Replacing map tile graphics

GDS_Starfury · Post by **GDS_Starfury** » Mon Feb 05, 2001 11:16 pm

Hi I was interested in switching out all the map tile graphics used in WiR. I was hopeing someone might be able to shed some light as to how I can do this. Hers what Ive done so far:

Hopefully Ill have a com[plete set soon sesonal changes.

StratMan · Post by **StratMan** » Wed Feb 07, 2001 1:01 pm

Looks good, but I am afraid I have no idea how it can be done, but it can because Matrix has altered the tile set in the past. But you probably already know that
Good job.
StratMan.

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GDS_Starfury · Post by **GDS_Starfury** » Mon Feb 19, 2001 2:03 pm

Ive been racking my brain trying to figure how to get this set in the game and replace the entire map with something more visually pleasing. If anyone can help me here please speak up

Rich Dionne · Post by **Rich Dionne** » Mon Feb 19, 2001 7:59 pm

GDS,

I've developed a new version of my icon editor that will convert the entire icon set into a bitmap, allowing you to edit with your favorite paint program, and then convert the bitmap back into the icon set. I should have this up at my website in about a week. I'll let you know as soon as it's done.

By the way, your icon set looks very nice, but the game is limited to the 16 colors that the tiles currently use (built into the EXE), so you will need to stay within this limitation for your work.

Regards,

Rich Dionne

Originally posted by GDS_Starfury:
Ive been racking my brain trying to figure how to get this set in the game and replace the entire map with something more visually pleasing. If anyone can help me here please speak up

[This message has been edited by Rich Dionne (edited February 19, 2001).]

Yogi Yohan · Post by **Yogi Yohan** » Tue Feb 20, 2001 12:05 am

Originally posted by GDS_Starfury:
Hi I was interested in switching out all the map tile graphics used in WiR. I was hopeing someone might be able to shed some light as to how I can do this. Hers what Ive done so far:

Hopefully Ill have a com[plete set soon sesonal changes.

Starfury, I do not recognize the tiles you have listed as "old". The swamp, woods, rough and mountain tiles I have in my copy of WIR (2.1) are the same as in the original game. Have I missed something?

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Ed Cogburn · Post by **Ed Cogburn** » Tue Feb 20, 2001 6:28 am

Originally posted by Yogi Yohan:
Starfury, I do not recognize the tiles you have listed as "old". The swamp, woods, rough and mountain tiles I have in my copy of WIR (2.1) are the same as in the original game. Have I missed something?

I'm wondering where he got "rough" and "fort" as those terrains do not exist in WiR.

Rich Dionne · Post by **Rich Dionne** » Tue Feb 20, 2001 6:40 am

Another problem with these icon images, they have too much resolution. The WIR icon tiles have only 32 x 24 pixels. As you indicate Ed, the "old" set is clearly not from WIR. It looks more like the Western Front icon set.

Rich Dionne

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GDS_Starfury · Post by **GDS_Starfury** » Tue Feb 20, 2001 1:08 pm

ok heres the deal and I certainly hope im not offending anyone or violating some kind of NDA that I am unaware of.
One day when I was looking through the 2by3 Games site I ran across the email link asking for graphic artist. Being a artist myself I applied. After some discussion back and forth Mr. Brors asked if I would like to try painting out the WiR map. All I have wanted to do since I was a teenager is make or somehow be involved in making a wargame. Call it love for a hobby I hold dear to me. Unfortunatly my art art skills far exceed my programing skills. Back to the point... Mr. Brors sent me some tools and graphics that had been done to date and as far as I know its for WiR. Again Im not trying to cross a unknown line here. After digging through all this stuff that absolutly confused me I ran across a series of images, the bottom row of tiles. Seeing these my first impulse was to repaint them. Upon doing this Im still left to figure out how to put them back in the game. The communication Ive had with 2by3 has been sporadic due mostly to me having a few personal crisises and having to run my business. I just figured this would be the best place to look for help mostly because by the time Im online and working on this stuff their offices are closed. The help recieved so far is much appricated and I really really hope this explanation doesnt piss off anyone as Im looking at this as possibly my only chance to achieve that boyhood dream.

Yogi Yohan · Post by **Yogi Yohan** » Tue Feb 20, 2001 4:04 pm

Originally posted by GDS_Starfury:
I really really hope this explanation doesnt piss off anyone as Im looking at this as possibly my only chance to achieve that boyhood dream.

I can't see for my life why anyone would be pissed off. The tiles look great, we just wondered where the original ones are from, since it's not WIR. Although I'm no programmer, it sounds from other posts like it won't be possible to implement your tiles, due to restrictions in game resolution and number of colours. A pity, since the tiles really look fab.

RickyB · Post by **RickyB** » Tue Feb 20, 2001 8:18 pm

Originally posted by GDS_Starfury:
ok heres the deal and I certainly hope im not offending anyone or violating some kind of NDA that I am unaware of.
One day when I was looking through the 2by3 Games site I ran across the email link asking for graphic artist. Being a artist myself I applied. After some discussion back and forth Mr. Brors asked if I would like to try painting out the WiR map. All I have wanted to do since I was a teenager is make or somehow be involved in making a wargame. Call it love for a hobby I hold dear to me. Unfortunatly my art art skills far exceed my programing skills. Back to the point... Mr. Brors sent me some tools and graphics that had been done to date and as far as I know its for WiR. Again Im not trying to cross a unknown line here. After digging through all this stuff that absolutly confused me I ran across a series of images, the bottom row of tiles. Seeing these my first impulse was to repaint them. Upon doing this Im still left to figure out how to put them back in the game. The communication Ive had with 2by3 has been sporadic due mostly to me having a few personal crisises and having to run my business. I just figured this would be the best place to look for help mostly because by the time Im online and working on this stuff their offices are closed. The help recieved so far is much appricated and I really really hope this explanation doesnt piss off anyone as Im looking at this as possibly my only chance to achieve that boyhood dream.

Sounds great to me that you are working on this - good luck. It sounds like you are working on the new Eastern Front game that 2by3 is working on, which so far has not been tied to Matrix. That is what they would be needing help with, rather than the old WIR. So I would bet the graphics need to go back to 2by3 to integrate from their end. Enjoy it.

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Rick Bancroft
Semper Fi

Rich Dionne · Post by **Rich Dionne** » Tue Feb 20, 2001 11:32 pm

GDS,

I think your idea to improve the map tiles is a great one. I just wanted to point out some of the limitations of the graphics within WIR, as I've been wrestling the same issues in the Pacific War upgrade. I'll have an editor up at my website shortly, and I know of at least one other editor development effort, so you should have all kinds of options soon.

Regards,

Rich