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...I fully realize that the massive outputs attained later in the war could not have been achieved until the importation of foreign labor was taken seriously...
<e>[/quote]</e></QUOTE>I think this is one areas that needs to be directly tied ...

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<QUOTE><s>[quote]</s>ORIGINAL: sulla05<br/>
... I do believe that a correctly done defensive war in the east could have bled the Soviets so bad that a negotiated peace comes into play. With the opening of the Soviet archives we now know how close to the bottom of the barrel the Soviets were ...

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<QUOTE><s>[quote]</s>ORIGINAL: Cmdrcain<br/>
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which brings another blunder... Hitlers declaring war on USA rendered it unnecessary for roosvelt to push for a declaration on germany...
<e>[/quote]</e></QUOTE>The Germans wanted war with the US (a country they had a particularly low ...

ORIGINAL: bigbaba
with a human policy in russia, the germans would surely beat stalin, but not with their nazi ideology.

No Nazis and their policies... is there an invasion of the Soviet Union at all? Are they not linked?

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<QUOTE><s>[quote]</s>ORIGINAL: Gary Childress<br/>
...Basically the question is, could the Germans have defeated the Soviet Union in WW2?...
<e>[/quote]</e></QUOTE>Historically, they really weren't that close to succeeding, so it would take a lot of 'changes to history' to alter that.<br ...

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<QUOTE><s>[quote]</s>ORIGINAL: Gary Childress<br/>
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I agree, being inaccurate does not necessarily mean that a movie is not entertaining or doesn't have an effect upon us. The point, however, is that the movie was very inaccurate. Whether we like the movie or not it was, in fact, very ...

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<QUOTE><s>[quote]</s>ORIGINAL: jacksy<br/>
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For me it's any war film were Hollywood ignores,belittles or completely writes out the efforts of all the other allies.
<e>[/quote]</e></QUOTE>Hollywood doesn't care. They are in the interest of making money... if they could make a fortune ...

<r> <QUOTE><s>[quote]</s>ORIGINAL: jacksy<br/>
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Did you foget about HMS Bulldog? She captured U110 in 1941 including an Enigma machine, secret documents and keys
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No, but it didn't seem to fit the criteria. The movie is a fiction account of stealing an enigma machine ...

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<QUOTE><s>[quote]</s>ORIGINAL: Japan<br/>
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...ANY country can manage huge improvmants if enugth resourses is put into it over a period of 2 years. This also applays for stonage nations like Japan...<e>[/quote]</e></QUOTE>
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Japan did not have the ability to radically change in ...

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<QUOTE><s>[quote]</s>ORIGINAL: Doggie<br/>
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My nostalgic TV memories are in the 60's. By the 1980's "stupid" became the latest entertainment fad. Westerns were out, miltary themed shows were out. Hippie cops who wanted to take it to the man were in. Dedicated left leaning doctors were ...

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<QUOTE><s>[quote]</s>ORIGINAL: SS Hauptsturmfuhrer<br/>
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Barbarossa was fairly doomed before it even started like Sun Tsu says battles are won before the fighting starts. The reason is Hitler changed all the excellent plans which the staff had spent months developing, in particular ...

<r> “By innacurate it could be innaccurate props, or innaccurate story lines (unless the movie is intentionally about a fictional battle).”<br/>
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Gary Childress<br/>

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U571 was the worst. <e>[/quote]</e></QUOTE>
How so? U-571 is completely ...

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<QUOTE><s>[quote]</s>ORIGINAL: sapper_astro<br/>
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You are forgetting that Moscow was the central communications hub. Railway lines from North to South, telegraph lines, etc all ran through it. Chances are, with the fall of Moscow, the fall of Leningrad would have been a much higher ...

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<QUOTE><s>[quote]</s>ORIGINAL: miral<br/>
Given how close the Germans came to Moscow anyhow, starting their offensive later, with more worn out troops, the odds are that they could have taken the city in 1941, with enormous consequences for that war and world history...<e>[/quote]</e></QUOTE ...

ORIGINAL: undercovergeek

ORIGINAL: Culiacan Mexico
What blatant lie?

could be!

[&:]

ORIGINAL: undercovergeek



youve read all this thread yes?

Was this for me?

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<QUOTE><s>[quote]</s>ORIGINAL: undercovergeek<br/>
i may be wrong, but was the thread not started because it appears that a member here went to SH with a blatant lie about another member here and it seemed worthy of discussion - if not i apologise
<e>[/quote]</e></QUOTE>What blatant lie?<br ...

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<QUOTE><s>[quote]</s>ORIGINAL: AW1Steve<br/>
That would be great if the two parties stayed in their respective corners , but it doesn't seem to work out that way. It usually consists of someone being unsatified here, then going there to complain (or try and get reinforcements) and dragging ...

ORIGINAL: Terminus

Well, there's a reason why they're over there, and we're over here.[8|]

You are showing your ignorance.

<r> <QUOTE><s>[quote]</s>ORIGINAL: Mike SchollActually, quite a few..., but they didn't push it to the extremes the Japanese did. And most of those A/C were designed without "combat experiance" well before the war started.<br/>

<e>[/quote]</e></QUOTE>They didn't push it to extremes because of the ...