PzB vs Wobbly - Clash of Steel
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RE: Eniwetok falls!
Use Irvings for CAPing the rear bases that are out of P38J range. The only use for them, and you get a free fighter cover for a base.
RE: Eniwetok falls!
That is the only logical conclusion Honda. What is the extended range of the P-38J - 15 hexes?
Andy was a bit surprised that Eniwetok fell this quickly but when you consider that he landed ca 3
division of troops to defeat 2 naval guard units...
Reveived loads of Frances bombers today - loadout is 4x250 kb bombs. Does this mean that this torpedo
bomber will only carry bombs? [:(] Been a bit afraid of this! All new Daitais now arrive with crappy
pilots with an average of 45 exp. Lost 5! Francis in transfers from Japan to Shanghai in cloudy weather.
The good news: One of the Zeke Daitai's that arrived upgraded to 54 George's [&o]
Got soo many air units now that it's really difficult to know where to put them. Now as Andy is about to
finish his dirty work in the Marshalls his numerous carriers will most likely come looking for trouble.
I don't want to provide them with too many easy kills. Difficult situation really, but it could have been
worse [;)]
AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 01/12/44
Ground Combat
Still some fight left in the troops! [:)]
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Ground combat at Eniwetok
Allied Deliberate attack
Attacking force 30210 troops, 256 guns, 14 vehicles
Defending force 9890 troops, 5 guns, 0 vehicles
Allied assault odds: 10 to 1
Japanese ground losses:
889 casualties reported
Guns lost 2
Allied ground losses:
575 casualties reported
Guns lost 10
Vehicles lost 1
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Andy was a bit surprised that Eniwetok fell this quickly but when you consider that he landed ca 3
division of troops to defeat 2 naval guard units...
Reveived loads of Frances bombers today - loadout is 4x250 kb bombs. Does this mean that this torpedo
bomber will only carry bombs? [:(] Been a bit afraid of this! All new Daitais now arrive with crappy
pilots with an average of 45 exp. Lost 5! Francis in transfers from Japan to Shanghai in cloudy weather.
The good news: One of the Zeke Daitai's that arrived upgraded to 54 George's [&o]
Got soo many air units now that it's really difficult to know where to put them. Now as Andy is about to
finish his dirty work in the Marshalls his numerous carriers will most likely come looking for trouble.
I don't want to provide them with too many easy kills. Difficult situation really, but it could have been
worse [;)]
AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 01/12/44
Ground Combat
Still some fight left in the troops! [:)]
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Ground combat at Eniwetok
Allied Deliberate attack
Attacking force 30210 troops, 256 guns, 14 vehicles
Defending force 9890 troops, 5 guns, 0 vehicles
Allied assault odds: 10 to 1
Japanese ground losses:
889 casualties reported
Guns lost 2
Allied ground losses:
575 casualties reported
Guns lost 10
Vehicles lost 1
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Do you want to upgrade to the N1K1-J George?
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RE: Eniwetok falls!
The problem is that you started (as I remember) under ver. 1.21. So later OoB changes are not included. Seems that Frances recieved torpedoes during later patch.
Nec Temere Nec Timide
Bez strachu ale z rozwagą
Bez strachu ale z rozwagą
RE: Eniwetok falls!
I believe that early version under which you started is the problem too. Bad for you, because Freances could carry torpedoes up to 11 hexes distances and are fast and armoured. With bombs its another worthless plane like Sally or Helen in 1944.
IIRC P38G has extended range 9 hexes, but i am not sure about P38J.
IIRC P38G has extended range 9 hexes, but i am not sure about P38J.
RE: Eniwetok falls!
Stop it with that or he's gonna commit suicide [:D]I believe that early version under which you started is the problem too. Bad for you, because Freances could carry torpedoes up to 11 hexes distances and are fast and armoured. With bombs its another worthless plane like Sally or Helen in 1944.
No seriousely, no way a save or a OOB may get edited to enable this midgame?
RE: Eniwetok falls!
Frances without Torps are really a game breaker. It can make a massive difference in the decisive battle between sinking several capital ships and just damaging/scratching them, which in turn can maker the diffference in an invasion....
Hope it can be tweaked somehow...
Hope it can be tweaked somehow...
Adieu Ô Dieu odieux... signé Adam
RE: Eniwetok falls!
ORIGINAL: veji1
Frances without Torps are really a game breaker. It can make a massive difference in the decisive battle between sinking several capital ships and just damaging/scratching them, which in turn can maker the diffference in an invasion....
Hope it can be tweaked somehow...
They will still be quite useful as Kamikazes. Train them up in china, and then..
Surface combat TF fanboy
RE: Eniwetok falls!
No way to change the OOB without restarting the game...so that's it! [:(]
Will train my Frances to 85-90 exp and use them as night kamikazes or long range bombers!
Max range is 15, normal range 11.
Not sure how easy it is to get night kamikazes to take off against enemy targets[&:]
Will train my Frances to 85-90 exp and use them as night kamikazes or long range bombers!
Max range is 15, normal range 11.
Not sure how easy it is to get night kamikazes to take off against enemy targets[&:]
"The problem in defense is how far you can go without destroying from within what you are trying to defend from without"
- Dwight D. Eisenhower
RE: Eniwetok falls!
Took a look at the historical 6/44 scenario and noticed that the Japs had just as many - and more - troops
on many of the forward bases than I we do. Hm, not sure were they come from...instead of putting troops in Burma
I got mine in India. If I were to put 2 full divisions each on Timor, Rabaul, the Bonins, Formosa + 4 in New Guinea
and 4 in the Marianas/Palaus I'd have to rob China/Kwantung [:'(]
on many of the forward bases than I we do. Hm, not sure were they come from...instead of putting troops in Burma
I got mine in India. If I were to put 2 full divisions each on Timor, Rabaul, the Bonins, Formosa + 4 in New Guinea
and 4 in the Marianas/Palaus I'd have to rob China/Kwantung [:'(]
"The problem in defense is how far you can go without destroying from within what you are trying to defend from without"
- Dwight D. Eisenhower
RE: Eniwetok falls!
ORIGINAL: PzB
No way to change the OOB without restarting the game...so that's it! [:(]
Will train my Frances to 85-90 exp and use them as night kamikazes or long range bombers!
Max range is 15, normal range 11.
Not sure how easy it is to get night kamikazes to take off against enemy targets[&:]
Kamikazes don't fly at night
Surface combat TF fanboy
RE: Eniwetok falls!
No way to change the OOB without restarting the game...so that's it!
Mike added the ability to update devices from newer patches, but I believe there is no unit or group OOB update.
"Measure civilization by the ability of citizens to mock government with impunity" -- Unknown
RE: Eniwetok falls!
Nothing but bad news [:@]
I want Feglein, Fegelein, Fegelein!!! (<- Link:-)
AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 01/13/44
Air Combat
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Day Air attack on TF at 79,81
Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty x 7
Japanese aircraft losses
G4M1 Betty: 1 destroyed, 5 damaged
Allied Ships
LCT LCT-172, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
LCI LCI-75, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
Aircraft Attacking:
4 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
2 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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Ground Combat
Ground combat at Eniwetok
Allied Shock attack
Attacking force 1157 troops, 15 guns, 18 vehicles
Defending force 8122 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles
Allied assault odds: 0 to 1
Japanese ground losses:
229 casualties reported
Allied ground losses:
103 casualties reported
Vehicles lost 7
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I want Feglein, Fegelein, Fegelein!!! (<- Link:-)
AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 01/13/44
Air Combat
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Day Air attack on TF at 79,81
Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty x 7
Japanese aircraft losses
G4M1 Betty: 1 destroyed, 5 damaged
Allied Ships
LCT LCT-172, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
LCI LCI-75, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
Aircraft Attacking:
4 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
2 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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Ground Combat
Ground combat at Eniwetok
Allied Shock attack
Attacking force 1157 troops, 15 guns, 18 vehicles
Defending force 8122 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles
Allied assault odds: 0 to 1
Japanese ground losses:
229 casualties reported
Allied ground losses:
103 casualties reported
Vehicles lost 7
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"The problem in defense is how far you can go without destroying from within what you are trying to defend from without"
- Dwight D. Eisenhower
RE: Eniwetok falls!
God he's turning nuts!!!!I want Feglein, Fegelein, Fegelein!!! (<- Link:-)
Give him a rest, or give him his torpedoes, or we're gonna lose him!! [:D]
RE: Eniwetok falls!
That last poochs€rew was most annoying indeed Fishbed - and if Fegelein (Matrix) had been around
they would have gotten their fair share of the music [;)]
Not much happening, Andy is busy with his 'stuff' around the Marshalls and I continue to organize
the defenses. Moving 5 aviation regiments from Japan and ex Kwajalein/Eniwtok to the Philippines.
2 heavy artillery units are enroute to Menando and Morotai.
It will now take a major effort to crack the defensive perimeter no matter were it's attacked [8D]
AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 01/14/44
Sub/ASW Attacks
Another sub was hit by asw ac - slowly forcing the US subs out of the China Sea!
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ASW attack at 34,47
Japanese Ships
PC Ch 11
PC Ch 9
PC Ch 3
PC Takuna Maru #7
PC Sonan Maru #6
PC Seki Maru #2
PG Yoshida Maru
Allied Ships
SS Apogon, hits 3, on fire, heavy damage *sinks*
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they would have gotten their fair share of the music [;)]
Not much happening, Andy is busy with his 'stuff' around the Marshalls and I continue to organize
the defenses. Moving 5 aviation regiments from Japan and ex Kwajalein/Eniwtok to the Philippines.
2 heavy artillery units are enroute to Menando and Morotai.
It will now take a major effort to crack the defensive perimeter no matter were it's attacked [8D]
AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 01/14/44
Sub/ASW Attacks
Another sub was hit by asw ac - slowly forcing the US subs out of the China Sea!
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ASW attack at 34,47
Japanese Ships
PC Ch 11
PC Ch 9
PC Ch 3
PC Takuna Maru #7
PC Sonan Maru #6
PC Seki Maru #2
PG Yoshida Maru
Allied Ships
SS Apogon, hits 3, on fire, heavy damage *sinks*
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"The problem in defense is how far you can go without destroying from within what you are trying to defend from without"
- Dwight D. Eisenhower
RE: Eniwetok falls!
AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 01/15/44
Air Combat
Enemy bombers on Kwajalein hit Ponape and Kusaie Islands today and destroyed a number
of supply ac on the ground. Time to evacuate...been prolonging it for as long as possible.
The USS Donado was reported sunk today!
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Day Air attack on Ponape , at 71,79
Japanese aircraft
no flights
Allied aircraft
B-25J Mitchell x 38
PB4Y Liberator x 24
B-24D Liberator x 40
Japanese aircraft losses
H6K2-L Mavis: 4 destroyed
L3Y Tina: 14 destroyed
H8K Emily: 1 destroyed
Ki-57-II Topsy: 1 destroyed
Allied aircraft losses
B-25J Mitchell: 1 damaged
PB4Y Liberator: 1 damaged
Airbase hits 18
Airbase supply hits 4
Runway hits 77
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Day Air attack on Kusaie Island , at 75,82
Japanese aircraft
no flights
Allied aircraft
Liberator VI x 7
P-47D Thunderbolt x 32
Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-46-III Dinah: 1 destroyed
Allied aircraft losses
Liberator VI: 1 damaged
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 5
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Day Air attack on TF at 76,83 - based on Kusaie Island!
Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty x 6
Japanese aircraft losses
G4M1 Betty: 1 destroyed, 4 damaged
Allied Ships
LCT LCT-153, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
LST LST-19
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Ground Combat
Still holding up the Allied troops on Eniwetok!
Allied Deliberate attack
Attacking force 31359 troops, 289 guns, 13 vehicles
Defending force 7936 troops, 5 guns, 0 vehicles
Allied assault odds: 12 to 1
Japanese ground losses:
1312 casualties reported
Guns lost 2
Allied ground losses:
425 casualties reported
Guns lost 15
Vehicles lost 1
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Enemy raiding force!?
The US fleet carrier Essex is only one of the ships that was spotted in this 'cluster'!
No transports so I guess it's a raiding force...! LBA in the Home Islands and the Marianas
put on alert.
Air Combat
Enemy bombers on Kwajalein hit Ponape and Kusaie Islands today and destroyed a number
of supply ac on the ground. Time to evacuate...been prolonging it for as long as possible.
The USS Donado was reported sunk today!
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Day Air attack on Ponape , at 71,79
Japanese aircraft
no flights
Allied aircraft
B-25J Mitchell x 38
PB4Y Liberator x 24
B-24D Liberator x 40
Japanese aircraft losses
H6K2-L Mavis: 4 destroyed
L3Y Tina: 14 destroyed
H8K Emily: 1 destroyed
Ki-57-II Topsy: 1 destroyed
Allied aircraft losses
B-25J Mitchell: 1 damaged
PB4Y Liberator: 1 damaged
Airbase hits 18
Airbase supply hits 4
Runway hits 77
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Day Air attack on Kusaie Island , at 75,82
Japanese aircraft
no flights
Allied aircraft
Liberator VI x 7
P-47D Thunderbolt x 32
Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-46-III Dinah: 1 destroyed
Allied aircraft losses
Liberator VI: 1 damaged
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 5
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Day Air attack on TF at 76,83 - based on Kusaie Island!
Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty x 6
Japanese aircraft losses
G4M1 Betty: 1 destroyed, 4 damaged
Allied Ships
LCT LCT-153, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
LST LST-19
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Ground Combat
Still holding up the Allied troops on Eniwetok!
Allied Deliberate attack
Attacking force 31359 troops, 289 guns, 13 vehicles
Defending force 7936 troops, 5 guns, 0 vehicles
Allied assault odds: 12 to 1
Japanese ground losses:
1312 casualties reported
Guns lost 2
Allied ground losses:
425 casualties reported
Guns lost 15
Vehicles lost 1
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Enemy raiding force!?
The US fleet carrier Essex is only one of the ships that was spotted in this 'cluster'!
No transports so I guess it's a raiding force...! LBA in the Home Islands and the Marianas
put on alert.
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- Dwight D. Eisenhower
RE: Eniwetok falls!
AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 01/16/44
Two subs hit by asw ac: the USS Devilfish and USS Archerfish. It was the latter that
sank the carrier Shinano in December 1944!
Ground Combat
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Ground combat at Eniwetok
Allied Deliberate attack
Attacking force 32006 troops, 303 guns, 13 vehicles
Defending force 6387 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles
Allied assault odds: 17 to 1
Japanese ground losses:
194 casualties reported
Allied ground losses:
588 casualties reported [:D]
Guns lost 9
Vehicles lost 2
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Enemy raiding force 2
Andy continues to move his carriers towards the Bonins! What is he after?
I'm happy to let him burn fuel and accumulate system damage.
In May 1944 we receive another 3 fleet carriers. The last major naval reinforcement of the war!
Two subs hit by asw ac: the USS Devilfish and USS Archerfish. It was the latter that
sank the carrier Shinano in December 1944!
Ground Combat
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Ground combat at Eniwetok
Allied Deliberate attack
Attacking force 32006 troops, 303 guns, 13 vehicles
Defending force 6387 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles
Allied assault odds: 17 to 1
Japanese ground losses:
194 casualties reported
Allied ground losses:
588 casualties reported [:D]
Guns lost 9
Vehicles lost 2
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Enemy raiding force 2
Andy continues to move his carriers towards the Bonins! What is he after?
I'm happy to let him burn fuel and accumulate system damage.
In May 1944 we receive another 3 fleet carriers. The last major naval reinforcement of the war!
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- Dwight D. Eisenhower
RE: Eniwetok falls!
AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 01/17/44
Another 2 subs hit by asw ac!
Ground Combat
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Ground combat at Eniwetok
Allied Deliberate attack
Attacking force 32896 troops, 357 guns, 12 vehicles
Defending force 5815 troops, 1 guns, 0 vehicles
Allied assault odds: 0 to 1 [&:]
Japanese ground losses:
302 casualties reported
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Enemy Raiding Force 3
What now? Andy moves his carriers west towards the Phillipines! I'm adjusting my
CAP and naval bomber range. Don't want to sacrifice 500 ac for nothing. If the enemy
get to close 2000 ac will target them! A replenishment group has left the Marshalls and
is trailing the carriers.
400 fighters over Tokyo and Ulithi...we wait!
Another 2 subs hit by asw ac!
Ground Combat
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Ground combat at Eniwetok
Allied Deliberate attack
Attacking force 32896 troops, 357 guns, 12 vehicles
Defending force 5815 troops, 1 guns, 0 vehicles
Allied assault odds: 0 to 1 [&:]
Japanese ground losses:
302 casualties reported
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Enemy Raiding Force 3
What now? Andy moves his carriers west towards the Phillipines! I'm adjusting my
CAP and naval bomber range. Don't want to sacrifice 500 ac for nothing. If the enemy
get to close 2000 ac will target them! A replenishment group has left the Marshalls and
is trailing the carriers.
400 fighters over Tokyo and Ulithi...we wait!
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"The problem in defense is how far you can go without destroying from within what you are trying to defend from without"
- Dwight D. Eisenhower
RE: Eniwetok falls!
Strange he didn't even try to strike iwo jima passing by, I mean he must know he is discovered for some days now, mustn't he?
AJ
AJ
RE: Eniwetok falls!
Maybe he has all his bombers on ASW or Naval Search and his fighters at 90% CAP. Trying to get you to fly against him so he can down a lot of your aircraft. [:D] That sounds sneaky, like andy. [8D] He could also just have them set to Naval Attack and rest.
RE: Eniwetok falls!
If so I would get all the fighters on CAP over sensible airbases and wait for him to come, maybe with the KB some hundreds kilometers away on interception course...
I mean, we can be sure you will achieve nothing about a 200+ ubercap as they will be no leakers - BUT, if he gets impatient and comes get nasty against one of your marianas airbases, that would be nice to be ready to welcome him, and strike back if he gets a little weaker...
AJ
I mean, we can be sure you will achieve nothing about a 200+ ubercap as they will be no leakers - BUT, if he gets impatient and comes get nasty against one of your marianas airbases, that would be nice to be ready to welcome him, and strike back if he gets a little weaker...
AJ