WW2 CVL Cabot survives!!

[m10bob]

http://nasgi.org/cabot.htm

[Honda]

Not if I have anything to say about it in my games...

[Fornadan]

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wiki says she was scrapped in 2002

[Feinder]

I think she was broken up (litterally). I remember she was in New Orleans, back in about 96. She was at a bend of the Mississippi, and I could see her from a cruise ship. Was on my list to go see, but we didn't get to.

My brother lived in NO at the time. Said about about a year later, a barge coming down the Mississippi didn't make the turn, and smashed into the Cabot. I'm pretty sure they had to scrap her.

Whenevery Knavey wakes up, he'll probably chime in...

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Here's the info on the barge...

Almost a year later (1997), as the bulk carrier M/V Tomis Future was steaming downriver, her pilot brought her too close to the east bank, and she collided(1) with the Cabot, substantially damaging both the Cabot and the Wharf. The owner of the Tomis Future called out emergency response tugs to berth that vessel and to secure the Cabot against the Wharf. After Commander Daniel Whiting, the Coast Guard's Chief of Port Operations, inspected the damage, the Coast Guard again became concerned for the safety of the Cabot's moor, particularly because the Mississippi was running high. Three days after the allision, Captain Marsh issued another order under 33 U.S.C. Chapter 25, requiring the Foundation to hire a tug to stand by the Cabot and, within three days, to move the Cabot "to a safe hurricane mooring site" or a "robust hurricane mooring location." The next day, the owner of the Tomis Future took his tugs off hire and his vessel departed the port (without posting adequate security).


(* got it off the site posting the actual lawsuit *)

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The private groups attempting to preserve her as a memorial were unable to pay creditors, so, on 10 September 1999, the ship was auctioned off by the U.S. Marshal's Service to Sabe Marine Salvage. Scrapping of the hulk was completed in 2002.



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[Rob Brennan UK]

such a shame [:(]. but its a fate all too familiar to many ex-ww2 ships.

[m10bob]

IMHO, altogether too often we do not pay homage or do things to protect vestiges of our past.
Indiana had the chance to "save" the battleship Indiana, (and we might have moored her on the Ohio river OR Lake Michigan, both bordering Indiana), but the valiant ship went to the torch instead.
Recently, one of the ONLY intact LST's was restored and has its' own berth in Evansville Indiana.
Currently, another of our battleships is being disrespected as some of the whack job citizenry in San Francisco do not wish the ship to be permanently moored there, "as an instrument of war."
Without the ship, and other "instruments of war", gotta wonder what language would be spoken there today?[:-]

[Ron Saueracker]

Be nice to get some variety. How many Iowas or Essexes need be saved? Sheesh.

[rtrapasso]

I think she was broken up (litterally). I remember she was in New Orleans, back in about 96. She was at a bend of the Mississippi, and I could see her from a cruise ship. Was on my list to go see, but we didn't get to.

Well, if you had tried to go, you would have been disappointed unless you were into Breaking and Entering. I saw this thing sitting there docked for years (i'd generally go to New Orleans for a vacation once a year - it was just downstream from the French Market) and was itching to go tour it - but it wasn't open. The owner was trying to raise enough money to make it a tourist attraction, but it never came to pass.

[Curty]

ORIGINAL: Feinder

I think she was broken up (litterally). I remember she was in New Orleans, back in about 96. She was at a bend of the Mississippi, and I could see her from a cruise ship. Was on my list to go see, but we didn't get to.

My brother lived in NO at the time. Said about about a year later, a barge coming down the Mississippi didn't make the turn, and smashed into the Cabot. I'm pretty sure they had to scrap her.

Whenevery Knavey wakes up, he'll probably chime in...

-F-


Here's the info on the barge...

Almost a year later (1997), as the bulk carrier M/V Tomis Future was steaming downriver, her pilot brought her too close to the east bank, and she collided(1) with the Cabot, substantially damaging both the Cabot and the Wharf. The owner of the Tomis Future called out emergency response tugs to berth that vessel and to secure the Cabot against the Wharf. After Commander Daniel Whiting, the Coast Guard's Chief of Port Operations, inspected the damage, the Coast Guard again became concerned for the safety of the Cabot's moor, particularly because the Mississippi was running high. Three days after the allision, Captain Marsh issued another order under 33 U.S.C. Chapter 25, requiring the Foundation to hire a tug to stand by the Cabot and, within three days, to move the Cabot "to a safe hurricane mooring site" or a "robust hurricane mooring location." The next day, the owner of the Tomis Future took his tugs off hire and his vessel departed the port (without posting adequate security).


(* got it off the site posting the actual lawsuit *)

.
.
.

The private groups attempting to preserve her as a memorial were unable to pay creditors, so, on 10 September 1999, the ship was auctioned off by the U.S. Marshal's Service to Sabe Marine Salvage. Scrapping of the hulk was completed in 2002.



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Heres the Cabot leaving Port Isabel in August 1998 enroute to Brownsville

[Curty]

A final view of Cabot at Brownsville - one of the last photographs that sees her in one piece[8|]



Sorry about the light quality of these images[:(]

[panda124c]

ORIGINAL: m10bob


Currently, another of our battleships is being disrespected as some of the whack job citizenry in San Francisco do not wish the ship to be permanently moored there, "as an instrument of war."
Without the ship, and other "instruments of war", gotta wonder what language would be spoken there today?[:-]

Ah, the old idea that if you hide everything then it never happen. [:-]

[mlees]

ORIGINAL: pbear

ORIGINAL: m10bob


Currently, another of our battleships is being disrespected as some of the whack job citizenry in San Francisco do not wish the ship to be permanently moored there, "as an instrument of war."
Without the ship, and other "instruments of war", gotta wonder what language would be spoken there today?[:-]

Ah, the old idea that if you hide everything then it never happen. [:-]

Actually, the idea was that if they have a memorial (The USS Iowa?), then they must be "supporting" the idea of armed conflict as a legitimate means of settling differences.

(I feel that it is rather idealistic and/or naive to assume that diplomacy can never fail.)

But the city council of San Fran wanted to make a statement regarding the current US conflict...

[dtravel]

ORIGINAL: mlees

ORIGINAL: pbear

ORIGINAL: m10bob


Currently, another of our battleships is being disrespected as some of the whack job citizenry in San Francisco do not wish the ship to be permanently moored there, "as an instrument of war."
Without the ship, and other "instruments of war", gotta wonder what language would be spoken there today?[:-]

Ah, the old idea that if you hide everything then it never happen. [:-]

Actually, the idea was that if they have a memorial (The USS Iowa?), then they must be "supporting" the idea of armed conflict as a legitimate means of settling differences.

(I feel that it is rather idealistic and/or naive to assume that diplomacy can never fail.)

But the city council of San Fran wanted to make a statement regarding the current US conflict...

One that not everyone here in the San Francisco area agrees with. San Francisco politics gets rather disconnected from reality a little too frequently for comfort.

They also felt that it was not in the least hypocritical to be slamming plans for having the Iowa as a memorial in speechs given during the annual Fleet Week, one of the largest public naval exhibitions & celebrations in the country. [8|]

Sorry, not meaning to stir up a political debate. Also sorry to hear about the Cabot. [:(]

[mlees]

I don't blame everyone, dtravel. Notice I singled out the city council. [;)]

I am unsure of the vote on that decision, so it may not be fair to tarnish the council in it's entirety.

[ChezDaJez]

I remember seeing her every day while stationed in Rota, Spain. She was tied up just aft of the USS Canopus.

The Dedalo (ex-USS Cabot) seldom left port. I doubt I saw her go to sea more than 1-2 times in the 3.5 years I was there. She was supposed to have Sea Harriers onboard but the only place I ever saw those was either in th4e landing pattern or sitting on the ramp on the Spanish Navy side of the base. Never once saw a Harrier sitting on her deck, just the occasional helicopter.

Chez

[Ron Saueracker]

Perhaps there is an all gay/hint of mint/homosexual manned ship that could be preserved for San Francisco?[:D]

[String]

ORIGINAL: Ron Saueracker

Perhaps there is an all gay/hint of mint/homosexual manned ship that could be preserved for San Francisco?[:D]

You know, It's strange that a city so obsessed with gay rights would reject a Navy ship. You know, lot's of young muscled sweaty men, living for months on end on a crowded ship.... [;)]

[Ron Saueracker]

ORIGINAL: String

ORIGINAL: Ron Saueracker

Perhaps there is an all gay/hint of mint/homosexual manned ship that could be preserved for San Francisco?[:D]

You know, It's strange that a city so obsessed with gay rights would reject a Navy ship. You know, lot's of young muscled sweaty men, living for months on end on a crowded ship.... [;)]

Hell, the Navy invented the "Daisy Chain"![:D]

[dtravel]

[8|]

What makes the whole Iowa berthing bit even more insulting is the Bay Area's long history with and dependance on the military. Every county had multiple bases before the post-Cold War budget slashings. Most of everything that the military sent to the Pacific through the entire country's history went thru here. And now all of a sudden we're snubbing our noses at them!

Bah!! *mutter mutter mutter*

[Ron Saueracker]

ORIGINAL: dtravel

[8|]

What makes the whole Iowa berthing bit even more insulting is the Bay Area's long history with and dependance on the military. Every county had multiple bases before the post-Cold War budget slashings. Most of everything that the military sent to the Pacific through the entire country's history went thru here. And now all of a sudden we're snubbing our noses at them!

Bah!! *mutter mutter mutter*

Well, if they had saved the entire USS San Francisco that would have been something. The small section of the superstructure is all that is left on some hill somewhere. Hey, isn't Hornet just down the road?