German Invasion of Canada

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toddtreadway
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German Invasion of Canada

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I find it odd that if Canada or any other non-frozen American country is invaded by Germany that the U.S. will not become unfrozen or at least have its production multiplier increased.

Shouldn't there be some ramification like this if Germany is brash enough to land on North or South America?
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I concur. I actually did debate the very same thing with a couple of opponents lately - and all seem to agree sofar.
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RE: German Invasion of Canada

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It definately would make sense. I just did that very same thing against worr. He left Scottland with its stock defenses IIRC and I took it on turn 2. London followed on turn 3 and after that I said what the hell lets go destoy all the resources in Canada. I marched a single militia clear across Canada and the US didn't even bat an eyelash. That is totally unrealistic. After playing that game agianst worr I said to myself that if 2by3 doesn't fix this I will give it a try. I fully support the unfreezing of the US to deter the Germans from doing this.
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RE: German Invasion of Canada

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I took at look at the data files - and found what could be a solution that does not require coding.

In the frozen.txt file I added
// East Canada will unfreeze the US
FROZEN,318,FR_Player owns,PLAYER_UN,319 // This line will unfreeze NE USA

This line will unfreeze the NE USA territory (319) if Eastern Canada (318) is not controlled by the WA. Another line would be needed for every other territory that needs unfreezing (debateable if the Pacific would unfreeze or just the Atlantic + North and South American parts of the US).

The only problem with this approach is that if Russia or China should take Eastern Canada then that would unfreeze the USA too. Thats not really likely though so I consider that loophole acceptable.

I will add the text for the full change needed to the frozen.txt file in a bit - if others could then check the change for any problems it would be splendid.
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RE: German Invasion of Canada

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Here you go - adding the following to the frozen.txt file should make the US unfreeze if Canada is taken by anyone else (including Russia or China - but I consider that an acceptable loop hole).

I will suggest adding this to the next official patch - so please do post if you see any problems.

// East Canada (319) will unfreeze the US
FROZEN,170,FR_Player owns,PLAYER_UN,319
FROZEN,171,FR_Player owns,PLAYER_UN,319
FROZEN,172,FR_Player owns,PLAYER_UN,319
FROZEN,174,FR_Player owns,PLAYER_UN,319
FROZEN,175,FR_Player owns,PLAYER_UN,319
FROZEN,190,FR_Player owns,PLAYER_UN,319
FROZEN,219,FR_Player owns,PLAYER_UN,319
FROZEN,222,FR_Player owns,PLAYER_UN,319
FROZEN,232,FR_Player owns,PLAYER_UN,319
FROZEN,233,FR_Player owns,PLAYER_UN,319
FROZEN,253,FR_Player owns,PLAYER_UN,319
FROZEN,260,FR_Player owns,PLAYER_UN,319
FROZEN,266,FR_Player owns,PLAYER_UN,319
FROZEN,268,FR_Player owns,PLAYER_UN,319
FROZEN,277,FR_Player owns,PLAYER_UN,319
FROZEN,279,FR_Player owns,PLAYER_UN,319
FROZEN,339,FR_Player owns,PLAYER_UN,319
FROZEN,340,FR_Player owns,PLAYER_UN,319
FROZEN,176,FR_Player owns,PLAYER_UN,319
FROZEN,185,FR_Player owns,PLAYER_UN,319
FROZEN,186,FR_Player owns,PLAYER_UN,319

FROZEN,284,FR_Player owns,PLAYER_UN,319
FROZEN,285,FR_Player owns,PLAYER_UN,319
FROZEN,287,FR_Player owns,PLAYER_UN,319
FROZEN,288,FR_Player owns,PLAYER_UN,319
FROZEN,289,FR_Player owns,PLAYER_UN,319
FROZEN,290,FR_Player owns,PLAYER_UN,319
FROZEN,293,FR_Player owns,PLAYER_UN,319
FROZEN,294,FR_Player owns,PLAYER_UN,319
FROZEN,295,FR_Player owns,PLAYER_UN,319
FROZEN,296,FR_Player owns,PLAYER_UN,319

FROZEN,298,FR_Player owns,PLAYER_UN,319
FROZEN,300,FR_Player owns,PLAYER_UN,319
FROZEN,311,FR_Player owns,PLAYER_UN,319
FROZEN,312,FR_Player owns,PLAYER_UN,319
FROZEN,313,FR_Player owns,PLAYER_UN,319
FROZEN,314,FR_Player owns,PLAYER_UN,319
FROZEN,316,FR_Player owns,PLAYER_UN,319
FROZEN,317,FR_Player owns,PLAYER_UN,319
FROZEN,318,FR_Player owns,PLAYER_UN,319
FROZEN,320,FR_Player owns,PLAYER_UN,319
FROZEN,323,FR_Player owns,PLAYER_UN,319
FROZEN,325,FR_Player owns,PLAYER_UN,319
FROZEN,332,FR_Player owns,PLAYER_UN,319
FROZEN,346,FR_Player owns,PLAYER_UN,319
FROZEN,352,FR_Player owns,PLAYER_UN,319
toddtreadway
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RE: German Invasion of Canada

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Thanks Jan!
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RE: German Invasion of Canada

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You are welcome.
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