japanese radar again

[Sneer]

i know that early japanese radar type doesn't work
question is which type works ?
if any ?

[pauk]

type 13 i think... the Type 13, which was an air-search radar, is defined in the game as a surface-search radar..

[Speedysteve]

Correct. My god Pauk you do know something then[:'(]

[Big B]

That was one of the questions I asked a week or two ago -

But more to the point, I didn't think the game distinguished between air search and surface search radars - only surface vs airborne radars (for use in aircraft)?[&:]

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ORIGINAL: pauk

type 13 i think... the Type 13, which was an air-search radar, is defined in the game as a surface-search radar..

[Sneer]

so type 13 has problems and 21 and 22 are ok ?

[Speedysteve]

Yes AFAIK

[pauk]

that is how i see things...

don't know anything about what B said...

[Big B]

ORIGINAL: pauk

that is how i see things...

don't know anything about what B said...

I think the Database only defines radars as "surface radar" (such as SCR270 and XCAM) and "aircraft radar".. which will be mounted in aircraft, and thereby are "airborne radar".

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[pauk]

hmm.... i know that air radars helps against air raids, allowing early warning and thus more planes on CAP - at least i have been told so....

[Honda]

Yeah, and when Jap BFs get their sound detectors "upgraded" to Type13s, Jap bases get less CAP then before, so more planes left to be bombed to smitherine

[Big B]

ORIGINAL: pauk

type 13 i think... the Type 13, which was an air-search radar, is defined in the game as a surface-search radar..

Ok, had time to look this up. There is nothing wrong with Japanese Type 13 RADAR.
It is defined as surface radar - but virtually ALL radar is surface radar in the game - except those designated as aircraft radar...which is only meant to be carried aboard aircraft.

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[Brady]

My understanding is that NO aircraft cary radar in game that works as intended, for surface search, that is for use in detecting ships/subs.
 
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[Big B]

ORIGINAL: Brady

My understanding is that NO aircraft cary radar in game that works as intended, for surface search, that is for use in detecting ships/subs.

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Well, all I can tell you is that again, every RADAR that is an air-search radar (like SCR270 or XCAM, or even SC and SJ) is defined as surface radar.

Maybe NONE of them work - but they are all the same.

EDIT: So I suspect that the surface radar classification works as an air search radar for any unit so equiped. There is definately nothing different between Allied and Japanese radars on this matter.

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[stonefoot]

My understanding is that the problem with the Type 13 is that they forgot to give it a penetration factor like the other radars for detecting aircraft. Thats why when a Jap BF upgrades from sound detectors to radar they get worse at raid detection since the sound detectors have a better penetration rating.

[Mynok]

Radar (no matter what kind) that have no penetration value will not search for aircraft.

[Big B]

ORIGINAL: stonefoot

My understanding is that the problem with the Type 13 is that they forgot to give it a penetration factor like the other radars for detecting aircraft. Thats why when a Jap BF upgrades from sound detectors to radar they get worse at raid detection since the sound detectors have a better penetration rating.

ORIGINAL: Mynok


Radar (no matter what kind) that have no penetration value will not search for aircraft.

Well there you may well be correct - because a quick check revealed no penetration value for Japanes RADAR [&:]

[Big B]

Well your pleas have not fallen on deaf ears. In the soon to be posted "B Mod" all Japanese RADAR problems will be addressed [;)]

EDIT: Ok, which Japanese RADARS are supposed to be Air Search RADAR, and which, if any, are supposed to be surface search only RADAR - such as American SC RADAR?

Well, it looks like the only RADAR we are talking about here is Type 13, so....


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[Brady]

 
Referance:
 
 
http://www.combinedfleet.com/radar.htm

[FeurerKrieg]

Penetration for radar is simply a flag. 0 means it detects surface units 500 means it detects air units.
The aircraft/surface classification only refers to where the radar is mounted. (Surface is on ships and LCU, air is aircraft).

There was a fix posted from michael that would update the database but it of course does not work on games in progress.

[castor troy]

ORIGINAL: Feurer Krieg

Penetration for radar is simply a flag. 0 means it detects surface units 500 means it detects air units.
The aircraft/surface classification only refers to where the radar is mounted. (Surface is on ships and LCU, air is aircraft).

There was a fix posted from michael that would update the database but it of course does not work on games in progress.

Why is it so hard to update ongoing games? I just wonder.