Level of Detail

lucascuccia · Post by **lucascuccia** » Wed May 30, 2001 8:20 pm

I understand that units will have major weapon components listed for the features page. Will large units be able to have units attached or unattached as needed. An example might be the amtrac units of the USMC. They were organic to the divisions since their initial uses was for logistic ship to shore. Later their combat potential was realized at Tarawa when the first several waves of marines came ashore in them. Later in mid 44, they were pulled from divisional control to corp level since the divisions started to misuse them. Will this be allowed. Also will we be able to modify units to&e like was done or is the computer going to control this.

On a side note, when a force entrenches, is the level going to abstracted by a number like 1 bad through 9 good or are the defenders going to be able to specify what type of defenses will be more prevelant. Example, mines and anti tank traps work better against tanks while pill boxes stop infantry. Will the defender be allowed to specify what his defenses might entail, even in the abstract like 35% mines 40% pill boxes, 10% concrete reinforced structures, 15% anti tank traps. This level of detail might force the attacker to choose his assault team better.

madflava13 · Post by **madflava13** » Wed May 30, 2001 8:27 pm

I feel as thought specifying how many pillboxes, mines, etc. is an excessive level of detail for this game. I think that if a player wants that much control, then Steel Panthers is the game they need. I'm not bashing your question, I just feel like this game should be a little more strategic in focus. Please feel free to argue my point though...

Joel Billings · Post by **Joel Billings** » Thu May 31, 2001 7:56 pm

Sorry, no attachment of units and yes, fortifications are just a number from 1 to 9 for each unit and each base.

Joel

lucascuccia · Post by **lucascuccia** » Fri Jun 01, 2001 5:30 am

I understand what Joel was saying about different units. Will the game have vehicle battalions like 1st marine tank battalion with 46 M4 Shermans, similar to War in Russia. Or will divisions have AFV's (Generic Tanks) like in Pacwar.

What types of vehicles will be included, Amphibious tanks, tank destoyers, amphibious tractors to provide protection to infantry squads?

Will armored cars be just recon vehicles or will specific models be listed?

How about artillery. Will there be just guns or will specific calibers be listed?

Mike Wood · Post by **Mike Wood** » Fri Jun 01, 2001 9:35 am

Hello...

Individual weapons platforms are detailed and attenuated. There are not, as Joel mentioned, separable. Below, are a few units and the table of equipment for each.

Originally posted by Lucas Cuccia:
I understand what Joel was saying about different units. Will the game have vehicle battalions like 1st marine tank battalion with 46 M4 Shermans, similar to War in Russia. Or will divisions have AFV's (Generic Tanks) like in Pacwar. What types of vehicles will be included, Amphibious tanks, tank destroyers, amphibious tractors to provide protection to infantry squads? Will armored cars be just recon vehicles or will specific models be listed? How about artillery. Will there be just guns or will specific calibers be listed?

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HEADQUARTERS TYPE UNITS

Combined Fleet: (Yamamoto)
Support - 90

SOPAC: (Ghormley)
Support - 150
Aviation Support - 120

35th Brigade: (Kawaguchi)
Support - 30

1st Marine Division: (Vandegrift)
Support - 70

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COMBAT UNITS

144th Regiment: (Kusunose)
IJ Army Squad - 144
81mm Mortar - 36
90mm Mortar - 6
37mm Anti-Tank Gun - 12
75mm Howitzer - 6
75mm Infantry Gun - 12
75mm Mountain Gun - 12
Support - 200

47th Field Anti-Aircraft Battalion: (Kitiyama)
75mm Anti-Aircraft Gun - 18
13mm Twin Anti-Aircraft Gun - 9
Support - 27

38th IG Tankette Company: (Yeshareo)
Type 92 Tankette - 17
Motorized Support - 17

8th Tank Regiment: (Kawachini)
Type 95 Light Tank - 21
Type 89A Medium Tank - 49
Motorized Support - 54

5th Marine Regiment: (Hunt)
USMC Squad - 93
81mm Mortar - 18
37mm Anti-Tank Gun - 18
75mm GMC Halftrack - 6
75mm Pack Howitzer - 12
105mm Howitzer - 4
Support - 127

1st Marine Tank Battalion: (Walseth)
M3 Stuart Tank - 54
75mm GMC Halftrack - 6
Motorized Support - 27

3rd Marine Defense Battalion: (Pepper)
155mm Field Gun - 6
90mm Anti-Aircraft Gun - 12
40mm Bofors AA Gun - 8
20mm Oerlikon AA Gun - 8
Support - 24

16th Australian Brigade: (Lloyd)
ANZAC Squad - 117
81mm Mortar - 12
37mm Anti-Tank Gun - 16
25 lbr Howitzer - 12
Support - 144

Brisbane Coastal Artillery Regiment: (Brown)
6in Coastal Defense Gun - 6
Support - 6

I think You will like the game...

Michael Wood

lucascuccia · Post by **lucascuccia** » Fri Jun 01, 2001 1:51 pm

You DA Man. I can't wait.

jshaniii · Post by **jshaniii** » Sun Jun 03, 2001 9:36 am

Sounds great!

Cmdrcain · Post by **Cmdrcain** » Thu Jun 07, 2001 10:40 am

Originally posted by Mike Wood:
Hello...

Individual weapons platforms are detailed and attenuated. There are not, as Joel mentioned, separable. Below, are a few units and the table of equipment for each.

COMBAT UNITS

144th Regiment: (Kusunose)
IJ Army Squad - 144
81mm Mortar - 36
90mm Mortar - 6
37mm Anti-Tank Gun - 12
75mm Howitzer - 6
75mm Infantry Gun - 12
75mm Mountain Gun - 12
Support - 200

I think You will like the game...

Michael Wood

Sounds and looks goos as is... Will The Land units equiptment be upgradable over course of war?

[ June 07, 2001: Message edited by: Cmdrcain ]

Mike Wood · Post by **Mike Wood** » Thu Jun 07, 2001 2:45 pm

Hello...

Not by the player. Some units may be upgraded by the game, however.

Originally posted by Cmdrcain:

Sounds and looks goos as is... Will The Land units equiptment be upgradable over course of war?

Bye...

Michael Wood