. They really felt like they were simply left in place for target practice. [:-][:-] I suppose the Ruskies were pleased. Allied solidarity at its best!

Attacks on Russia were minimal...which is likely a mistake on the G part as this is when the Ruskies are weakest. One wonders where the G supply is being spent


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ORIGINAL: MikeB

The Ruskies hunkered down in Khartov[would you believe 7 FLAK units], the province east of Karelia, and just W of the Japanese advance. Ruskies did manage to damage the G transport in the Black Sea. It should be back for Spr42. The Allies vacated Bay of Biscay and retreated to the Irish Sea...currently[:(] beyond my bombers.

I thought you would like the Flak units down south. The quandary I suppose was where to put your ACs if you wanted to hit the Med based allies. Can't have your cake and eat it too!

Japan on the other hand is a major pain in the rs. They have smashed the Chinese and are now lining up to give to teh Russians - hopefully 3 tanks can make a difference???
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Thankyou Wobbly for your addition to this thread. Ben/Wayne...should we expect to hear from you too?

The 4 star Wobbly is doing a good job with the Ruskies is my opinion.
He quickly took advantage of my unsupplied tank and art in Kursk with but 2 inf + 1 ART.
My tank and art managed to DAMAGE only ONE R Inf. Both G troopers were dismembered. Discouragement abounds in the German ranks! [:@][:(][:@]
Nevertheless, the G forces did manage to destroy the R production infrastructure of this region prior to their demise.[:'(]

Bombing destruction of Russian production infrastructure continues. Stalingrad took it on the chin this turn.[:'(] The rebuilt rail in Karelia was also reduced again due to his invitation by leaving it empty of Ruskies.[:o] His 15 or so units of the R Army in Karelia moved off toward Moscow...while leaving 7 inf at Arch Angel. The ONE G inf in Leningrad and Finland were honoured with medals for having scared the Russians away.[&o]

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The allied forces continue to hide out in the Irish Sea. Nary a transport to be found...by the far ranging G Subs. This MUST be hurting his production, research and build efforts.
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[:D][:D]
It is surmized that the allies spent their bullet(ONE) in North Africa and now have NO supplies or ships to send supplies to their Russian subordinates.[:D][:D] Captured Russian soldiers are often found with little but pitch forks in their hands or in the rough barrack sod tents of the Steppe.

[>:]
More tanks are now on the march. Improved armour is expected to have lasting effect.
[X(][X(]Oh, did i mention Malta is now German?[X(][X(] Sicily is next up on the priority of target lists for my favourite bombers. Unfortunately, the Malta carrier and one DD were only damaged by bombers. The one remaining DD disappeared off toward England upon the capture of Malta.[&:] The waiting Italian BB's in the central MED were highly disappointed.[:(] There were no rounds of good cheer after a glorious shooting exercise. [:@]



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Moving along...SU42 - i believe the Germans have completed their summer turn.
It was noted that the allies had been busy ferrying some 93 supplies to Russia. As these landed in Archangel where 7 R defenders were resting AND Archangel is ROUGH...it was decided that attacking them with 1 G inf from Karelia was a bit pre-mature. The 4 tanks NW of Moscow had yugoslav or some such in the route of march and could not reach the place in appropriate time.

The G bombers moved up closer to the front line in anticipation of break through movement soon to come. Additional tanks have arrived at the front and the troopees are getting excited for action.

As for those transports that negotiated the frigid north, they are now known as passing targets of interest. Admittedly they gave off better fireworks than the towed target practise drones in the Baltic. G research continues and the NEW G subs are expected to be floating about soon.

As for Sicily...well, another day perhaps. They will soon or late cower in their bunkers and come out with "hands up"!

The R partisans have been more effective than expected. This has led to serious study in the G halls of war. It has been decided to fly drop boxes of chocolate bars for the needy souls...so as to ease communications .

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G Spring 43 Movement :
The Irish were so annoyed they sent emissaries to London to DEMAND compensation. The sight of all those bloodied seamen on their shorelines...not to mention the health hazards.[:-] Reportedly, the odd degraddled dewitted creatures talked about war off Germany and France. The BOOM BOOM sound of the weaponry and their own[:(] munitions blowing up beside them was their only REPEATED and REPEATED phrase. Whether they can become sane again is a question for British hospitals...NOT Irish![:@] A flotilla of B hospital ships need to come from Africa/SE Asia to escort -oh, i mean transport- the buggers home.

Such is the aftermath of the G 43 sea attacks.
German forces await more targets of opportunity.[:'(]
Meanwhile, the recent scare from Denmark appears to have abatted. The populace are back to their normal life. The recent conscription has been cancelled.[>:]

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SU 43 German Turn
Perhaps a game problem with V033.
With no transports around...the British Denmark Tanks that were damaged appeared to find their way home to a factory for repair. The germans find this MOST UNFAIR.

Otherwise, another passol load of British Seamen on their way to Davy Jones Locker. This was from the Scottish sea. The German kriegsmarine is becoming the toast of Hitler in his addresses to the people.

In other news from the East, the Russians continue to press. press themselves into dangerous deadly situations that is. One wonders about the fatigue level of German tanks and gas supplies.

Previously not mentioned is the slow movement into Africa, complete capture of Persia and readiness to invade W Kaskastan or points there of. The underbelly of Russia is exposed and ripe for the taking. German research far surpasses the Russian pitch fork!

Negotiators are enroute to visit their colleagues in Tokyo to arrange agreement on the apportionment of India.

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Russian underbelly ripe for the taking - Axis High command seem to be smoking too much of the good stuff it appears. With 1 Division in Persia they are about as scary as lion with no teeth - meoow.

I will admit that the Germans may consider their bang sticks as better than our titanium pitchforks but it appears the pitchforks are squewering plenty of the fascist soldier ranks. It was also quite gratifying to shove a few tynes into the war making machinery of Kiev - 3 factories trashed. If only we can figure out a way to get the pitchforks through the tough hides of their tanks.... All 20 of them!

Thankfully the allies have decided that Denmark will be free of the Nazi yoke, we laud their efforts to unsaddle the mechanical horses the enemy appears to favour!
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The only way to answer such noise in the international press is to demonstrate by ACTUAL TRUE battle reports.

I did not actually DO the battle in the game...due to lack of defensive supply once i took W Kazakhstan. It is hoped that the normal R command structure forgot to assign enough supplies for their attack in the intervening turn. The combat showed my defence at 30 for the G infantry. Granted, it is likely the poor doomed R soldier with his pitchfork had no defensive supplies for this battle. His meagre 15 defence value led to his demise. Not even a cadre remains is what you will see.

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THE picture ! ...i hope.
I am still somewhat new to this picture attachment type stuff.

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Ahh Mike Mike Mike.

I saw the merry settler supply truck situation through the sands of Persia and hoped you would try into Kahzahkstan. I will admit to forgetting the supplies to my defenders though (um woops). So fair play - I have been unhorsed.
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Fall 43....[&o][&o][&o] FANTASTIC Turn for the Germans !!! [&o][&o][&o]
It started off with 4 ftrs attacking the fleets in Skaggerik.
[X(][X(][X(]Did i mention the Brit navy finally took the initiative to evacuate the Denmark allied beach-head? [X(][X(][X(]
At any rate...besides mercilessly destroying the 2 haphazard cannon fodder brit ftrs...the 3 remaining G ftrs each took out a Brit transport - albeit only damaging them.[:o]

[:D][:D][:D][:D][:D]
Feeling the rush, the tac and h bombers then made their appearance.
[:)]Behold my eyes![:)]
...a G battleship was sent to verify the news.
[:'(][:'(]A brit battleship was damaged! [:'(][:'(]
The remaining G battleship and 2 DD were kept in port. No point pursuing the left over remains of Brit shipping in the North Sea. Besides, the G airforce from elsewhere had also visited them. [:o]

[&:]Aah...those Ruskies.[&:]
Even when you show them the error of their ways.[:-]
The W Kazakhstan R inf was promptly destroyed due to lack of defensive supplies.[:-] It is almost as if he invited me to visit.
The lone G infantry is now comtemplating does he move West, North or East for his free move. Well, to the west is a lone R inf with a lone tac bomber...which might be worthy of attention.[8|]

[:D][:D][:D][:D][:D]
This must have started the rot throughout S Russia. The loss of all RAIL into Kharkov must have further dampened the spirits...er pocketbook of the R General Valutin. [:'(]Who says Bribery is not part of War![:'(]
For the surprising low cost of 1 damaged G tank, the Ruskies lost hordes of men in Kharkov.

[&:][&:]
The disappearance of R forces was a great concern to G forces as the remains could simply NOT be found. 2 ftrs eagerly awaited news of the destroyed AA to mount their attacks. It was then discovered that Bribery must have trickled down to the R troops.[>:]

[8D]They had moved FORWARD to Odessa.[8D]
This caused a GREAT worry in Berlin.
[&:]Rumania with scant forces was now a lush target. The removal of the Denmark encampment required the high command to rush tanks with high priority trains to Rumania.
[:o]Reason returned only when the staff officers confirmed that Odessa had NO route via which R supply can even remotely reach them. Negotiators have learned that the R commanders are busy discussing prison camp priorities and priviledges of rank.[;)]

[X(][X(]This surprising development will require extensive G supply to manage in a humane way.[X(][X(]

[8D]
Meanwhile, the fortitude of my Jap colleague is holding up well. He is well pleased with the prospect of R tanks on the now R-Jap border returning to what is now SW Russia. His troops had squeezed a survival mode BANZAI against the R hordes attacking last season.
[8|]

[:o]
This should allow ample movement against those allied fleets approaching Japan. My example of destroying allied transports is intriguing to him. We expect to hear more about such actions in the Pacific over the coming months.[:D][:D]
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That was a hellish turn. In the air, on the land, in the sea, we are bested by better men in better machines.

It is with a heavy heart that the Russian Generals report the stupid retreat TOWARDS the germans and the consquential pocket the make of themselves. With nothing in range to break the deadlock - and with the complete lack of capability of the Russian forces versus the never ending hoards of tanks (he now has 23!!!!!!!!!!!!) we despair as to what we can do?

Stalin, of course, welcomes the bad news from his Generals with the only possible answer - execution.
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Interesting AAR guys, very educational as well [;)]
Ah, Russian toast recipe...guess I have to read these pages carefully in order to counter your vile invasion of Russia in 40 Al!

Must be good to write an AAR that doesn't last 5 years......
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From Wobbly...by Mike B...for Su44
Wobbly is the Russian.

I was somewhat concerned about my attack on Leningrad appearing to fall apart. There were 3 tanks there too! I outright lost 2 ART for a number of cheap R MIL. ok, a couple other Ruskies went to the good place too.

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The reply from Wobbly...sounds ominous.
Things static on the Russian Front. Russian airpower at last finds the
sighting reticules on the weapons: the German bomber fleets hammering
Russian industry are despatched on the ground.

In Persia the Russian forces actually move forward!! Will the Germanic
Indian escapaid come unstuck?

THe Chinese get down to some more serious breeding

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Mike B...comment :
I thought I left at least one ftr on defence in the space with the G Bombers. Wonder what happened to it...or do i dare ask.

The movement toward India was only meant as a bluff to entice some nice juicy Allied transports into the sights of my Italian subs. The capture of India was always deemed a halucination.

The sneaky Germans do have a trap set up for the host of allied troops headed my way. Hope it works! The attack on Leningrad was a bit of a bummer! especially after LAST turn's true depiction of the power of German arms.

Well, the survival of the Reich depends on the foolhardy actions of the fat cigar man. Spys report that his English factories are backed up repairing the recent foray into Denmark. Denmark has been re-acquired this turn by German forces. Fortress Europe with 3ftr, 2-3 AA, 3tanks and the odd inf unit appears well fortified. Wonder what he will try next? My airforce has been languishing for targets lately.

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G Summer 44 :
Everything remains in-tact. Well, W France was hit by some 15 Brit H Bmbrs! More ominous was the observation that a G Tank took a damage point. This means it CAN be hit! ouch. It had 9 defence!

Yes, the G H Bmbrs in Kharkov were mercilessly shot down on the runway. How ignominous. The lone ftr failed to cope with the 4 or was it 5 R attack planes. Two remaining H bmbrs continued to ensure that Moscow remains without rail into it. Well, ok, the Minsk Rail line is wholly repaired.

Allied transports continue to hide from G subs. A poor radio reception message from the S Atlantic sounded like a G Sub failed to find a lone Brit transport. This sounds discouraging.

The Pacific is also dearth of Allied shipping. He must be wary of my numerous Italian subs. After all, the Italians cannot build much other than subs for the greater glory of Axis powers. What would you do with their manpower?

Nevertheless, the horizon looks bleak. The march of Axis togetherness even took a beating. A lone ftr from central Africa or was that the tac from India took out the Axis transport in the Persian gulf.

I looked up the end of campaign rules. Fall 46...when it is now Su44. OH! Why could it not be SU45 NOW! Hopefully, the Allies are wondering if Russia will have the wherewithal to supply and move troops to Berlin to be a factor in the closing turns of the game.

Something like 12 G Ftrs on the map...and i still don't feel i have enough!

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G game-map ...start of SU44.
Ok, so it fails to show the G influence down to South Africa or the Eastern border wherein N India is learning to speak properly - as Germans do. I also hesitate to show where all the G Tanks and H Fleets are located...though i suspect my opponent's air units have it fairly well mapped out. Why make it extra easy for him?

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[:@][:@]HrmmF...
6 lackey Brit H Bmbrs with air-air attk3, def3 plus 1 ftr air-air attk 7, def 5
outright KILL 2 G ftr with air-air attk7, def 7.[:@][:@]
Not to mention the loss of W France...and the humongous visitation of some 26 brit drunkerds.

Ah well, word is good from the R front, but i shouldnt give away the mystery to our opponent's spies. I have been warned they very much like this service. They never provide any of their own commentary either.

I suppose they may be embarrassed about having difficulty maintaining the measly # of only 39 transports on the map at a time.

Russia and Japan exchanged N Siberia<i think> last turn. While only damaged, the Jap inf appeared to be destroyed in their retreat. Again, hardly seems sporting.

Did i mention the deep sleep of Gibraltrar? Another time, another story perhaps.
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Uncle Joe feels heckled by the words of propaganda minister: Goebels.

truthfuly we haven't written much in the AAR, but then what have we achieved? the tag team of german and japanese aggression on the peace loving Russian folk has meant we have little resources to put aside for increasing our sickles from beaten iron to the new fangled steel versions. Even these, we hate to admit, are likely to have trouble staving off 25 German 10-9 tanks....

Thankfully our Western allies have managed to weather the storm of super subs and a never ending luftwaffe to take Western France. Their intervention has meant the Germans have not been able to unleash these mighty metal monsters at as like they might have wished.

So in Western Russia it is consolidation - try to update some of our circa 1941 equipment and then start tentatively taking back the land stolen by the german; if only to stop his incessant raiding of the industrial complex.

In the east we are putting pressure on the Russian holdings the Japs now have. They are completely on top of the allies - with an attack against Hawaii something our spies tell us is immenent. Russian tanks are adequate against the Japanese foot soldier, so maybe there is room to move here. The big problem with this is the Western allies are not defending or attacking in the Pacific in any strength so the whole might of the Japanese empire could turn around and start squashing our bid for freedom!

All in all, the months of neglect, lack of supplies and research are now coming home to roost. The Russians may be able to move forward to put pressure on the axis but it is completely at their sufferance.
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