US 50 cals that do no damage, but SU 50 cals will blow a plane apart, fly a late model Spit, the 20mms will blow up 190s and 109s like cheesetoast, run out of 20mm ? no hassle it still has enough 50 cal ammmo to take down a 190 or 2
Can a US plane Loop, no, unless it had been given to the SU to fly, then it loops like a bat (that is, if a bat does loops)
(took a F4u out, in a dive doing 440 MPH, pull the nose up into a loop, it stalled out before it could complete it, took out a P-40 B, from level flight with a Zero on it's tail, pulled into a loop and got in behind the chaseing Zero !!!!!!)
that got me thinking, so went in and made a mission, 1 P-40 B vs 4 Hawk 75s, it ate them up like hungry cat chaseing a 3 legged Mouse
to be honest, a 109 F did too, just had to work a little HARDer
was shocked, the oops, never mind
of course, the master of all was the Oscar, it made them look like they was standing still, but it ran out of ammo after shooting 2 down
oh well, tounge in cheek and all, but AHHHHHH
oh, this is not a kill




