problem with CHS-ships not showing

[RAM]

hi there.

Ok, here's the deal. I've got WITP 1.801 installed and just installed CHP pack and the modified map. Downloaded the campaign scenario (standard map) and started it.

Everything seems just fine (map looks great) but there is a little big problem here.

Combat animations show NO ships,only empty spaces where ships should be. In air to ship attack the planes appear (they look great, too) but the lower part of the animation shows only sea. No ship. On shipvsship battles all its shown is a vast, empty space.

The planes still attack the ships, the ships still fire against other ships. but the problem is-the animations themselves show NO ships...only vacuum.


Any hint on why can this be happening?


thanks.

[RAM]

Any input?

[vonSchnitter]

Well RAM,

since you did not state which versions of CHS, the Maps and what Scenario you are using I can just offer a rather long shot into the dark:

Open your save file playing Japanese. Look for two PG type ships in Shanghai - range is about 5000 (opposed to the regular PGs with 3000) if you cannot see a picture of these PGs, it is likely (well it happened to me once) your "art pack" (base package in CHS lingo) install went bad. (a wrong directory thing)

Cheers

[RAM]

Thanks for the input.

lets see, for starters, the map version is Andy Brown's v5 (normal map, NOT extended)
CHS Version is the one I assume is the last one ,v1.06 (thought it was implicit when I said I just installed it, but oh well )
Scenario I'm playing is 154, the CHS scenario for AB's normal map.

WiTP as I said, is patched up to 1.801


Will try what you say and edit this message with the results.



Edit:

ok, opened a game with the japanese. Ships are Idzumo and Idwate?. They show up in the ship screen nicely, so I guess its not that...

[Halsey]

When you extracted the Shil files they need to be in the AnShil and JnShil folders.
They are respectively the Transp folders.

Open your Ships Back folder and see if the Shil pink ones are there.
They need to be cut and pasted to the folders listed below.

There is also a possibility that you extracted them to the Art folder.
So look there also, if you don't see them in the Back folder.[;)]

AlliedShip_Back (full color)
AlliedShip_Transp (pink)
JapShip_Back (full color)
JapShip_transp (pink)

[Sardaukar]

You need the CHS graphics package too with scenario. It can be found on Andrew Brown's page, I think. It's called CHS base package or something like that.

[Halsey]

ORIGINAL: Sardaukar

You need the CHS graphics package too with scenario. It can be found on Andrew Brown's page, I think. It's called CHS base package or something like that.

Yeah, there is that possibility also.[:D]

[RAM]

lets see...

AlliedShip_back (Full color) - files are there
AlliedShip_transp (pink) - files are there
JapShip_back (full color) - files are there
JapShipShills_trans (pink) -files are there

(yeah last one is JapShipShills_trans, not JapShip_trans...maybe is this the problem? should I rename the folder to JapShips_trans?)


Lets see, I'll describe what I did to install the CHS art files.

Downloaded CHS_Base_1.zip file from http://www.bur.st/~akbrown/witp/CHS_doc ... all_4.html

unzipped it on D:\Matrix Games\War in the Pacific folder.

Ran the ModSelect.bat file. I selected option 3 (Andy Brown's normal map v5 + CHS art). Utility then installed the CHS art files.


When ships did not show up on combat animations, I did unzip the files manually from the zipped file to the folder where they had to go. problem remained after manually unzipping the files.


Thing that proves that the CHS art is installed is that

-planes new art show up nicely.

-ships side views are perfect on "ship view" screens. They just don't show up on combat animations.



So...any hints?


thanks for the input guys, lets see if I get this problem solved

[Halsey]

It has to be the transp folders that are incorrect.
The naming of the folders, in my above post, is the correct naming.
So I think you are correct in renaming the Japanese transp folder.

I have dual installs of WITP.
I've found that it was more reliable than the mod select feature that was included in the CHS.

[RAM]

ok, will rename the Japshipshills_trasnp folders to japship_trans

will come back with the results

[RAM]

nope, no change. Renamed the file and ran one turn (I'm playing anyway as the combat animations aren't vital for the game). Ships didn't appear on the combat animations...


Any idea on what's happening?

[Halsey]

That's all I can think of.

Maybe AB can give you some help.

I'm thinking this has to do with the mod select utility, which I don't use.

[RAM]

Some ideas? anyone?...

[Andrew Brown]

ORIGINAL: RAM

hi there.

Ok, here's the deal. I've got WITP 1.801 installed and just installed CHP pack and the modified map. Downloaded the campaign scenario (standard map) and started it.

Everything seems just fine (map looks great) but there is a little big problem here.

Combat animations show NO ships,only empty spaces where ships should be. In air to ship attack the planes appear (they look great, too) but the lower part of the animation shows only sea. No ship. On shipvsship battles all its shown is a vast, empty space.

Does this mean that you just can't see the CHS ships, or that you can't see ANY ships at all?

Also, what happens when you click on a ship to see its details? Do you see the ship pictures then?

Andrew

[RAM]

No ships show on the combat animation. Neither do the subs, by the way.

In an air to ship combat ,on hte upper side of the animation the aircraft can be seen, and they show OK (aircraft do appear on every combat animation. Nice graphs, BTW). But in the lower side there's nothing (the sea graphic, but no ship appears)

in the ASW Screen, the upper side is void (sea graphic, no ship), the lower side is also void (only the dark blue screen)

in ship vs ship combat animations, there's only the sea screen. No ships are shown at all.


The ship screens show the graphics just OK. I mean, I can see the ship picture perfectly on it. Just not on the combat animations .


Lets see if you know what's happening. Thanks for the input and...nice map and mods!!!

[Monter_Trismegistos]

Have you tried to play anything before installing CHS?

How many files do you have in JapShipShills_transp?

[RAM]

yes, I was playing a Marianas 1944 game in stock 1.801 before. No problems with combat animations there.

One question...the japship_trasnp folder should be named like that, or should be named JapShipShills_trasnp???

I ask because, in a previous post, I was told to change the name of the folder from JapShipShills_trasnp to JapShip_transp ...I tried that and didn't work,ships were still invisible, so I renamed back the folder to its original name.


The number of the files in each folder is as follows:

alliedship_back: 415 files
alliedship_transp: 417 files
japship_back: 229 files
JapShipShills_trasnp: (or JapShip_trasnp ,whatever it must be called): 229 files.


lets see if we can sort out what's happening here...

and thanks again for the answers

[RAM]

Looking closely at the folders, I've noticed that for each number of ship in the *_Back folder, there's a correspondence to a similar numbered ship in the *_trans folder.

If it's like that then both Alliedship_back and alliedship_transp should have the same number of files, yet there's a discrepance of two. So, there're two BMPs missing. Japanese folders have the exact same of files.

I can check which ones, but I just unzipped the chs_base_1.zip file again, and there's a similar discrepance of 2 files between both folders.

So I'm starting to wonder if it's not my problem, but a problem with the .zip folder itself.

Is the .zip file well compiled?. Maybe the animations are not being shown because there are two more ships in the Allied_Transp folder than in the allied_back one.


I have no idea on how graph mods work, so this is a WAG the size of the Grand Canyon...but who knows, may be this the problem?

[RAM]

and yet another thing which struck me as strange...in the alliedship_transp folder there are TWO ships numbered 239...

AnShil0239.bmp
AnShilo0239.bmp

But just one correspondence on the _Back folder , file AnSide0239.bmp (which, BTW, looks like the AnShilo0239.bmp ship, and not the AnShil0239.bmp one).

There is no such thing as an AnSideo0239.bmp to "correspond" to AnShilo0239.bmp



I have no idea if this should be like this and I'm just pointing out at perfectly normal things, but frankly...Knowing nothing about graphic modding in WITP, all I can do is to try and guess what's wrong with my CHS install [:'(]

[Andrew Brown]

It sounds like you have everything in the right place. I don't think the extra Allied bitmaps make any difference.

If you CAN see ALL Japanese ships in the combat screens of a stock scenario, but cannot see ANY ships in CHS, then I have no explanation, as many of the ship graphics files for CHS are exactly the same files as those used for the stock scenarios.

Andrew