<t> I am sorry to say that I am fully frustrated with CMANO. I have asked for a refund, as suggested by one of the developers. I have received the refund. As such, I have deleted the game from my hard drive, and will no longer be participating on this forum. I thought I would give you a few parting ...

Great suggestions. I'll give it a go.

But it looks like there is an error, so I guess I should hold off until the next build to try it.

<t> The ship has the active sonar. The subs are passive (the active sonar is off). <br/>
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The subs show up on the ship's sonars immediately when they enter the sonar radius. Is that considered 'really close'? If so, then when does the layer make a difference? I've tried for several hours to ...

<t> OK, I checked. The strength of the layer was .42. I moved the subs and ships to another area with the highest layer strength I could find (.65), and no change.<br/>
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The sonars look like they are not towed (I still don't know how that is indicated). Active only at the distance I am ...

<t> Thanks for responding.<br/>
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- Are the "detecting units" using Passive or Active sonar? <br/>
They are passive for the sub and active for the ships.<br/>
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- Do the "detecting units" have towed arrays? <br/>
Not sure. I looked in the database, and I think there is no towed array ...

<t> I've been trying out the Scenario Editor, switching from side to side, to see how changing depth changes being picked up on sonar. I am using the scenario Maria & Victoria. <br/>
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I found that even if I teleport the units (both sides) to deep water where a CZ exists, the boats will always ...

Actually, I narrowed it down here. This is a better test.

The sub can see the ships, and the ships can see the subs.

<t> I've been trying out the Scenario Editor, switching from side to side, to see how changing depth changes being picked up on sonar. I am using the scenario Maria & Victoria.<br/>
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I found that even if I teleport the units (both sides) to deep water where a CZ exists, the boats will always ...

<t> navwarcol, thanks for the suggestion to use the editor. It is very easy to use, and a great help to test out weapon systems quickly. I think I should have started there. Thanks again!!<br/>
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Baloogan, I have done the First Contact scenarios, and yes, they were helpful. <br/>
Iron Hand is ...

Thank you very much for the encouragement.

I didn't think about that. I'll give it a try.

Thanks

Thanks. I do appreciate the work, and the game.

Tomcat84, thank you.

Agreed. Done.

I just hope he doesn't pipe in again when I ask my next question, assuming I don't get the refund.

Why are you continuing. You are the problem here. Can't you see that?

Ok, but I am getting it continually in Coral Magpie.

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<QUOTE><s>[quote]</s>ORIGINAL: thewood1<br/>
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There is some serious disingenuous-ness going on here...<br/>
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<QUOTE><s>[quote]</s>ORIGINAL: mikmyk<br/>
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As a general statement we do know there are haters out there who do leverage the ambiguity of the internet to stir up trouble etc. This is not some new thing they cleverly invented. Our view is that the best tool we have to deal this is the ...

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don't update with betas.

I am in no way referring to the betas. I am referring to the game as a whole.