Who wants to fly this

Eagle Day to Bombing of the Reich is a improved and enhanced edition of Talonsoft's older Battle of Britain and Bombing the Reich. This updated version represents the best simulation of the air war over Britain and the strategic bombing campaign over Europe that has ever been made.

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Of course, some people should get around to releasing these game toute suite![;)]

ahh come on guys, not fair

not sure anyone knows how much work this really is

which I think we are closer then we had hoped, but we not ready yet

I would say though, that I work my normal job, and that is close to 7 days a week, I work on the game more then I go to work

we getting there :)

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ahh come on guys, not fair

not sure anyone knows how much work this really is

which I think we are closer then we had hoped, but we not ready yet

I would say though, that I work my normal job, and that is close to 7 days a week, I work on the game more then I go to work

we getting there :)

For what it's worth, I know exactly how much work this is, having beta'ed WPO. I was mostly pulling on your leg... Mostly...[:'(]
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One thing, though, could we pretty please not have any plane sides with the undercarriage down in the game? Aside from the Stuka and the Gladiator, they look like warmed-over cr*p...
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T........can it.....we'll get it ready when it is....you have SP turns to do for me first anyhow[;)]
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Don't make me trot out my Cossacks, silly person from Reading...
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Here’s an extract from a book about the Defiant and the Roc called ‘The Turret Fighters’ by Alec Brew, published by Crowood. The Roc saw almost no action, but here is one of the few examples of when it did:

“A well known engagement involved a 2 AACU (Anti-Aircraft Co-operation Unit) ROC, L3085, and Plt Off D. H. Clarke, who had painted a red ‘Saint’ (the Leslie Charteris character) in a red-framed yellow diamond on each side of the rear fuselage of his ‘own’ Roc. On 26 September 1940 he was sent out to search for survivors in the water 15 miles (24 km) south-west of St Catherines Point. With Sergeant Hunt in the gun turret – which, unusually for 2 AACU Rocs, was fully armed – he took off in the late afternoon. As he instituted a square search in the area indicated, he noticed what he thought was a Swordfish also searching about 3 miles (5 km) away.

After about 45 minutes of fruitless search in the gathering gloom, he suddenly noticed that the Swordfish, now only half a mile away, was in fact a twin engined floatplane. Out of curiosity, wondering what it was, he flew towards it: and then suddenly realised it was a Heinkel He 59, a German aircraft probably on the same air-sea rescue task as himself. Unsure as to whether he should open fire on an aircraft on such a humanitarian mission, he flew across its nose with Hunt training his turret at it.

As he did so the German nose gunner opened fire with his 7.9mm machine gun, and Hunt returned fire, his tracer pouring into the Heinkel’s fuselage. After the pandemonium and shock of his first action, Clarke swung on to a parallel course, and re-established communication with Hunt , whose intercom lead had been pulled out. The Heinkel turned for France, skimming the waves. Happily the twin engined bi-plane was even slower than the Roc, with a top speed at sea level of only 137 mph (220 kph), and Clarke was able to gain on his adversary; although he was still faced with the prospect of having to drop a wing to enable Hunt to open fire, even though his propeller was skimming the wave tops.

At 300 yards range he dropped a wing, and Hunt opened fire with another broadside. The Heinkel replied from all three gun positions, nose, dorsal and ventral, a single machine gun in each, but Clarke had to lift the wing after only a few seconds to avoid side-slipping into the sea, causing the last few rounds of Hunt’s burst to shoot harmlessly up into the air. The two aircraft continued these brief exchanges of fire for about 25 minutes, until the coast of France was looming up. Both aircraft were hit, and one of the Heinkel’s gunners stopped firing; but just as Clarke was about to turn away, the Roc was hit in the engine.

It faltered, and Clarke switched to the reserve 17 gal (77 ltr) tank, pulling up and away. Just as he thought he might have to ditch, the Perseus picked up, and he nursed the damaged aircraft back to Gosport. But before he could taxi in the engine stopped, out of fuel. Clarke claimed the Heinkel as ‘Damaged’.

On his return his groundcrew found two incendiary bullets in the main fuel tank, above which he sat. They had entered low down in the petrol, which had extinguished them; slightly higher, in the explosive fuel/air mixture above, and the Roc would have been ‘missing in action’. This action was almost certainly the nearest the Blackburn Roc ever came to destroying a German aircraft in combat”.


It is comforting to know that if the Germans had ever tried a massive low-level attack on Great Britain using twin engined float bi-planes, the Roc was there, ready and waiting to see them off. [:D]
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If you want a fighter even slower than the normal Roc, try the thrid prototype which was fitted with twin floats!
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I want to fly Do335. I got to see one restored Do335. Sweet as all get out. Damn nice plane.

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is it actually operational??
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it may be a lead slead, but it is a sweet lead slead

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No beautiful German Fräulein?[:D]
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Skua and Roc memories: http://freespace.virgin.net/john.dell/Memories.htm

Well worth the read!
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Can I have this?

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if it is a Spitfire, it should be in the Game already

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Will there be already some "Wunderwaffen" in the game database or only the stuff that is really used by the campaign?

Will there be enough slots for new planes, weapons, etc. to make well lets say a 1946 scenario?

Will the engine be able to handle things like SAMs and AAMs?
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some of that is easy and some of it is HARD to explain

if I can work out the details, I can add almost anything I want, and we got enough slots that we could go forward or backward in time

so, wonderweapons could be added, if and when (I love the idea of the Recon plane Von Braum was working on, and offered the high command(a V-2 with wings a cockpit and landing gear, the High command turned it down as it was to good !))

(plus some of the models that most people laff at, when you read the specs and the thinking behind them, they start to make more sense, and overall, all that was needed was more time to work out the details, the selflaunchers for the Natter was very impressive)

the questions is getting things that were or could of been, into the game (The 163 nevered worked the way it should in the game, and most of the others we could add in, would not work either, but just be there)

some of the other stuff, we need to get the programmers some time to look at it and work out how to get it in


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What was/is the problem with the 163?
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well, basicly, the AI does not want to launch them, I believe it is something with how the game works out who and what to intercept with

what triggers the AI to put planes into the air

overall, I would say, the trigger set up, is for Area Defence, and the 163 is pure point defence
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Can I have this?

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I want one of these...

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...one of the few strategic bombers which looks like it comes from Thunderbirds.
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Now that's cool! I want one too.
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