8th AAF FC Airfields in BTR

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8th AAF FC Airfields in BTR

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356th FG should be stationed at Martlesham Heath AF, if im not wrong, the whole airfield is missing in the game.

Also, 353rd FG were stationed at Metfield and 55th FG at Nuthampstead early in the War, both airfields belong to Bomber Command in the game.
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Hi Augenstein,
Also, 353rd FG were stationed at Metfield and 55th FG at Nuthampstead early in the War, both airfields belong to Bomber Command in the game.

It may be that these issues can be looked at now the game is being modified. However, seeing how there are issues ( bugs ) around certain airfield change-overs, then it may just be simpler to let sleeping dogs lie. Wouldn't want to loose FG because you forgot to move them. [:(]
356th FG should be stationed at Martlesham Heath AF, if im not wrong, the whole airfield is missing in the game.

I recommended several airfield moves to JC long ago, would have been blushing had I had missed that one. No, it's there, but in 11 Group Fighter Command ( in the original itteration ).

Actually, something should be done about this one. It's on the East coast so essential for the US escort fighters, being able to extend their legs into the Reich.

Good spotting.

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You know, the GB airfields for the 8th FC has always bugged me

at a time when everything was about range, why were so many of them inland, you would think all of them would of been based on the coast or just inside of the coast

funny, something a Game player would never do, but the Generals in real life, had no trouble with ?

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Hi HS,

some were amended in one of the updates after sent stuff into JC. Several of the original fields with 8th FC starting on them were moved eastwards ( Boxtead, Raydon ? ).

Shyed away from doing the bomber fields. Too many and didn't really see the point.

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Hi OB
sorry, may of misunderstood what I meant, not game wise, but where they were based in real life

I mean how from the coast is Peterborough ?

Cambridge is not as bad, but still

there are a lot of bomber bases around Ipswich which you would they would of changed ??

I am sure it is no more then 5 minutes or so from those fields to the coast, but with all the tricks and what not they did, to gain an extra 5-10 minutes over the battle area, seems strange to base them that far inland
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In Hubert Zemke's biography he mentions that the 56th FG was operating from a filed with grass runways. The unit was operating from there without a porblem when VIII FC told them they were moving to a field to field made for bombers (long wide concrete runways and so forth), so that their present field could could be dug up, concrete runways laid and made into a field for heavies.

When he protested the sheer nonsense of this order he was politely told to shut up and carry on.

that i figure explains the logic of what unit got to be based where, not on more pertinent things like range and fuel and such
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I mean how from the coast is Peterborough ?

Peterborough is miles from the coast. Are there US FG there ?

East Anglia in the game was a nightmare when I looked at it. Geographically it is almost all perfectly flat. Where I am now on the coast you could build an airfield every couple of miles, with no obstructions save the odd drainage ditch.

When I looked into the game fields, I could only be bothered to quibble about the initial fighter fields, as these could be moved from the inland clutter onto the coast. The others ( mainly bomber ) did not seem to matter. Moving one, put it too near another, etc.

I thought we had the advantage in game, that we could base 3 FG on the same airbase ( should we wish ), which is a luxury they did not have in RL. Are there enough fields to do this satisfactorily ?

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Sorry about that last post, must of been really tired, I seem to be missing about a word every 3rd word or so (hope the idea still came though)

lets see

as of June 6th 1944
around Peterborough, the 20th FG was based at King Cliff which is farther inland

around Cambridge
361st at Bottisham
78th at Duxford
339th at Fowlmere
355th at Steeple Morden
4th at Debden

that map I am looking at, does not have a range scale, so HARD to judge

which I agree, as a player, I change the bases to either get the same types together, or my hunters all into one base
for the bombers, pretty much to get the types closer together

I do kind of try to set up the GB wings,
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Did a little reading on this today.

Some of the earliest FG in UK were mucked about due to the forward planning going towards the bombers. There was some sharing of fields with other units. Some units were also bumped off fields that were returned to bomber ownership.

Are the first four groups at their correct bases as of August 43 ?
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"Are the first four groups at their correct bases as of August 43 ?"

No they are not,

353rd FG should be based at Metfield. Alsio forgot to mention that 56th FG operated from Halesworth from 8 July 1943 to 18 April 1944, someone mentioned 56th FG operating from grass fields early on, guess that is Halesworth. Im not sure if Halesworth is in the game at all, dont recall it (I dont have the game installed on my computer at the moment, so I cant check it to be sure :(
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