Upgrades

jhdeerslayer · Post by **jhdeerslayer** » Mon Aug 22, 2005 6:41 pm

In PBEM's I have going I notice that I have more Upgrade chosen/listed than I have points available. e.g. Upgrades point may say 6.09 but I have eight in the "list" already.

Does this mean I already have all eight or does this mean the last two on the list are already picked for me when the Upgrade points reach 7 and 8?

Do upgrades work in PBEM?

ian77 · Post by **ian77** » Mon Aug 22, 2005 6:46 pm

Is this when the scenario starts?

If so, all these upgrades are active, and you will have to develope your barracks/culture to 9 or more to get another upgrade.

I do not think upgrades work in PBEM.

Ian

jhdeerslayer · Post by **jhdeerslayer** » Mon Aug 22, 2005 7:34 pm

Yes, from the start.

I hope you're wrong about PBEM as that is frightening!

ian77 · Post by **ian77** » Mon Aug 22, 2005 9:36 pm

So do I!

But it does not look too hopeful at the moment..................[8|]

Ian

ericbabe · Post by **ericbabe** » Mon Aug 22, 2005 10:43 pm

This is the first I'd heard that upgrades weren't being prompted in PBEM... I'll look into this for the next patch.

Ron · Post by **Ron** » Mon Aug 22, 2005 11:30 pm

Yes I can confirm in pbem you are simply given the upgrade and aren't allowed to choose. Hope it gets fixed.

Ron

ian77 · Post by **ian77** » Mon Aug 22, 2005 11:51 pm

I am not even being given upgrades, over two years played, military at 7+ and number of upgrades still stuck on the starting 4[8|]

Ian

jhdeerslayer · Post by **jhdeerslayer** » Tue Aug 23, 2005 1:12 am

Guess there's no reason to build Barracks and Culture in PBEM except for their other benefits. [&:]

Ralegh · Post by **Ralegh** » Tue Aug 23, 2005 3:40 am

In a currrent PBEM, Spain let me (France) know that at the end of his turn he received the prompts for France's upgrade and for France "becoming an empire". So it is happening out of turn. I assume that if you have an AI before your turn, it might be clicking things for you!

dpstafford · Post by **dpstafford** » Tue Aug 23, 2005 3:44 am

ORIGINAL: Ralegh
In a currrent PBEM, Spain let me (France) know that at the end of his turn he received the prompts for France's upgrade and for France "becoming an empire". So it is happening out of turn. I assume that if you have an AI before your turn, it might be clicking things for you!

This is what is happening in my game. The wrong player is getting the upgrade prompt.

ian77 · Post by **ian77** » Tue Aug 23, 2005 11:47 am

ORIGINAL: Ralegh

In a currrent PBEM, Spain let me (France) know that at the end of his turn he received the prompts for France's upgrade and for France "becoming an empire". So it is happening out of turn. I assume that if you have an AI before your turn, it might be clicking things for you!

But is anyone actually getting any upgrades? Has anyone become an empire? I have not seen it happen yet, admittedly the furthest we have progressed is only, two years 7 months in any of the games that I am taking part in, but I would have expected at least one upgrade or empire to have been implemented by now, certainly several of the nations have empire scores over 20, but no one has declared empire status yet....

Ian

Ralegh · Post by **Ralegh** » Wed Aug 24, 2005 2:14 am

Yes. I (France) became an empire in like turn 5 (after the Spanish player pressed Yes), and had a chance at an upgrade but the Spanish player pressed cancel!

jhdeerslayer · Post by **jhdeerslayer** » Wed Aug 24, 2005 7:46 pm

Sure hope we can get this one fixed in the immediate next patch!

YohanTM2 · Post by **YohanTM2** » Sun Aug 28, 2005 11:31 am

In the 4 player game we are playing I am Russia and have picked 2 upgrades and Empire status for France so it is working but out of turn for him. As Russia I now should have two more upgrades but have received NONE.

This is very frustrating as building my infrastructure and army is a key part of my early wars strategy.

Eric???

ian77 · Post by **ian77** » Mon Aug 29, 2005 3:23 pm

In two PBEM we are in years two and three, still no upgrades to any nation... these are 3 and 4 human player games.

ericbabe · Post by **ericbabe** » Mon Aug 29, 2005 3:40 pm

We're currently testing moving the upgrade/empire choice to the end of a player's turn -- in that small bit of time after he hits the end-turn button and before his turn actually ends. Hopefully this will resolve any PBEM issues with these features.

Ron · Post by **Ron** » Mon Aug 29, 2005 10:51 pm

How about Protectorate pop-ups in pbem? When a minor asks a player controlled nation to become a protectorate when does that occur?

Ron

Ralegh · Post by **Ralegh** » Tue Aug 30, 2005 3:37 am

If the minor has an enemy, it depends on your "aggressiveness" setting in SET POLICY with regard to that nation (ie the enemy). [But note my earlier post about the columns being a bit wonky at the moment.]

If the minor does not have any enemies, you automatically accept.

Ron · Post by **Ron** » Wed Aug 31, 2005 12:00 am

Thanks Ralegh.

I think the whole Upgrade thing in pbem now is broken. I am in one game as Spain and France is getting prompted for Upgrades at the end of my turn but noone else. In another as France I seem to be getting my Upgrades choosen by the last human player (Russia) but again noone else is getting theirs or even prompted it seems. I hope this important feature is fixed in the next patch.

Ron

bluemonday · Post by **bluemonday** » Wed Aug 31, 2005 12:38 am

ORIGINAL: ericbabe
This is the first I'd heard that upgrades weren't being prompted in PBEM... I'll look into this for the next patch.

Isn't this the same bug that was reported almost two months ago?

http://www.matrixgames.com/default.asp? ... m%3D893867

While testing the PBEM game i stubled upon this bug:
After ending the turn for SPAIN,
i get to choose the National upgrade for FRANCE,
and to choose if FRANCE want to become an empire...
i have the save file if you want

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