Why do bombs cause huge floatation damage in WitP?
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RE: Why do bombs cause huge floatation damage in WitP?
This begs the question then, how should ships in WitP be sunk?

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RE: Why do bombs cause huge floatation damage in WitP?
I just had an AK take 6 bombs from medium bombers, and still remain afloat.
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RE: Why do bombs cause huge floatation damage in WitP?
ORIGINAL: niceguy2005
This begs the question then, how should ships in WitP be sunk?
Underwater?
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RE: Why do bombs cause huge floatation damage in WitP?
Terminate....with extreme prejudice.ORIGINAL: niceguy2005
This begs the question then, how should ships in WitP be sunk?
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RE: Why do bombs cause huge floatation damage in WitP?
Sheeesh! [8|] Let me elaborate. If the Float damage system is altered, such that bombs don't sink ships. Then what happens when your ship is at 99 sys damge and zero float damage. The player just sails them back to port and repairs them.

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RE: Why do bombs cause huge floatation damage in WitP?
Well actually to the best of my knowledge the bombs on Franklin did not cause any floatation damage, it was only the fire fighting water and as such it was an absolutely controlled flooding, albeit very high in the ships (in the hangar).
The first bomb exploded in the hangar deck but the second penetrated much further into the ship before exploding. Most of the water used to fight the hangar deck fires flowed over the side of the ship. The second hit required that water be poured directly into the ship below the hangar deck.
A list of 13 degrees is not controlled flooding. They were pouring so much water into the ship that list-reducing efforts were ineffective. It wasn't until they had the fires out that they could turn to dewatering the spaces. In the meantime, the USS Pittsburgh took her under tow as they were only 50 miles off the Japanese coast.
Personally, I figure flooding is flooding whether caused directly by the bomb or indirectly due to fire fighting efforts as a result of the bomb hit. And when a ship as large as an aircraft carrier lists 13 degrees, that's one helluva lot of water where it shouldn't be.
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RE: Why do bombs cause huge floatation damage in WitP?
ORIGINAL: rtrapasso
Well, for that matter - torps are also. One torpedo is generally not going to put down a transport, whereas it generally was quickly fatal IRL (at least in the first part of the war, before the Allies started shock-mounting equipment.) Similarly, we will see CAs getting away with 3 torp hits - unheard of in WW2 for CAs. AFAIK, all (but maybe 2 ships) at sea never made it back to port after being hit by more than 2 (working) torps.
Admittedly, ships often did not sink after 3 torps, but couldn't get back to port because they couldn't be towed that fast (back to towing speeds again.) Follow-up attacks would generally sink the cripple before it could get out of danger.
I'm not sure about bombs, but at some point in the war, the US started using a more powerful explosive in their torpedoes. It gave them about twice the explosive power. I can't think of a way to model this in the game.
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RE: Why do bombs cause huge floatation damage in WitP?
I agree with wdolson. US torpedoes should have their effect halved until late in war.
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RE: Why do bombs cause huge floatation damage in WitP?
Not halved. but doubled later on.[;)]
RE: Why do bombs cause huge floatation damage in WitP?
ORIGINAL: Monter_Trismegistos
I agree with wdolson. US torpedoes should have their effect halved until late in war.
(A JFB sarcasm)
I just looked in the editor. The US has one set of torpedoes throughout the war. They have dud rates of 50%, 80%, and 60%. They don't upgrade to anything. The dud problem was partially fixed late in 42 and completely fixed in 1943.
The new explosive was torpex and it appears to only have been used on submarine torpedoes. It was introduced in late 1942. It had 50% more eplosive power than standard TNT. In game terms, the US subs should get a new torpedo starting in early 1943 that has much more eplosive power and a lower dud rate. The dud rate on other US torpedoes should go down to the 10% other torpedoes have around this time.
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RE: Why do bombs cause huge floatation damage in WitP?
I was wondering if the IJN had any large fleet tugs like the USN and started poking around on the web (without much success).
Came across one fairly small (~50 shorter than a USN ATF) tug at the following site:
http://www.seawolfproductions.com/Shipwreck%20Museum/Truk%20Lagoon/index.html
Although the tug info was not really what I was looking for there are a lot of neat photos (then and now), drawings and descriptions of the carrier raids on Truk in early 1944 for anyone that's interested.
Came across one fairly small (~50 shorter than a USN ATF) tug at the following site:
http://www.seawolfproductions.com/Shipwreck%20Museum/Truk%20Lagoon/index.html
Although the tug info was not really what I was looking for there are a lot of neat photos (then and now), drawings and descriptions of the carrier raids on Truk in early 1944 for anyone that's interested.
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RE: Why do bombs cause huge floatation damage in WitP?
I do notice on spence's website that most transports where sunk by a SINGLE aerial torpedo......
Try this in WITP, almost all transports will live when hit in port by a single torp, heck, even at SEA most survive a single hit....
Try this in WITP, almost all transports will live when hit in port by a single torp, heck, even at SEA most survive a single hit....
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RE: Why do bombs cause huge floatation damage in WitP?
ORIGINAL: wild_Willie2
I do notice on spence's website that most transports where sunk by a SINGLE aerial torpedo......
Try this in WITP, almost all transports will live when hit in port by a single torp, heck, even at SEA most survive a single hit....
Heck the Gneisenau was almost sunk by a single torpedo hit in port. Only a massive effort on the part of every support ship in port saved her. A single Beaufort scored a torpedo hit on the stern while she was out of dry dck for a short period.
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RE: Why do bombs cause huge floatation damage in WitP?
Just how many bombs does it take to sink (whatever)...
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Akagi CV 2x Shell 05-28-42 Sunk
16x Bomb, 2x Torp 05-27-42
Hiryu CV 12x Bomb 05-28-42 Sunk
29x Bomb, 2x Shell 05-27-42
1x Bomb 01-28-42
Kaga CV 1x Shell 05-28-42 Sunk
8x Bomb, 1x Shell 05-27-42
Soryu CV 10x Shell 05-28-42 Sunk
5x Bomb 05-27-42
1x Bomb 03-28-42
1x Bomb 01-28-42
Shokaku CV 1x Torp 05-29-42 Sunk
7x Shell 05-28-42
4x Bomb, 1x Torp, 2x Shell05-27-42
Zuikaku CV 1x Torp, 2x Bomb 05-29-42 Sunk
5x Shell 05-28-42
2x Bomb, 1x Torp 05-27-42
Zuiho CVL 1x Bomb 05-03-42
Chitose CS 10x Bomb 05-30-42 Sunk
1x Torp 05-27-42
Kimikawa Maru AV 7x Bomb 05-30-42 Sunk
1x Bomb 05-29-42
Kiyokawa Maru AV 9x Bomb 03-25-42 Sunk
Sanuki Maru AV 7x Shell 04-09-42 Sunk
Sanyo Maru AV 8x Shell 04-11-42 Sunk
Fuso BB 4x Shell 03-15-42
1x Shell 03-04-42
1x Bomb 01-30-42
1x Bomb 01-18-42
2x Bomb 01-03-42
Haruna BB 1x Shell 03-15-42
1x Bomb 02-12-42
1x Torp 12-26-41
1x Torp 12-20-41
Hiei BB 3x Torp, 10x Bomb 05-29-42 Sunk
2x Shell 05-28-42
10x Bomb, 2x Torp 05-27-42
1x Bomb 01-07-42
Hyuga BB 15x Shell 05-09-42
6x Shell 05-04-42
4x Shell 03-15-42
2x Shell 03-04-42
7x Shell 03-01-42
1x Bomb 12-26-41
Ise BB 6x Shell 03-15-42
6x Shell 03-01-42
1x Torp 01-27-42
1x Bomb 01-20-42
1x Torp 01-05-42
Kongo BB 2x Torp 12-28-41
1x Bomb 12-26-41
1x Torp 12-08-41
Kirishima BB 7x Torp, 61x Bomb 05-29-42 Sunk
28x Bomb, 12x Shell 05-27-42
Mutsu BB 14x Bomb, 2x Torp 05-17-42
3x Shell 03-20-42
1x Bomb 03-12-42
3x Shell 02-03-42
1x Bomb 01-16-42
Nagato BB 1x Torp 01-24-42
1x Bomb 01-08-42
Yamashiro BB 2x Torp 01-24-42
Aoba CA 1x Mine 05-01-42
9x Shell 12-13-41
Ashigara CA 3x Shell 04-30-42
Atago CA 1x Bomb 02-12-42
Chikuma CA 1x Bomb 05-27-42
Chokai CA 1x Mine 05-01-42
1x Bomb 01-31-42
Furutaka CA 25x Bomb 03-26-42 Sunk
5x Bomb 03-25-42
Haguro CA 1x Shell 12-08-41
Kako CA 14x Bomb 03-26-42 Sunk
5x Bomb, 2x Torp 03-25-42
Kinugasa CA 6x Bomb, 5x Torp 03-25-42 Sunk
Kumano CA 1x Mine 05-01-42
3x Bomb 01-31-42
1x Bomb 12-18-41
Maya CA 1x Bomb 12-24-41
Mikuma CA 2x Shell 04-22-42
Suzuya CA 1x Bomb 12-26-41
Takao CA 1x Shell 03-20-42
3x Shell 03-04-42
1x Bomb 02-11-42
Tone CA 1x Shell 05-27-42
Isuzu CL 1x Bomb 02-03-42
Kashii CL 1x Shell 02-24-42
8x Shell, 1x Bomb 02-23-42
Kashima CL 4x Shell 12-10-41
Katori CL 14x Bomb 04-26-42 Sunk
5x Bomb, 25x Shell 04-25-42
30x Shell 01-05-42
4x Shell 12-07-41
Kiso CL 2x Shell, 2x Torp 05-05-42 Sunk
14x Bomb 05-04-42
Kitakami CL 2x Bomb 01-29-42
Kuma CL 6x Shell, 1x Torp 05-05-42 Sunk
7x Bomb 05-04-42
Natori CL 2x Bomb 12-27-41
Naka CL 13x Bomb 05-05-42
5x Bomb 05-04-42
Oi CL 2x Shell 05-27-42
Sendai CL 1x Bomb 03-03-42
2x Bomb 02-25-42
1x Bomb 01-02-42
Tama CL 18x Shell 05-05-42 Sunk
5x Bomb 05-04-42
Tatsuta CL 5x Shell 12-26-41 Sunk
11x Shell 12-23-41
Tenryu CL 8x Shell, 1x Torp 12-23-41 Sunk
12x Shell 12-07-41
Yubari CL 1x Bomb, 6x Shell 12-26-41 Sunk
10x Shell 12-23-41
Yura CL 1x Torp 01-29-42
Akatsuki DD 1x Torp 01-02-42
Akikaze DD 5x Bomb 05-17-42 Sunk
Amagiri DD 4x Shell 02-01-42 Sunk
Amatsukaze DD 1x Shell, 1x Torp 05-05-42 Sunk
4x Bomb 05-04-42
Arare DD 5x Bomb 05-30-42 Sunk
Arashi DD 1x Torp 02-04-42 Sunk
3x Shell 02-01-42
Ariake DD 3x Shell 04-30-42
Asakaze DD 2x Torp 05-17-42 Sunk
Asanagi DD 15x Shell 01-09-42 Sunk
Asashio DD 1x Shell 04-30-42
Fuyo DD 4x Bomb 05-04-42 Sunk
Hagikaze DD 1x Bomb 02-26-42
1x Bomb 12-19-41
Hakaze DD 6x Bomb 05-17-42 Sunk
Hatakaze DD 2x Bomb 05-17-42
Hatsukari DD 1x Bomb 05-17-42
Harusame DD 3x Shell 04-30-42
Hayabusa DD 1x Bomb 02-04-42
5x Shell 02-01-42
Hayate DD 7x Shell 12-23-41 Sunk
Kamo DD 9x Shell 02-01-42 Sunk
Kari DD 9x Shell 02-01-42 Sunk
Kasasagi DD 1x Shell 02-01-42
Kasumi DD 9x Shell 05-28-42 Sunk
2x Shell 05-27-42
13x Shell 05-26-42
Kawakaze DD 7x Shell 05-28-42 Sunk
15x Shell 05-26-42
Kuretake DD 1x Bomb 05-05-42
Maikaze DD 1x Shell 02-01-42
Manazuru DD 1x Torp 05-17-42 Sunk
Mikazuki DD 7x Shell 05-28-42 Sunk
7x Shell 05-26-42
Minegumo DD 3x Shell 04-30-42
Minekaze DD 2x Bomb 05-17-42
Mochizuki DD 13x Shell 12-23-41 Sunk
Murasame DD 11x Shell 04-30-42
Mutsuki DD 9x Shell 12-07-41 Sunk
Nagatsuki DD 1x Torp 05-17-42
Natsugumo DD 6x Shell 04-30-42 Sunk
Nokaze DD 4x Bomb 05-17-42 Sunk
Numakaze DD 1x Bomb 01-22-42
Oite DD 9x Shell 12-23-41 Sunk
Oshio DD 2x Torp 01-02-42 Sunk
Otori DD 1x Torp 12-10-41
Oyashio DD 7x Shell 04-30-42
1x Shell 04-21-42
5x Shell 12-07-41
Sagiri DD 2x Shell 04-30-42
Satsuki DD 4x Bomb, 2x Torp 05-17-42 Sunk
Sawakaze DD 3x Shell 12-17-41
Shikinami DD 8x Shell 02-01-42 Sunk
Shiokaze DD 1x Torp 01-14-42 Sunk
1x Shell 12-24-41
Shirakumo DD 5x Shell 02-01-42
Shirayuki DD 1x Mine 02-01-42
Tachikaze DD 3x Shell 12-17-41
Tanikaze DD 3x Bomb 05-28-42 Sunk
6x Shell, 1x Torp 05-27-42
Tomozuru DD 3x Torp 05-17-42 Sunk
Tsuga DD 1x Torp 05-17-42 Sunk
Umikaze DD 2x Shell 04-30-42
Urakaze DD 10x Bomb 05-30-42 Sunk
Uranami DD 1x Bomb 06-01-42
1x Torp 05-10-42
Uzuki DD 2x Bomb 03-25-42 Sunk
Wakatake DD 4x Bomb 01-17-42 Sunk
Yamakaze DD 1x Shell 04-30-42
Yayoi DD 20x Shell 12-23-41 Sunk
Yugure DD 3x Shell 12-17-41
Yukaze DD 3x Bomb 05-17-42 Sunk
Yunagi DD 24x Shell 01-09-42 Sunk
Yuzuki DD 1x Bomb 05-17-42
Chitose Maru PG 1x Bomb 02-08-42
Choan Maru #2 PG 4x Shell 12-09-41
Chokai Maru PG 4x Shell 12-10-41 Sunk
Chosa Maru PG 10x Shell 02-23-42
Daido Maru PG 11x Shell 12-10-41 Sunk
Eifuku Maru PG 29x Shell 02-23-42
Fukui Maru PG 2x Shell 02-18-42
2x Shell 12-10-41
Kiso Maru PG 1x Bomb 03-12-42
Koei Maru PG 1x Shell 12-09-41
Kyo Maru #8 PG 9x Shell 12-22-41 Sunk
Nagata Maru PG 2x Shell 01-05-42 Sunk
Nikkai Maru PG 1x Bomb 06-03-42 Sunk
3x Bomb 06-01-42
Santos Maru PG 7x Shell 01-05-42 Sunk
Shoei Maru PG 1x Shell 01-03-42
Shosei Maru PG 12x Shell 04-26-42 Sunk
Takunan Maru #3 PG 1x Bomb 12-13-41
Toyotsu Maru PG 2x Shell 01-05-42
Uji PG 12x Shell 02-23-42
Yachiyo Maru PG 1x Torp 05-20-42
Ch 2 PC 1x Torp 05-27-42 Sunk
Ch 3 PC 8x Shell 05-31-42 Sunk
Ch 5 PC 5x Shell 04-26-42 Sunk
Ch 7 PC 8x Shell 05-29-42 Sunk
Ch 8 PC 1x Bomb, 3x Shell 05-31-42 Sunk
4x Shell 05-29-42
Ch 11 PC 21x Shell 05-02-42 Sunk
Ch 18 PC 1x Bomb 03-12-42
Fumi Maru #3 PC 7x Shell, 1x Torp 01-05-42 Sunk
Gamitsu Maru #1 PC 1x Mine 02-07-42 Sunk
2x Shell 12-10-41
1x Shell 12-09-41
Hachijo PC 5x Bomb 06-02-42 Sunk
1x Bomb, 2x Shell 05-30-42
Kyo Maru #6 PC 33x Shell 01-05-42 Sunk
Kyo Maru #7 PC 1x Bomb 01-06-42 Sunk
6x Shell 01-05-42
Kyo Maru #12 PC 2x Torp 05-27-42 Sunk
Kyo Maru #13 PC 1x Torp 05-27-42 Sunk
Shimushu PC 10x Shell, 1x Torp 06-01-42 Sunk
Shonan Maru #1 PC 1x Torp 05-27-42 Sunk
Shonon Maru #3 PC 1x Shell 01-05-42
Shonon Maru #10 PC 2x Shell 01-05-42
Shonon Maru #11 PC 9x Shell 01-05-42 Sunk
Shonon Maru #15 PC 1x Shell, 1x Torp 05-27-42 Sunk
Showa Maru #5 PC 1x Torp 12-18-41 Sunk
1x Shell 12-10-41
4x Shell 12-09-41
Sonan Maru #6 PC 2x Shell 01-03-42
Takuna Maru #6 PC 9x Shell 01-05-42 Sunk
Gyoraitei #1 PT 2x Shell 05-29-42 Sunk
Gyoraitei #2 PT 2x Shell 04-30-42 Sunk
Gyoraitei #3 PT 4x Shell 04-17-42 Sunk
Gyoraitei #4 PT 5x Shell 04-21-42 Sunk
Gyoraitei #5 PT 8x Shell 04-30-42 Sunk
5x Shell 04-21-42
Gyoraitei #6 PT 1x Shell 04-30-42
Okinoshima ML 6x Shell 01-09-42 Sunk
Tokiwa ML 2x Shell 01-16-42 Sunk
3x Shell 01-11-42
Tsugaru ML 3x Shell 01-09-42 Sunk
Banshu Maru #52 MSW 15x Shell 12-08-41 Sunk
Banshu Maru #56 MSW 5x Shell 12-08-41 Sunk
Choun Maru #21 MSW 3x Bomb, 3x Shell 05-28-42 Sunk
Hakata Maru #7 MSW 1x Shell, 1x Torp 05-27-42 Sunk
Himejima Maru MSW 3x Bomb 01-06-42 Sunk
1x Bomb 01-05-42
Hinode Maru #17 MSW 4x Bomb 05-28-42 Sunk
Kaiyo Maru #3 MSW 2x Bomb, 1x Torp 01-25-42 Sunk
Kyo Maru #3 MSW 3x Bomb 01-11-42 Sunk
1x Bomb 01-10-42
Musashi Maru MSW 1x Bomb 05-01-42
Tasei Maru MSW 2x Shell 05-31-42 Sunk
1x Bomb 05-30-42
Tokuho Maru #5 MSW 5x Bomb 05-30-42 Sunk
Toshi Maru #1 MSW 1x Torp 03-22-42
Wa 3 MSW 2x Torp 03-22-42
W.2 MSW 1x Mine 02-09-42 Sunk
1x Shell 12-07-41
W.10 MSW 1x Bomb 01-17-42
W.15 MSW 1x Torp 05-27-42 Sunk
I-1 SS 1x DC 12-10-41 Sunk
I-2 SS 11x DC 04-02-42 Sunk
I-3 SS 4x DC 12-31-41 Sunk
I-9 SS 14x DC 06-04-42
I-10 SS 2x DC 03-14-42 Sunk
I-19 SS 5x DC 02-27-42 Sunk
I-21 SS 3x DC 12-17-41 Sunk
I-25 SS 6x DC 04-25-42
I-156 SS 4x DC 01-01-42 Sunk
I-157 SS 1x DC 12-26-41
I-158 SS 5x DC 12-09-41 Sunk
I-162 SS 2x DC 12-28-41 Sunk
I-165 SS 3x DC 01-04-42 Sunk
I-166 SS 3x DC 12-16-41 Sunk
Erimo AO 1x Bomb 01-31-42
1x Bomb 01-10-42
Akane Maru TK 1x Bomb 01-10-42
1x Bomb 12-27-41
Arima Maru TK 1x Bomb 01-08-42
Chiyoda Maru TK 1x Bomb 01-08-42
Gen'yo Maru TK 1x Torp 03-18-42
Kiyo Maru TK 1x Bomb 03-21-42 Sunk
1x Bomb 03-09-42
1x Bomb 01-10-42
1x Bomb 01-05-42
1x Bomb 12-31-41
Kyokuto Maru TK 1x Bomb 01-25-42
Nichiei Maru TK 1x Bomb 01-24-42
Nichirin Maru TK 1x Torp 01-25-42
Nikkoku Maru TK 1x Bomb 12-08-41
Shoyo Maru TK 1x Bomb 12-27-41
Africa Maru AP 2x Bomb 03-16-42
1x Bomb 02-03-42
Aikoku Maru AP 24x Shell 05-28-42 Sunk
2x Shell 05-27-42
Akashisan Maru AP 5x Bomb 06-01-42 Sunk
3x Bomb 05-31-42
1x Mine 05-26-42
Amakasu Maru #1 AP 1x Bomb 05-16-42
Amakusa Maru AP 3x Mine 03-21-42 Sunk
Anrugu Maru AP 1x Bomb 05-16-42
Arabia Maru AP 7x Bomb 05-31-42 Sunk
1x Bomb 05-30-42
Aratama Maru AP 2x Bomb 06-02-42
1x Bomb 06-01-42
11x Shell 05-29-42
1x Shell 05-28-42
2x Shell 02-18-42
Argentina Maru AP 40 Shell, 1x Torp 05-27-42 Sunk
Astuga Maru AP 1x Shell 12-10-41 Sunk
2x Torp, 2x Shell 12-09-41
Atsuta Maru AP 2x Bomb 12-30-41
1x Shell 12-10-41
1x Shell 12-09-41
Buenos Aires Maru AP 1x Bomb 12-21-41
Choko Maru AP 1x Torp 12-12-41
1x Bomb 12-11-41
Chichibu Maru AP 1x Torp, 3x Bomb 05-16-42 Sunk
Chifuku Maru AP 25x Shell 01-05-42 Sunk
Daifuku Maru AP 3x Shell 12-27-41
Daihachikyo Maru AP 3x Bomb, 1x Torp 06-01-42 Sunk
Daijukyo Maru AP 9x Bomb 05-31-42 Sunk
Dainiunyo Maru AP 3x Bomb 06-03-42 Sunk
1x Torp 06-01-42
Daitei Maru AP 1x Bomb 01-05-42
1x Bomb 12-10-41
Denmark Maru AP 5x Bomb, 1x Torp 05-30-42
1x Shell 05-28-42
Eihuku Maru AP 8x Shell 05-29-42 Sunk
1x Bomb, 2x Shell 05-28-42
1x Bomb 02-22-42
Eiko Maru AP 1x Bomb 01-27-42
Fusemi Maru AP 4x Shell 12-27-41
Ginyo Maru AP 1x Bomb 05-30-42 Sunk
1x Bomb, 11x Shell 05-29-42
2x Shell 05-28-42
1x Shell 05-27-42
Giyu Maru AP 8x Shell, 1x Torp 12-13-41 Sunk
Gosei Maru AP 2x Torp, 2x Bomb 12-13-41 Sunk
Gotake Maru AP 1x Bomb 03-12-42
Haguro Maru AP 2x Bomb 12-14-41
Haisho Maru AP 1x Bomb 12-09-41
Hakka Maru AP 3x Bomb 12-11-41 Sunk
1x Bomb 12-10-41
Hakutetsu Maru #13 AP 7x Shell 12-11-41 Sunk
AP 1x Bomb 12-09-41
Haruna Maru AP 1x Bomb, 13x Shell 05-27-42 Sunk
Hayo Maru AP 1x Bomb 03-12-42
Heian Maru AP 16x Shell 06-01-42 Sunk
1x Torp 05-30-42
3x Shell 05-29-42
Heiku Maru AP 1x Torp 01-19-42 Sunk
1x Bomb 12-31-41
Heiwa Maru AP 1x Torp, 1x Bomb 12-30-41
4x Shell 12-09-41
Heizan Maru AP 1x Shell, 2x Torp 01-02-42 Sunk
Hikade Maru AP 2x Bomb 03-12-42 Sunk
2x Bomb 12-11-41
Hokuhi Maru AP 2x Torp 12-13-41
1x Bomb 12-10-41
Hokusho Maru AP 1x Bomb 02-27-42
Horai Maru AP 4x Bomb 02-23-42 Sunk
1x Torp 12-18-41
1x Shell 12-10-41
2x Shell 12-09-41
Horaisan Maru AP 3x Shell 02-01-42
Humburugu Maru AP 2x Bomb 12-31-41 Sunk
Iburi Maru AP 5x Shell 05-29-42 Sunk
1x Torp 05-27-42
Igasa Maru AP 6x Bomb 01-12-42 Sunk
2x Bomb 12-25-41
Jinsai Maru AP 4x Bomb 03-04-42 Sunk
Josho Maru AP 1x Bomb 12-11-41
Jouban Maru AP 2x Torp 06-02-42 Sunk
5x Bomb 06-01-42
1x Shell 05-28-42
Juko Maru AP 6x Bomb 06-02-42 Sunk
4x Bomb 06-01-42
1x Bomb 05-31-42
1x Shell 05-28-42
2x Shell 05-26-42
Kagi Maru AP 3x Shell, 1x Torp 06-02-42 Sunk
7x Bomb 06-01-42
2x Bomb 05-31-42
Kaifuku Maru AP 2x Bomb 01-01-42
Kaika Maru AP 2x Shell 12-08-41
Kaiko Maru AP 1x Bomb 12-09-41
Kaishi Maru AP 1x Torp 04-15-42
Kamakura Maru AP 18x Shell, 2x Torp 05-31-42 Sunk
2x Bomb 05-30-42
2x Shell 05-29-42
Kamo Maru AP 1x Bomb 05-01-42
1x Bomb 01-15-42
Kansan Maru AP 4x Torp 05-31-42 Sunk
1x Shell 05-28-42
Kasima Maru AP 1x Bomb 01-15-42
Katori Maru AP 3x Shell 12-08-41
Keisyo Maru AP 24x Shell 05-28-42 Sunk
Keiyo Maru AP 2x Bomb 05-30-42 Sunk
8x Shell 05-28-42
1x Bomb 05-27-42
Keizan Maru AP 1x Torp 12-16-41
Kiko Maru AP 2x Torp 01-14-42 Sunk
1x Torp 01-12-42
Kimishima Maru AP 3x Bomb 12-25-41 Sunk
Kinryu Maru AP 2x Shell 12-07-41
Koei Maru AP 2x Torp, 1x Shell 05-29-42 Sunk
Kogane Maru AP 10x Shell, 1x Torp 06-01-42 Sunk
1x Torp 05-30-42
Kogyo Maru AP 1x Bomb 02-22-42
Kokuryu Maru AP 5x Bomb 03-04-42 Sunk
Konron Maru AP 24x Shell, 1x Torp 05-31-42 Sunk
1x Bomb 05-30-42
Konsan Maru AP 8x Shell 05-28-42 Sunk
Konzan Maru AP 2x Shell, 1x Torp 05-31-42 Sunk
6x Bomb 05-30-42
2x Shell 05-29-42
Koshu Maru #3 AP 4x Shell, 2x Bomb 12-08-41
Kotobuki Maru #3 AP 6x Shell 12-07-41
Kowa Maru AP 21x Shell 05-31-42 Sunk
3x Bomb 05-30-42
1x Torp 05-29-42
Kunimitsu Maru AP 16x Shell 05-28-42 Sunk
Kuraido Maru AP 4x Bomb 05-31-42 Sunk
3x Bomb 05-30-42
3x Shell 05-28-42
Kuretake Maru AP 1x Torp 05-07-42
Kuretake Maru AP 1x Torp 05-07-42
1x Bomb 03-30-42
1x Bomb 02-03-42
Kyushu Maru AP 1x Torp 01-06-42
1x Torp 12-14-41
La Plata Maru AP 18x Shell 05-28-42 Sunk
1x Bomb 05-27-42
Marsue Maru AP 1x Bomb 06-01-42 Sunk
3x Bomb, 1x Torp 05-31-42
1x Bomb 05-30-42
1x Shell 05-28-42
1x Shell 05-26-42
Meikai Maru AP 19x Shell 06-01-42 Sunk
1x Bomb 05-31-42
4x Shell 05-29-42
Meiten Maru AP 1x Shell 12-08-41
Meiu Maru AP 1x Shell 12-08-41
Meizan Maru AP 9x Shell, 1x Torp 06-02-42 Sunk
3x Shell, 1x Bomb 06-01-42
Midori Maru AP 3x Torp 01-11-42 Sunk
3x Bomb 12-11-41
Miike Maru AP 1x Bomb 02-22-42
Mikage Maru #2 AP 1x Torp 12-10-41 Sunk
Miyako Maru AP 24x Shell 05-31-42 Sunk
Mizuho Maru AP 1x Bomb 01-12-42
Monji Maru AP 8x Bomb 05-31-42 Sunk
14x Shell 05-29-42
3x Shell 05-26-42
Montevideo Maru AP 2x Bomb 06-01-42 Sunk
6x Bomb, 1x Torp 05-31-42
Nachisan Maru AP 2x Bomb 05-30-42 Sunk
2x Shell 05-29-42
2x Bomb 05-27-42
Nagano Maru AP 13x Shell 05-28-42 Sunk
3x Bomb 05-27-42
Nagaragawa Maru AP 1x Bomb, 1x Shell, 2x Torp05-31-42 Sunk
2x Shell 05-29-42
1x Bomb 05-27-42
Nekka Maru AP 8x Shell, 2x Torp 05-28-42 Sunk
Nichiai Maru AP 2x Bomb 06-02-42 Sunk
1x Torp 05-31-42
2x Shell 05-29-42
Nichibi Maru AP 3x Bomb 04-01-42 Sunk
2x Bomb 03-30-42
1x Bomb 03-25-42
1x Bomb 03-24-42
3x Bomb 03-22-42
Nichiran Maru AP 2x Shell 12-08-41
Nichiro Maru AP 2x Bomb 05-30-42 Sunk
6x Shell 05-28-42
Niitaka Maru AP 21x Shell 06-02-42 Sunk
2x Bomb 06-01-42
1x Shell 05-29-42
Oyo Maru AP 1x Bomb 03-03-42
Palao Maru AP 2x Shell 12-08-41
Reiyo Maru AP 3x Torp 05-29-42 Sunk
9x Shell 05-28-42
Ronsan Maru AP 3x Bomb 06-01-42 Sunk
1x Bomb 05-31-42
1x Bomb 05-30-42
1x Shell 05-29-42
Ryoyo Maru AP 2x Bomb, 6x Shell, 1x Torp05-31-42 Sunk
1x Bomb 02-18-42
1x Shell 12-27-41
Ryugi Maru AP 3x Bomb, 3x Torp 05-30-42 Sunk
1x Torp 05-27-42
1x Shell 12-27-41
Ryuyo Maru AP 1x Torpedo 06-02-42 Sunk
2x Bomb 06-01-42
5x Bomb 05-30-42
Saipan Maru AP 1x Torp 05-30-42 Sunk
16x Shell 05-28-42
Seattle Maru AP 3x Bomb 05-30-42 Sunk
4x Shell 05-28-42
5x Shell 05-26-42
Sekko Maru AP 1x Torp 05-31-42 Sunk
1x Bomb 05-30-42
Shintoku Maru AP 1x Mine 03-11-42
3x Shell 12-07-41
Shinyo Maru AP 3x Torp 05-27-42 Sunk
Shirashika Maru AP 1x Bomb 03-30-42
Shirogane Maru AP 1x Bomb 05-03-42
1x Bomb 02-08-42
Shofuku Maru AP 2x Bomb 12-25-41
1x Bomb 12-23-41
Shuko Maru AP 11x Shell, 1x Torp 12-22-41 Sunk
Sumiyoshi Maru AP 1x Bomb 02-21-42
Sunten Maru AP 5x Bomb 12-11-41
3x Bomb 12-10-41
1x Torp 12-09-41
Suwa Maru AP 3x Shell 05-29-42 Sunk
11x Shell 05-28-42
2x Bomb 05-27-42
Tafuku Maru AP 6x Bomb 05-30-42
2x Shell 05-28-42
1x Bomb 12-29-41
Taian Maru AP 2x Torp, 10x Shell 05-29-42 Sunk
4x Shell 05-28-42
Taigen Maru AP 9x Shell 05-28-42 Sunk
6x Shell 05-27-42
Taiho Maru AP 1x Torp 03-14-42 Sunk
1x Bomb 03-12-42
Takuei Maru AP 4x Shell 06-01-42 Sunk
1x Bomb 05-31-42
6x Shell 05-28-42
Takunan Maru AP 13x Shell, 1x Torp 06-01-42 Sunk
2x Shell 05-31-42
Tamaki Maru AP 6x Shell 05-31-42 Sunk
8x Shell 05-29-42
Tamatsu Maru AP 7x Bomb 05-28-42 Sunk
Tamashima Maru AP 1x Bomb 02-26-42
Tarushima Maru AP 2x Bomb 01-05-42 Sunk
Tateyama Maru AP 22x Shell 06-02-42 Sunk
1x Bomb 06-01-42
1x Shell 05-29-42
Tatsujin Maru AP 3x Bomb 01-09-42 Sunk
1x Bomb 01-05-42
1x Bomb 12-27-41
Tatuharu Maru AP 6x Shell 02-18-42 Sunk
Tatuwa Maru AP 56x Shell, 2x Torp 12-17-41 Sunk
3x Bomb 12-13-41
Teia Maru AP 1x Mine 03-20-42
Teikei Maru AP 17x Shell 05-28-42 Sunk
1x Bomb 05-27-42
Teiun Maru AP 1x Bomb 12-09-41
Teizui Maru AP 1x Bomb 12-10-41
Tempei Maru AP 8x Shell 05-31-42 Sunk
2x Torp 05-30-42
2x Shell 05-29-42
Tenryu Maru AP 3x Bomb 03-04-42 Sunk
Tenyo Maru AP 3x Shell 12-08-41
Tenran Maru AP 2x Torp 03-22-42
Tenzan Maru AP 1x Shell 12-08-41
Terukuni Maru AP 2x Shell 12-08-41
Tientsin Maru AP 1x Bomb 03-12-42
Toko Maru AP 10x Shell 05-31-42 Sunk
2x Bomb 05-30-42
1x Shell 05-29-42
5x Shell 05-28-42
Toko Maru #2 AP 20x Shell 05-28-42 Sunk
Tonan Maru AP 8x Bomb 06-01-42 Sunk
1x Bomb 05-31-42
2x Shell 05-29-42
1x Bomb 12-13-41
Tonei Maru AP 4x Bomb 05-31-42 Sunk
2x Shell 05-29-42
Toyo Maru #2 AP 1x Bomb 12-28-41
Tsuiba Maru AP 5x Shell 05-31-42 Sunk
6x Shell 05-28-42
Tsunushima Maru AP 3x Shell 06-01-42 Sunk
2x Bomb 05-31-42
3x Bomb 05-30-42
Tsuruga Maru AP 2x Torp 05-27-42 Sunk
Tsuyama Maru AP 1x Bomb 01-15-42
Tutukami Maru AP 2x Shell 12-08-41
Ueizuru Maru AP 3x Shell 05-29-42 Sunk
2x Torp 05-27-42
Uji Maru AP 3x Shell 01-05-42
Ujigawa Maru AP 5x Shell, 2x Torp 03-14-42 Sunk
Ume Maru AP 2x Torp 12-10-41
Unkai Maru #3 AP 18x Shell 05-31-42 Sunk
1x Bomb 05-30-42
6x Shell 05-29-42
Unkai Maru #6 AP 26x Shell 06-01-42 Sunk
Ural Maru AP 14x Shell, 2x Torp 06-02-42 sunk
1x Bomb 06-01-42
Victoria Maru AP 27x Shell 05-29-42 Sunk
12x Shell 05-28-42
Yamafuku Maru AP 2x Bomb 03-11-42 Sunk
2x Torp 03-10-42
2x Bomb 01-31-42
Yamagata Maru AP 1x Bomb 12-09-41
Yamakisan Maru AP 3x Shell 05-31-42 Sunk
1x Bomb 05-30-42
1x Torp 05-27-42
Yamakuni Maru AP 1x Bomb 02-26-42
Yasukuni Maru AP 1x Bomb 01-17-42
Yawata Maru AP 1x Bomb 05-30-42 Sunk
21x Shell 05-29-42
Yokohama Maru AP 4x Bomb 05-30-42 Sunk
6x Shell 05-26-42
Yoshino Maru AP 6x Shell 05-28-42 Sunk
3x Bomb 05-27-42
Yoshinogawa Maru AP 3x Shell 05-29-42 Sunk
3x Bomb, 2x Shell 05-28-42
15x Shell 02-24-42
Yuzan Maru AP 14x Shell 02-24-42
Zenoa Maru AP 14x Shell, 1x Torp 05-27-42 Sunk
Zinzan Maru AP 16x Shell, 1x Torp 06-02-42 sunk
1x Bomb 06-01-42
1x Bomb 05-30-42
Zukai Maru AP 1x Torp, 2x Shell 05-29-42 Sunk
1x Torp 05-27-42
Akagane Maru AK 4x Shell 12-11-41 Sunk
1x Bomb 12-09-41
Akagisan Maru AK 5x Shell 04-26-42
Akita Maru AK 1x Bomb 12-27-41
Aobasan Maru AK 2x Bomb 12-11-41
Brazil Maru AK 3x Bomb 06-02-42 Sunk
4x Bomb 06-01-42
2x Shell 05-29-42
1x Shell 05-28-42
7x Shell 05-26-42
Canton Maru AK 1x Shell 01-05-42
China Maru AK 4x Bomb 06-02-42 Sunk
1x Bomb 05-31-42
1x Bomb, 6x Shell 05-29-42
3x Shell 05-26-42
Dakar Maru AK 2x Shell 05-02-42 Sunk
Durban Maru AK 70x Shell 05-02-42 Sunk
Ehime Maru AK 1x Bomb 02-17-42
Hakonesan Maru AK 17x Shell 12-11-41 Sunk
4x Shell 12-09-41
1x Bomb 12-08-41
Hakubasan Maru AK 1x Bomb 12-11-41 Sunk
1x Shell 12-09-41
Hirokawa Maru AK 2x Bomb 01-10-42 Sunk
5x Shell 01-05-42
Houn Maru AK 1x Torp 12-11-41
2x Bomb, 1x Shell 12-09-41
Johore Maru AK 1x Bomb 02-17-42
Kongo Maru AK 4x Shell 01-05-42 Sunk
Mansei Maru AK 1x Shell 12-08-41
Matue Maru AK 1x Torp 02-08-42
Nanman Maru AK 1x Bomb 02-22-42
Pacific Maru AK 1x Bomb 01-17-42
Ryoka Maru AK 2x Bomb 12-08-41 Sunk
Ryujin Maru AK 2x Bomb 02-23-42 Sunk
1x Bomb 02-19-42
Sagara Maru AK 2x Torp 12-15-41 Sunk
1x Torp, 6x Bomb 12-14-41
2x Bomb 12-13-41
1x Bomb 12-09-41
Sanuki Maru AK 1x Bomb 02-14-42
Seitai Maru AK 1x Torp 12-13-41 Sunk
1x Bomb 12-08-41
Sydney Maru AK 2x Shell 12-08-41
Tenposan Maru AK 4x Shell 01-05-42 Sunk
Tetsuzan Maru AK 2x Shell 12-09-41 Sunk
4x Bomb 12-08-41
Tien Lee AK 1x Torp 04-19-42
Usa Maru AK 13x Shell 01-05-42 Sunk
Venice Maru AK 3x Bomb, 3x Torp 05-31-42 Sunk
Yagi Maru AK 2x Bomb 12-08-41
AG-103 AG 1x Shell 04-27-42 Sunk
AG-358 AG 3x Shell 04-10-42 Sunk
AG-363 AG 4x Shell 04-25-42 Sunk
AG-364 AG 2x Shell 04-25-42 Sunk
AG-365 AG 1x Shell 04-25-42 Sunk
AG-366 AG 1x Shell 04-20-42 Sunk
AG-367 AG 1x Shell 04-25-42 Sunk
AG-368 AG 2x Shell 04-25-42 Sunk
AG-369 AG 1x Shell 04-25-42 Sunk
AG-370 AG 1x Shell 04-25-42 Sunk
AG-373 AG 2x Shell 04-20-42 Sunk
AG-374 AG 2x Shell 04-25-42 Sunk
AG-375 AG 3x Shell 04-23-42 Sunk
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bradfordkay
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RE: Why do bombs cause huge floatation damage in WitP?
Monter wrote: "US torpedoes should have their effect halved until late in war. "
Let's see... half of zero is what (sure seems to be the effect of early war Mk 14s!)? [;)]
Feinder, I was getting ready to ask you where the h*** you got those sinking dates when I realized that it must be from an AAR, not history... boy, do I feel stupid (okay, so it's like any other day...).
Let's see... half of zero is what (sure seems to be the effect of early war Mk 14s!)? [;)]
Feinder, I was getting ready to ask you where the h*** you got those sinking dates when I realized that it must be from an AAR, not history... boy, do I feel stupid (okay, so it's like any other day...).
fair winds,
Brad
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RE: Why do bombs cause huge floatation damage in WitP?
Who was the hapless Japanese victim? Hopefully it was the AI because I can't imagine how crappy a player must be to get walloped like that as Japan.[:D][X(]


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RE: Why do bombs cause huge floatation damage in WitP?
ORIGINAL: spence
I was wondering if the IJN had any large fleet tugs like the USN and started poking around on the web (without much success).
Came across one fairly small (~50 shorter than a USN ATF) tug at the following site:
http://www.seawolfproductions.com/Shipwreck%20Museum/Truk%20Lagoon/index.html
Although the tug info was not really what I was looking for there are a lot of neat photos (then and now), drawings and descriptions of the carrier raids on Truk in early 1944 for anyone that's interested.
Watts lists the following Classes and vessels as Salvage tugs as opposed to Salvage Vessels if there is a difference:
The Miura class:
Hanashima
Miura
Yumihari
Hashima Class:
Futagami
Hasima
Tategami class:
Nagura
Ojima
Tategami
Under the heading Tugs
"From 1930 to the end of the war many tugs were built for the imperial japanese Navy. These fall into 4 categories. The 100 ton types powered by 240 HP engines producing a speed of 10 knots were buitl between 1930 and 1945. A total of 70 were built and 10 more were" in the process at the end of the war.
"The next type was larger being of 150 tons. Powered by a 400 HP ebngine at 10 knots, 85 were built between 1932 and 1945."
The 300 ton type were buitl between 1939 and 1944 Only 25 were built
The final 400 ton type were built btween 1942 and 1944. Only 3 had been completed.
In addition Watts lists 8 other vessels as tugs:
No 1434
No 1447, ex Carmen Moller, ex-Taikoo
No 1448, ex- Ready Moller
No 1449, ex-Visayas
Kurushima, ex Christine Moller
SaruHashi Maru, ex-Sars
Kurihasashi Maru, ex-Herakles
Yodohashi Maru, ex Sylatch
Here's a link to:
Treespider's Grand Campaign of DBB
"It is not the critic who counts, .... The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena..." T. Roosevelt, Paris, 1910
Treespider's Grand Campaign of DBB
"It is not the critic who counts, .... The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena..." T. Roosevelt, Paris, 1910
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RE: Why do bombs cause huge floatation damage in WitP?
I'm sorry for writing in bold but Feinder's post overlaps all others all others
.
Anyway Chez, you provided your own counterpoint here:
"A list of 13 degrees is not controlled flooding. " Then you say this: "It wasn't until they had the fires out that they could turn to dewatering the spaces." Com'n mate, if they could turn to just simply dewater spaces than it must have been contolled flooding
! And I'm fairly sure no half sane DC officer would let in so much water os as to risk a capsizing...
Also you said earlier that even in this case the flooding was about 10%, noit the 40-50% usually seen in WitP...
And to niceguy: of course ships should be sunk by TORPEDOES or mines, but for sure 30kton CVs and even larger BBs should not be sunk by bombs only....
Anyway Chez, you provided your own counterpoint here:
"A list of 13 degrees is not controlled flooding. " Then you say this: "It wasn't until they had the fires out that they could turn to dewatering the spaces." Com'n mate, if they could turn to just simply dewater spaces than it must have been contolled flooding
Also you said earlier that even in this case the flooding was about 10%, noit the 40-50% usually seen in WitP...
And to niceguy: of course ships should be sunk by TORPEDOES or mines, but for sure 30kton CVs and even larger BBs should not be sunk by bombs only....
RE: Why do bombs cause huge floatation damage in WitP?
It is most certainly PBEM vs. Human. I keep track of everything. I can review to see when a ship was last hit (and with what) to approximate how badly it was hurt, and how long it will be in the yards.
Midway can happen to anyone. In this case, it happend -TO- my opponent during the last week of May '42. For my troubles, I lost HMS Indy and about 4x CLs and handful of DDs.
I had a similarly bad day vs. Erstad, and lost 7(!) Allied CVs in Oct. '42, for nary a single hit on KB.
Don't be so quick to judge Ronminator.
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And here was my bad day(s) vs. Erstad.
Midway can happen to anyone. In this case, it happend -TO- my opponent during the last week of May '42. For my troubles, I lost HMS Indy and about 4x CLs and handful of DDs.
I had a similarly bad day vs. Erstad, and lost 7(!) Allied CVs in Oct. '42, for nary a single hit on KB.
Don't be so quick to judge Ronminator.
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And here was my bad day(s) vs. Erstad.
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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 10/18/42
Day Air attack on TF at 85,99
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 132
A6M3 Zero x 22
Allied aircraft
F4F-4 Wildcat x 4
SBD Dauntless x 28
TBF Avenger x 15
Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged
Allied aircraft losses
F4F-4 Wildcat: 4 destroyed
SBD Dauntless: 28 destroyed
TBF Avenger: 15 destroyed
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Day Air attack on TF at 85,99
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 131
A6M3 Zero x 22
Allied aircraft
Fulmar x 14
F4F-4 Wildcat x 17
SBD Dauntless x 30
Swordfish x 30
TBF Avenger x 15
OS2U-3 Kingfisher x 2
SOC-3 Seagull x 4
Walrus x 3
Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 6 destroyed, 4 damaged
Allied aircraft losses
Fulmar: 14 destroyed
F4F-4 Wildcat: 16 destroyed
SBD Dauntless: 30 destroyed
Swordfish: 30 destroyed
TBF Avenger: 15 destroyed
OS2U-3 Kingfisher: 2 destroyed
SOC-3 Seagull: 4 destroyed
Walrus: 2 destroyed
Japanese Ships
CS Chitose
CA Myoko
Aircraft Attacking:
1 x Walrus attacking at 100 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 85,99
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 60
A6M3 Zero x 10
Allied aircraft
Fulmar x 4
Swordfish x 20
No Japanese losses
Allied aircraft losses
Fulmar: 4 destroyed
Swordfish: 17 destroyed
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Day Air attack on TF at 85,99
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 68
A6M3 Zero x 10
Allied aircraft
F4F-4 Wildcat x 7
SBD Dauntless x 29
TBF Avenger x 15
Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 5 destroyed, 3 damaged
Allied aircraft losses
F4F-4 Wildcat: 7 destroyed
SBD Dauntless: 28 destroyed
TBF Avenger: 8 destroyed
Japanese Ships
BB Yamashiro
CV Junyo
BB Nagato
CA Haguro
Aircraft Attacking:
1 x SBD Dauntless bombing at 2000 feet
1 x TBF Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet
3 x TBF Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet
3 x TBF Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 85,99
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 120
A6M3 Zero x 22
Allied aircraft
F4F-4 Wildcat x 7
SBD Dauntless x 30
TBF Avenger x 15
Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 1 damaged
A6M3 Zero: 3 damaged
Allied aircraft losses
F4F-4 Wildcat: 7 destroyed
SBD Dauntless: 30 destroyed
TBF Avenger: 12 destroyed
Japanese Ships
CV Soryu
Aircraft Attacking:
3 x TBF Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 86,101
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 12
G3M Nell x 20
G4M1 Betty x 38
Allied aircraft
Fulmar x 36
F4F-4 Wildcat x 76
Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 9 destroyed
G3M Nell: 18 destroyed
G4M1 Betty: 18 destroyed, 2 damaged
Allied aircraft losses
Fulmar: 4 destroyed, 14 damaged
F4F-4 Wildcat: 7 destroyed, 23 damaged
Allied Ships
CV Yorktown, Torpedo hits 2, on fire
CA New Orleans
BB Idaho, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
BB Mississippi, Torpedo hits 1
Aircraft Attacking:
3 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
2 x G3M Nell launching torpedoes at 200 feet
1 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
3 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
3 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
3 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
3 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 86,101
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 123
A6M3 Zero x 16
D3A Val x 35
B5N Kate x 155
Allied aircraft
Fulmar x 32
F4F-4 Wildcat x 69
Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 18 destroyed, 1 damaged
A6M3 Zero: 2 destroyed
D3A Val: 2 damaged
B5N Kate: 15 destroyed, 40 damaged
Allied aircraft losses
Fulmar: 32 destroyed
F4F-4 Wildcat: 69 destroyed
Allied Ships
CV Formidable, Torpedo hits 7, on fire, heavy damage
CV Indomitable, Bomb hits 5, Torpedo hits 8, on fire, heavy damage
CV Illustrious, Torpedo hits 4, on fire, heavy damage
CL Mauritius, Torpedo hits 4, on fire, heavy damage
CL Newcastle, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
CLAA Capetown, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
CL Enterprise, Torpedo hits 1
CL Glasgow
CLAA Ceres
Aircraft Attacking:
2 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
2 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
1 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
2 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
2 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
1 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
2 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
7 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
3 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
2 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
1 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
1 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
2 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
3 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
2 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
3 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
3 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
3 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
3 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
9 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
9 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
4 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
9 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
4 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
3 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 86,101
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 4
D3A Val x 27
No Japanese losses
Allied Ships
CV Indomitable, on fire, heavy damage
CV Formidable, on fire, heavy damage
Aircraft Attacking:
9 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
9 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
9 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 86,101
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 14
D3A Val x 18
B5N Kate x 18
Japanese aircraft losses
B5N Kate: 2 damaged
Allied Ships
CV Formidable, on fire, heavy damage
CLAA Caledon, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
CV Indomitable, on fire, heavy damage
CV Illustrious, on fire, heavy damage
Aircraft Attacking:
9 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
2 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
9 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
4 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 86,101
Japanese aircraft
A6M3 Zero x 8
D3A Val x 27
B5N Kate x 18
Japanese aircraft losses
D3A Val: 2 destroyed, 11 damaged
B5N Kate: 3 damaged
Allied Ships
CV Illustrious, on fire, heavy damage
CL Emerald, Bomb hits 1, on fire
CA Dorsetshire
CL Birmingham
Aircraft Attacking:
9 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
2 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
8 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
8 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
4 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 10/19/42
Sub attack at 87,104
Japanese Ships
SS I-10, hits 4, on fire, heavy damage
Allied Ships
CL Boise, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
DD Walke
DD Helm
DD Wilson
DD Arunta
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Sub attack at 87,106
Japanese Ships
SS I-172, hits 10, on fire
Allied Ships
AK Mormacrio
MSW Bunbury
MSW Deloraine
MSW Echuca
AK Siaoe
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ASW attack at 87,106
Japanese Ships
SS I-172, hits 5, on fire, heavy damage
Allied Ships
CL St. Louis
CLAA San Juan
DD Cushing
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Day Air attack on TF at 86,104
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 149
A6M3 Zero x 25
Allied aircraft
F4F-4 Wildcat x 8
TBF Avenger x 3
Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 1 destroyed
Allied aircraft losses
F4F-4 Wildcat: 8 destroyed
TBF Avenger: 3 destroyed
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Day Air attack on TF at 87,106
Japanese aircraft
G3M Nell x 4
Allied aircraft
F4F-4 Wildcat x 18
Japanese aircraft losses
G3M Nell: 3 destroyed
Allied aircraft losses
F4F-4 Wildcat: 1 damaged
Allied Ships
CV Enterprise, Torpedo hits 1
Aircraft Attacking:
1 x G3M Nell launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 87,106
Japanese aircraft
D3A Val x 8
B5N Kate x 47
Allied aircraft
F4F-4 Wildcat x 18
Japanese aircraft losses
D3A Val: 2 destroyed, 4 damaged
B5N Kate: 26 destroyed
Allied Ships
CV Yorktown, Torpedo hits 4, on fire, heavy damage
BB Idaho
BB Mississippi, Bomb hits 1, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
Aircraft Attacking:
2 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
2 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
3 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
6 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
2 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 87,106
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 101
A6M3 Zero x 10
D3A Val x 64
B5N Kate x 97
Allied aircraft
F4F-4 Wildcat x 18
Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 1 destroyed
D3A Val: 1 destroyed, 5 damaged
B5N Kate: 5 destroyed, 24 damaged
Allied aircraft losses
F4F-4 Wildcat: 18 destroyed
Allied Ships
CV Lexington, Bomb hits 5, Torpedo hits 8, on fire, heavy damage
CL Helena, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
CA Quincy
CA Vincennes, Bomb hits 4, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
CA Minneapolis, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
Aircraft Attacking:
1 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
1 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
9 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
3 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
3 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
9 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
2 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
9 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
4 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
3 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
9 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
9 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
9 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
9 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
4 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
3 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 87,106
Japanese aircraft
A6M3 Zero x 7
D3A Val x 24
B5N Kate x 18
Japanese aircraft losses
D3A Val: 5 damaged
Allied Ships
CV Lexington, on fire, heavy damage
CLAA San Diego, Bomb hits 1
Aircraft Attacking:
6 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
2 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
9 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
9 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
4 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 87,106
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 7
B5N Kate x 18
Japanese aircraft losses
B5N Kate: 3 damaged
Allied Ships
CV Lexington, on fire, heavy damage
DD Ellet
Aircraft Attacking:
2 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 87,105
Japanese aircraft
D3A Val x 15
B5N Kate x 13
Japanese aircraft losses
D3A Val: 4 damaged
B5N Kate: 4 damaged
Allied Ships
CL Newcastle, Bomb hits 1, Torpedo hits 4, on fire, heavy damage
Aircraft Attacking:
6 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
1 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
9 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
4 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 87,106
Japanese aircraft
G3M Nell x 17
Japanese aircraft losses
G3M Nell: 7 damaged
Allied Ships
CA Indianapolis, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
AK Memphis City, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
AK Mana, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
Allied ground losses:
133 casualties reported
Aircraft Attacking:
1 x G3M Nell launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x G3M Nell launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x G3M Nell launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x G3M Nell launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x G3M Nell launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 87,107
Japanese aircraft
G3M Nell x 11
Japanese aircraft losses
G3M Nell: 3 damaged
Allied Ships
CA Cornwall
CLAA Caledon
DD Paladin
Aircraft Attacking:
3 x G3M Nell bombing at 10000 feet
4 x G3M Nell bombing at 10000 feet
4 x G3M Nell bombing at 10000 feet
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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 10/20/42
ASW attack at 87,107
Japanese Ships
SS I-169, hits 3, on fire
Allied Ships
DD Stack
DD Cummings
DD Case
DD Conyngham
DD Dale
DD Worden
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ASW attack at 87,107
Japanese Ships
SS I-169, hits 3, heavy damage
Allied Ships
AK Oklahoman
DD Kilty
DD Brooks
DD Humphreys
DD Gilmer
DMS Lamberton
DMS Perry
DMS Long
DMS Wasmuth
AP Le Maire
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Day Air attack on TF at 87,108
Japanese aircraft
B5N Kate x 12
Allied aircraft
F4F-4 Wildcat x 2
Japanese aircraft losses
B5N Kate: 1 destroyed, 6 damaged
Allied Ships
AK Santa Elisa, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
DMS Zane
DMS Trevor
AP J. Franklin Bell, Torpedo hits 2, on fire
Allied ground losses:
38 casualties reported
Guns lost 1
Aircraft Attacking:
3 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
1 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
3 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 87,108
Japanese aircraft
D3A Val x 4
B5N Kate x 6
Allied aircraft
F4F-4 Wildcat x 2
Japanese aircraft losses
D3A Val: 1 damaged
Allied Ships
DD Kilty
DD Brooks
AP Van Imhoff, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
Allied ground losses:
12 casualties reported
Guns lost 1
Aircraft Attacking:
2 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
4 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 87,108
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 91
A6M3 Zero x 18
D3A Val x 74
B5N Kate x 78
Allied aircraft
F4F-4 Wildcat x 2
Japanese aircraft losses
A6M3 Zero: 1 destroyed
D3A Val: 3 destroyed, 6 damaged
B5N Kate: 5 destroyed, 20 damaged
Allied aircraft losses
F4F-4 Wildcat: 2 destroyed
Allied Ships
CV Hornet, Bomb hits 14, Torpedo hits 6, on fire, heavy damage
CA Louisville, Torpedo hits 2, on fire
CA Canberra
CL Perth, Bomb hits 6, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
CLAA Atlanta, Torpedo hits 2, on fire
DD Monaghan
CA Chester
CL Tromp
Aircraft Attacking:
4 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
9 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
2 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
3 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
8 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
2 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
2 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
5 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
4 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
9 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
9 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
9 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
4 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
3 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
3 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
9 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
4 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
2 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
9 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
4 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 87,108
Japanese aircraft
B5N Kate x 4
Japanese aircraft losses
B5N Kate: 2 destroyed
Allied Ships
CV Enterprise, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
Aircraft Attacking:
2 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 87,108
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 9
D3A Val x 27
B5N Kate x 17
Japanese aircraft losses
D3A Val: 2 damaged
B5N Kate: 3 damaged
Allied Ships
CA Indianapolis, Bomb hits 2, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
AK Fairfield City, Bomb hits 4, on fire
AK Mokihana, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
AK Benkalis, Torpedo hits 2, on fire
AK Soerabaja, Torpedo hits 4, on fire, heavy damage
AK Paz, Bomb hits 1
Allied ground losses:
377 casualties reported
Aircraft Attacking:
1 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
9 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
4 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
9 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
9 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 87,108
Japanese aircraft
B5N Kate x 27
Japanese aircraft losses
B5N Kate: 4 damaged
Allied Ships
CA Vincennes, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
Aircraft Attacking:
2 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
1 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 87,108
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 6
B5N Kate x 18
Japanese aircraft losses
B5N Kate: 4 destroyed, 7 damaged
Allied Ships
CA Portland, Torpedo hits 2, on fire
AK Senang, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
AK Mormacdove, Torpedo hits 1
AK Mormacland
Allied ground losses:
72 casualties reported
Aircraft Attacking:
3 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
3 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
3 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
1 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 95,62
Allied aircraft
P-39D Airacobra x 9
B-24D Liberator x 28
No Allied losses
Japanese Ships
MSW Seki Maru
AK Raizan Maru
AK Urashio Maru, Bomb hits 4, on fire, heavy damage
AK Fuki Maru, Bomb hits 5, on fire, heavy damage
Aircraft Attacking:
3 x B-24D Liberator bombing at 6000 feet
1 x B-24D Liberator bombing at 6000 feet
4 x B-24D Liberator bombing at 6000 feet
4 x B-24D Liberator bombing at 6000 feet
4 x B-24D Liberator bombing at 6000 feet
4 x B-24D Liberator bombing at 6000 feet
4 x B-24D Liberator bombing at 6000 feet
4 x B-24D Liberator bombing at 6000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 87,108
Japanese aircraft
D3A Val x 82
B5N Kate x 69
Japanese aircraft losses
D3A Val: 3 destroyed, 4 damaged
B5N Kate: 4 destroyed, 29 damaged
Allied Ships
CL Sumatra, Bomb hits 3, on fire
CV Enterprise, Bomb hits 6, Torpedo hits 4, on fire, heavy damage
CA San Francisco
DD Aaron Ward, Bomb hits 1, on fire
CA Northampton, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
CA Australia, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
CA Astoria, Torpedo hits 1
Aircraft Attacking:
6 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
1 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
6 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
1 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
5 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
2 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
3 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
2 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
2 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
1 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
2 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
3 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
2 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
9 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
3 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
9 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
4 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
9 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
4 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
9 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
9 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
3 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
9 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
4 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 87,109
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 104
A6M3 Zero x 18
B5N Kate x 4
Japanese aircraft losses
B5N Kate: 1 destroyed, 2 damaged
Allied Ships
BB Mississippi, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
Aircraft Attacking:
3 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 87,108
Japanese aircraft
B5N Kate x 18
No Japanese losses
Allied Ships
CV Hornet, on fire, heavy damage
Aircraft Attacking:
2 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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Ursa MAior
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A bit OT unrealistic IMMENSE carrier battles
Can someone explain why are these huge and completely unreal carrier battles happening all over the board? Why was it not so IRL?
THX in advance.
THX in advance.

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