Helpless (Allied) vs Castor Troy (Jpn) / BigB 1.3

[ny59giants]

Andaman Island won´t be really garrisoned.

I would place at least a BF and Brigade size unit there. As an Allied player, this is usually a target for a counteroffensive (especially if it is know that KB is over fighting the Americans. [:D][:D]

What are your overall expansion plans??
Going for any part of India....
After the SRA is taken, taking the northern coast of Australia as a buffer between your Resource/Oil centers from the B-17's...[X(]
PM....
Noumea and maybe even NZ....
The East Pacific Wall - Midway, Johnson Island, Canton Island, Pago Pago, Savu...
Aleutian Islands...

Inquiring Minds want to know...[&:][&:]

[castor troy]

ORIGINAL: ny59giants

Andaman Island won´t be really garrisoned.

I would place at least a BF and Brigade size unit there. As an Allied player, this is usually a target for a counteroffensive (especially if it is know that KB is over fighting the Americans. [:D][:D]

What are your overall expansion plans??
Going for any part of India....
After the SRA is taken, taking the northern coast of Australia as a buffer between your Resource/Oil centers from the B-17's...[X(]
PM....
Noumea and maybe even NZ....
The East Pacific Wall - Midway, Johnson Island, Canton Island, Pago Pago, Savu...
Aleutian Islands...

Inquiring Minds want to know...[&:][&:]

I would welcome an invasion prior to mid 43 of Andaman island. It´s in range of at least three of my major bases in the Rangoon area, so if he brings stuff, he will lose it. I won´t build it up so closing it will be no problem at all for me. Reinforcements will have to face 100 Betties / Nells and 200 Sallies / Helens if needed. Then there are 100+ Zeroes and from mid 42 on hundreds of Tojos and Tonies. I expect the main thrust of the Allied counterattack down the trails (if I will be able to drive them back to India now [:D]).

India is a no go, as he didn´t bring any troops from India to Burma and those in Burma will be able to retreat as I probably won´t be able to cut them off.

PM for me is always an Allied prison camp. I rarely take it and won´t take it in this game. It´s closed and it´s no problem to keep it closed until the whole area is under attack. When I would take it then it´s a Japanese POW camp as it would be closed by hundreds of 4Es out of Townsville. So he has to try to bring in supplies or troops, though I fear he is smart and just let the troops there starve. He tried to bring supplies but of course failed. A bigger TF that brings troops would be a present for me as my bombers are waiting. Even with carrier support I would really welcome him because he then just would risk his carriers.

The Fidjis are heavily defended it seems. Troops and lots of planes. Also the Eastern Pacific islands seem to much of a risk compared to what they would do me good.

NOUMEA IS ALREADY JAPANESE!!!! [:D][:D][:D]

What really is an option is a major attack on Northern Australia! Done that rarely but I have never faced so much threat out of there either! [8|]

[castor troy]

Once again, this PBEM was hit by a bug! [:@][:@]

This time it was the "ghost unit bug". When I was able to cut off the Chinese in Nanchang by entering the hex West of Nanchang the Chinese troops in Nanchang were already set to march. Half of them entered the hex at the same time with my troops, the other half stayed in Nanchang as they haven´t marched the 60 miles at that day. So normally, as those troops now don´t have a supply line to a friendly base, they shouldn´t be able to march out of my base. I think they then should be automatically set to defend as they are now cut off.

That obviously wasn´t the case and the next turn the second half of the troops marched out of Nanchang into the Japanese and Chinese occupied hex West of Nanchang... WOOOOOOOT???? [X(] That can´t be I thought, how is that possible??? [X(][X(][X(] Took a quick look and immediately discovered that there´s something wrong. 13 Chinese units (about 100.000 men) were still in Nanchang - at least that was what the map was telling me. But I couldn´t order an attack on the Chinese in Nanchang... nor could I order my troops there to move. Looking at the map there were now around 15 units two hexes West of Nanchang 13 units one hex West of Nanchang and 13 units IN Nanchang. So 13 units more than Helpless has brought. He couldn´t access those troops in Nanchang either as there were no icons, soooooo....... because of the not allowed moving out of Nanchang the 13 fleeing units that teleported without a supply line through my 250.000 men had left 13 GHOST UNITS behind in Nanchang... GREAT!!!!!!!

While we know how ground combat looks like in WITP it seems in earlier versions at least the movement worked. Since implementing the ZOCs everything has gone completely crazy.....

So after some testing (that took us hours), we agreed on redoing the turns from the 2nd of March on with Helpless manually setting the cut off troops in Nanchang on defend as the game seems to be borked here.

We have redone the first turn and (not really) surprisingly it doesn´t look like the "original" 2nd of March. [8|] It was the day when my tank units cut off the Chinese and only a base forces probed an attack on my tanks (when I feared an attack of ALL his troops). THIS TIME 150.000 Chinese attacked my tanks and of course wrecked the four tank regiments. Ha, ha... [8|] Helpless said he couldn´t remember that he originally not set ALL his troops to attack, so... let´s just go on...

We will see how it will go on the next days. I have to take Brunei once again, which originally had no damage to the oilfields when I took it. I have once again to bring out KB from New Caledonia through a dozen of US subs... [8|][8|]

I will daily update the AAR when we reach the actual date again but I will post if something complete different (as more or less is expected[8|]) will happen.

[castor troy]

As expected the Chinese troops now were able to leave Nanchang as they weren´t cut off for one day. It´s obvious that redoing the three turns made that possible as Helpless knew that only 4 tank regiments were holding their position for only ONE day before a dozen divisions were coming for reinforcements. With that in mind he ordered all his units to attack and now 100.000 Chinese are free again but 4 tank regiments of mine are wrecked...

Excellent move... [8|][8|][8|] that´s pretty close to cheating... or let´s say it was a "bug exploit"!

[castor troy]

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 03/04/42

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TF 21 encounters mine field at Bataan (42,51)

Japanese Ships
MSW Fuji Maru
MSW Fukeui Maru #7
MSW Hinode Maru #20
MSW Musashi Maru
MSW Rokko Maru
MSW Toshi Maru #2

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Day Air attack on Kaifeng , at 51,32


Allied aircraft
SB-2c x 10


No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
11 casualties reported

Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x SB-2c bombing at 15000 feet

the obsolete Chinese bombers starting a bombing campaign... not a single shot was fired by the dozens of flak guns there [&:]

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Day Air attack on Rangoon , at 29,34

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 67

Allied aircraft
Buffalo I x 13
Blenheim I x 25
Blenheim IV x 31
Curtis H81-3A x 2

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 3 destroyed, 15 damaged
Ki-46-II Dinah: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Buffalo I: 7 destroyed
Blenheim I: 13 destroyed
Blenheim IV: 10 destroyed, 11 damaged
Curtis H81-3A: 1 destroyed

Japanese ground losses:
156 casualties reported
Guns lost 5

Runway hits 3

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x Blenheim I bombing at 12000 feet

start of a serious of attacks this turn... out of 108 Zeroes with CAP 90% 67 scramble. As a Japanese player it seems you never get more than 60% of your fighters to scramble even if set to 90 or 100% CAP

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Day Air attack on Rangoon , at 29,34

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 47

Allied aircraft
Blenheim IV x 28
IL-4c x 14

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 1 destroyed, 8 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
Blenheim IV: 9 destroyed, 5 damaged
IL-4c: 3 destroyed, 5 damaged

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x Blenheim IV bombing at 17000 feet


those medium bombers suffer if not escorted... those Blenheims are already obsolete

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Day Air attack on Rangoon , at 29,34

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 63

Allied aircraft
LB-30 Liberator x 20

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 5 destroyed, 12 damaged
Ki-46-II Dinah: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
LB-30 Liberator: 4 destroyed, 12 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
856 casualties reported
Guns lost 23

Airbase hits 3
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 14

Aircraft Attacking:
11 x LB-30 Liberator bombing at 16000 feet


then there are the 4Es... they can´t be stopped at all and take down the Zeroes... and hit them on the ground...[:(]

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Day Air attack on Soerabaja , at 22,65

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21 Sally x 105

Allied aircraft
Hawk 75A x 9
CW-21B Demon x 2
Brewster 339D x 3

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21 Sally: 1 destroyed, 19 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
Hawk 75A: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged
Brewster 339D: 1 destroyed
CW-22 Falcon: 2 destroyed
F.K.51: 2 destroyed
T.IVa: 2 destroyed
Martin 139: 1 destroyed


Allied ground losses:
71 casualties reported
Guns lost 4
Vehicles lost 1

Airbase hits 8
Airbase supply hits 4
Runway hits 42

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 15000 feet

my escort stayed home but the Dutch pilots are low on morale and turn back after some counterfire from the bombers

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Day Air attack on Koepang , at 28,77

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 33
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 20

Allied aircraft
Hudson I x 24
B-17D Fortress x 3
B-17E Fortress x 65

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 5 destroyed, 20 damaged
Ki-43-Ib Oscar: 3 destroyed, 8 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
Hudson I: 1 destroyed, 8 damaged
B-17E Fortress: 29 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
772 casualties reported
Guns lost 8

Airbase hits 6
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 33

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 14000 feet


last turn I moved in the fighters where they damaged some Hudsons... this is alerting my opponent and immediately he sends in the 4Es... they can´t be shot down... they can fly every day... they carry a lot of bombs... they don´t need escorts... fighters destroyed in the air and on the ground... frustrating that there´s nothing you can do about this already in March 42!!!!!!!!!!!!!

53 out of 90 fighters scramble (90% Cap was set) and those 53 fighters manage to take down 1 B17!




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Day Air attack on Manila , at 43,52

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 9
Ki-21 Sally x 168
Ki-49 Helen x 53
Ki-15 Babs x 14

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21 Sally: 2 damaged


Allied ground losses:
274 casualties reported
Guns lost 2

Airbase hits 13
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 92

Aircraft Attacking:
11 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 12000 feet
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Day Air attack on Guam , at 62,66

Japanese aircraft
B5N Kate x 74

No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
25 casualties reported

Airbase hits 4
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 20

Aircraft Attacking:
24 x B5N Kate bombing at 20000 feet
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Day Air attack on Lark Force Battalion, at 60,89

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 76
D3A Val x 15
B5N Kate x 15

No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
94 casualties reported

Aircraft Attacking:
25 x A6M2 Zero bombing at 2000 feet

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Day Air attack on Port Moresby , at 53,91

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 36
Ki-21 Sally x 107
Ki-46-II Dinah x 1

No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
11 casualties reported

Airbase hits 2
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 69

Aircraft Attacking:
21 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet


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Ground combat at Manila

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 92875 troops, 1203 guns, 39 vehicles, Assault Value = 2585

Defending force 100218 troops, 776 guns, 362 vehicles, Assault Value = 2263



Allied ground losses:
86 casualties reported


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Ground combat at Samarinda

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 3226 troops, 18 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 93

Defending force 0 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1

Japanese max assault: 73 - adjusted assault: 19

Allied max defense: 0 - adjusted defense: 1

Japanese assault odds: 19 to 1 (fort level 0)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Samarinda base !!!



Defeated Allied Units Retreating!


that´s nice also... the LCU didn´t vanish... it now sits in the North of Balikpapan...[8|]

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Ground combat at 48,37

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 189575 troops, 2531 guns, 51 vehicles, Assault Value = 4923

Defending force 71490 troops, 184 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1762



Allied ground losses:
1511 casualties reported
Guns lost 42


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Ground combat at Kragen

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 6445 troops, 74 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 135

Defending force 0 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 0

Japanese max assault: 120 - adjusted assault: 117

Allied max defense: 0 - adjusted defense: 1

Japanese assault odds: 117 to 1 (fort level 2)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Kragen base !!!



Here are the air losses for today... While the Allied suffered more losses it´s a clear sign for me that there´s nothing I can do, even against unescorted bombers. The obsolete British prewar bombers will soon be swapped out to Wellingtons and will be twice as hard to take down than the Blens.

Something for Brian:

But what frustrates me the most so far are the US 4Es. I´m not complaining that it is unrealistic that they are really hard to down with a Zero, not to talk about an Oscar but what is unrealistic is that they are ready for action 95% all the time and can fly the next day when 30% were damaged. From mid 42 on there will be 100+ 4Es more every month that are always combat ready. Until the end of 43 they are compoletely immune to fighters, then the first fighter with a higher gun value is available.

What we have now is a more or less realistic A2A of Japanese early war fighters against Allied bombers, but a complete out of the whack availability of Allied 4E bombers. Just read half of the article Denisohn posted today and there it is stated that the 5th AF had only a couple of 4Es available for strike missions!! [X(][X(][X(] In 43!!! [8|][8|][X(][X(] They were hard to maintain and very valuable. I´m in March 42 now and face 70+ 4E bombers every day (if my opponent wishes to do so).

I really fear that there´s a huge disproportion coming towards me the longer the game will go and what would be the most depressing is the fact that I don´t know how this will effect the game in, let´s say 6 months. The disproportion just lies in the realistic kill rate with the completely unrealistic availability of the bombers. With a flak that is completely useless, no matter at what altitude.

This turn really opened my eyes once again... [8|]

Considering that nearly all Japanese fighters were lost to 4E bomber raids my opponent would have come better off if he would have only sent his 4Es. Then I would have lost the 35 planes I have actually lost but he would have only suffered 6 losses from his raids. [8|]

Have a look:

[Big B]

Yes I hear you loud and clear.
As I believe I mentioned earlier in an comment, the numbers of B-17s were toned way down - but I neglected B-24s - and that is being reduced in 1.4 (B-17s & B-24's about 10 - 20 per month until late 43)(along with Chinese supply in general) .

That should take care of both problems.

ORIGINAL: castor troy

{snip}
Something for Brian:

But what frustrates me the most so far are the US 4Es. I´m not complaining that it is unrealistic that they are really hard to down with a Zero, not to talk about an Oscar but what is unrealistic is that they are ready for action 95% all the time and can fly the next day when 30% were damaged. From mid 42 on there will be 100+ 4Es more every month that are always combat ready. Until the end of 43 they are compoletely immune to fighters, then the first fighter with a higher gun value is available.

What we have now is a more or less realistic A2A of Japanese early war fighters against Allied bombers, but a complete out of the whack availability of Allied 4E bombers. Just read half of the article Denisohn posted today and there it is stated that the 5th AF had only a couple of 4Es available for strike missions!! [X(][X(][X(] In 43!!! [8|][8|][X(][X(] They were hard to maintain and very valuable. I´m in March 42 now and face 70+ 4E bombers every day (if my opponent wishes to do so).

I really fear that there´s a huge disproportion coming towards me the longer the game will go and what would be the most depressing is the fact that I don´t know how this will effect the game in, let´s say 6 months. The disproportion just lies in the realistic kill rate with the completely unrealistic availability of the bombers. With a flak that is completely useless, no matter at what altitude.

This turn really opened my eyes once again... [8|]

Considering that nearly all Japanese fighters were lost to 4E bomber raids my opponent would have come better off if he would have only sent his 4Es. Then I would have lost the 35 planes I have actually lost but he would have only suffered 6 losses from his raids. [8|]

Have a look:

[castor troy]

ORIGINAL: Big B

Yes I hear you loud and clear.
As I believe I mentioned earlier in an comment, The numbers of B-17s were toned way down - but I neglected B-24s. (along with Chinese supply) that is being reduced in 1.4 (B-17s & B-24's about 10 - 20 per month until late 43).

That should take care of both problems.

ORIGINAL: castor troy

{snip}
Something for Brian:

But what frustrates me the most so far are the US 4Es. I´m not complaining that it is unrealistic that they are really hard to down with a Zero, not to talk about an Oscar but what is unrealistic is that they are ready for action 95% all the time and can fly the next day when 30% were damaged. From mid 42 on there will be 100+ 4Es more every month that are always combat ready. Until the end of 43 they are compoletely immune to fighters, then the first fighter with a higher gun value is available.

What we have now is a more or less realistic A2A of Japanese early war fighters against Allied bombers, but a complete out of the whack availability of Allied 4E bombers. Just read half of the article Denisohn posted today and there it is stated that the 5th AF had only a couple of 4Es available for strike missions!! [X(][X(][X(] In 43!!! [8|][8|][X(][X(] They were hard to maintain and very valuable. I´m in March 42 now and face 70+ 4E bombers every day (if my opponent wishes to do so).

I really fear that there´s a huge disproportion coming towards me the longer the game will go and what would be the most depressing is the fact that I don´t know how this will effect the game in, let´s say 6 months. The disproportion just lies in the realistic kill rate with the completely unrealistic availability of the bombers. With a flak that is completely useless, no matter at what altitude.

This turn really opened my eyes once again... [8|]

Considering that nearly all Japanese fighters were lost to 4E bomber raids my opponent would have come better off if he would have only sent his 4Es. Then I would have lost the 35 planes I have actually lost but he would have only suffered 6 losses from his raids. [8|]

Have a look:

okey dokey... [;)] Now I have just to find a way to fight the bombers in 1.31 [;)]

[ny59giants]

okey dokey... [;)]Now I have just to find a way to fight the bombers in 1.31 [;)]

Order your pilots to ram the 4E's. [:D][:D]

[castor troy]

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 03/05/42

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Day Air attack on Kaifeng , at 51,32


Allied aircraft
SB-2c x 28


No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
10 casualties reported

Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 8

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x SB-2c bombing at 15000 feet

I can´t explain why my flak doesn´t fire at all. There are dozens of AA guns and 40.000 supplies but the replay doesn´t show a single flak burst... [:@][:@][:@]

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Day Air attack on Soerabaja , at 22,65

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 35
Ki-21 Sally x 94

Allied aircraft
Hawk 75A x 4
CW-21B Demon x 3
Brewster 339D x 3

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21 Sally: 1 destroyed, 12 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
Hawk 75A: 1 destroyed, 2 damaged
CW-21B Demon: 3 destroyed
Brewster 339D: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged
T.IVa: 1 destroyed
Martin 139: 3 destroyed
F.K.51: 1 destroyed


Allied ground losses:
27 casualties reported

Airbase hits 7
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 28

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 15000 feet

this time with escorts...

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Day Air attack on Koepang , at 28,77

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft
Hudson I x 30
B-17D Fortress x 9
B-17E Fortress x 50

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-43-Ib Oscar: 5 destroyed
E7K2 Alf: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Hudson I: 1 damaged
B-17E Fortress: 1 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
511 casualties reported
Guns lost 7

Airbase hits 6
Airbase supply hits 4
Runway hits 55

Aircraft Attacking:
5 x Hudson I bombing at 10000 feet

lol! Anyone wants to laugh with me??? [8|] Last turn 29 were damaged with a laughable single B17 lost. This turn they come back (and those are the same squadrons) with 50 B17. Range from Darwin is 11, so fatigue isn´t effecting them at all, they now must be around 50 fatigue... ha ha ha 1 B17 is lost but I lose 10 Oscars on the ground. Base is completely destroyed as are my support troops sooner or later. Flak is useless as always and all my support units are taking heavy losses on and on... Can´t do anything about it... Must have been a big mistake to attack Timor.[X(] Perhaps I should have stopped at Singapore. No, wait, then those bombers would now bomb Bangkok and Saigon[8|]

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Day Air attack on Manila , at 43,52

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 8
Ki-21 Sally x 169
Ki-49 Helen x 53
Ki-15 Babs x 14

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21 Sally: 1 damaged


Allied ground losses:
181 casualties reported
Guns lost 2
Vehicles lost 1

Airbase hits 4
Airbase supply hits 4
Runway hits 113

Aircraft Attacking:
15 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 12000 feet

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Day Air attack on Lark Force Battalion, at 60,89

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 76
D3A Val x 15
B5N Kate x 15

No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
48 casualties reported

Aircraft Attacking:
25 x A6M2 Zero bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on Port Moresby , at 53,91

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 27
Ki-21 Sally x 104
Ki-46-II Dinah x 1

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21 Sally: 2 damaged

Airbase hits 2
Airbase supply hits 4
Runway hits 33

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet


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Ground combat at Manila

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 92901 troops, 1208 guns, 39 vehicles, Assault Value = 2593

Defending force 99933 troops, 771 guns, 358 vehicles, Assault Value = 2259



Allied ground losses:
177 casualties reported

First time enemy troop number is below 100.000 and assault value decreased by 4 points. Supply????

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Ground combat at 48,37

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 189340 troops, 2524 guns, 50 vehicles, Assault Value = 4919

Defending force 69605 troops, 130 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1682



Allied ground losses:
733 casualties reported
Guns lost 11


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Ground combat at 49,38

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 26231 troops, 345 guns, 143 vehicles, Assault Value = 571

Defending force 20300 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 0

Japanese max assault: 1198 - adjusted assault: 3116

Allied max defense: 0 - adjusted defense: 17

Japanese assault odds: 183 to 1



Allied ground losses:
148 casualties reported


Defeated Allied Units Retreating!

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Ground combat at 48,37

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 58398 troops, 97 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1623

Defending force 251651 troops, 3083 guns, 67 vehicles, Assault Value = 4919


Japanese ground losses:
33 casualties reported
Guns lost 1



As said before I´m thinking about taking out North Australia. While I want to do that because of the 4E threat I really have to say that the same threat alone would probably make an invasion hard to impossible. KB could perhaps get up a cap of 90 Zeroes which could shoot down perhaps 10 B17 and then 70+ would bomb my carriers which probably means around 5-10hits. [8|] With KB out of action the invasion then would have severe problems. All Northern Australian bases have already at least a level 4 airfield so he could fly them out from wherever he wants. It would be good to have that what happens to fighters in Nikmod 8.0 happen to the 4E bombers here. Getting damaged by flying missions. Then with the accurate numbers of planes we could get an accurate availability of combat ready aircrafts also.

On the other side I am not able to shoot more than one B17 down with a cap of over 50 fighters so with the increasing numbers everything within a range of 13 will be a possible target of an Allied offensive with the total air superiority they have. And to be honest I don´t want to have a couple of Allied divisions at Kendari in mid 42... [8|]

[castor troy]

ORIGINAL: ny59giants

okey dokey... [;)]Now I have just to find a way to fight the bombers in 1.31 [;)]

Order your pilots to ram the 4E's. [:D][:D]

If I could then I would! I fear that wouldn´t take them down either. Perhaps three Oscars crashing in a B17 to take it down?? [;)]

I really don´t have a problem that they are hard to shoot down. I don´t have a problem with the replacement rate either as it is accurate. A problem is only that no matter how much you damage, no matter that they operate at their max range, they can fly every day if my opponent wishes to see them fly. And that´s the problem. That´s a stock problem that can´t be changed. So, as said before, I face the realistic (and very good [&o]) A2A of the mod but also the complete unrealistic availability rate of combat ready 4E bombers of stock.

[Cathartes]

Have you seen them fly everyday?  It seems hard for me to believe that they are capable of this, even in stock.  With fighter cover the morale hit and op damage will be notable, especially at range.  Does your opponent have several hundred stacked for mission rotation?

[castor troy]

ORIGINAL: Cathartes

Have you seen them fly everyday?  It seems hard for me to believe that they are capable of this, even in stock.  With fighter cover the morale hit and op damage will be notable, especially at range.  Does your opponent have several hundred stacked for mission rotation?

no not every day. But far more often then I thought I would see them. He surely has not even hundred, I would bet he has around 70 B17E which are all at Darwin. But that´s just a guess. Like I said, when he wishes to have them fly, they fly. Like the last two turns in a row. First 60+ attack, of which 1 is shot down by the 50+ defending fighters while nearly 30 are damaged. Over night the repair teams are working and the next day again 50+ are flying. That wasn´t what I was expecting. I thought if they even would fly (moral and fatigue to high I thought - wrong thought btw) then "only" 30 would be coming towards me.

But after thinking what to do I checked the aircraft stats up and down and I think I know now what goes "wrong" and why my fighters are so poor against the bombers. I´m not saying this is unrealistic, I just try to figure out if there will be anything to do some time. The B17 E has an armor value of 2! While the Japanese fighters have already a poor gun value (e.g. the Oscar has 5) the value is even more reduced by the fact that not all weapons the fighters carry can penetrate the armor of the bombers. The Oscar carries one 7,7mm MG and one 12,7 mm MG. The 7,7 has a penetration value of 1 so a B17E is completely immune to gun fire from that gun. Leaves only the 12,7 for the Oscar and a gun value of perhaps 3??? then against bombers.

The Zeroe has a gun value of 12 and now and then is able to take a 4E down. Though also the Zeroes gun value is decreased by the fact that it carries two 7,7 mm MG and two 20 mm cannons. Again the 7,7 can´t penetrate the armor so only the cannons are left (penetration value 3!). Leaves a gun value of 8 perhaps.

Knowing that, I checked the next fighters that will come online! The Tojo and the B model of the Tony. Both have a gun value of 12. Not exciting if you think about how the Zero is performing. BUT.... the Tojo and the Tony are equipped with 4x12,7 mm MGs with a penetration value of 2!!! So those two fighters "should" have a "real" gun value of 12 against the 2 armored bombers. Hoping now that my assumption is correct.

Perhaps Brian can give some information? [;)][&o]

The empire is now hoping for the next generation of land based fighters.
[&o][&o][&o]

[castor troy]

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 03/06/42

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Night Time Surface Combat, near Soerabaja at 22,65

Japanese Ships
CA Myoko
CL Naka
CL Natori
CL Kuma
DD Yugumo, Shell hits 1
DD Kuroshio
DD Oyashio
DD Hatsukaze
DD Michishio
DD Minegumo

Allied Ships
PT TM-10, Shell hits 62, and is sunk


a surface combat TF was sent in to take out the dozen single ship TFs there but they ALL left this turn... [8|] they are now on the way to Australia, where 90% will probably arrive... nice combat against the PT as the game got into another loop with 40-50 hits being 5 inch...

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TF 1133 encounters mine field at Pago Pago (98,110)

Allied Ships
MSW Rail
MSW Turkey
DMS Elliot
DMS Wasmuth


laid a Type 88 minefield there two turns ago, now a TF that has MSW in it came in and discovered it... bad timing on my part as I have seen the TF before, identifying MSWs also...

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Day Air attack on Soerabaja , at 22,65

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 35
Ki-21 Sally x 78

Allied aircraft
Hawk 75A x 3
CW-21B Demon x 1
Brewster 339D x 3

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-43-Ib Oscar: 1 destroyed
Ki-21 Sally: 3 destroyed, 3 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
Hawk 75A: 1 destroyed, 2 damaged
CW-21B Demon: 1 destroyed
Brewster 339D: 1 destroyed
F.K.51: 1 destroyed


Allied ground losses:
44 casualties reported
Guns lost 2

Airbase hits 11
Airbase supply hits 3
Runway hits 29

Aircraft Attacking:
11 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 15000 feet

what would I give to have a flak like the early Dutch forces...

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Day Air attack on 89th Regional Army Corps, at 49,40

Japanese aircraft
Ki-27 Nate x 292
Ki-30 Ann x 10
Ki-32 Mary x 10
Ki-51 Sonia x 44
Ki-21 Sally x 9

No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
17 casualties reported

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x Ki-27 Nate bombing at 2000 feet



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Ground combat at Manila

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 92986 troops, 1207 guns, 40 vehicles, Assault Value = 2598

Defending force 99686 troops, 762 guns, 359 vehicles, Assault Value = 2258



Allied ground losses:
159 casualties reported
Guns lost 2


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Ground combat at 48,37

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 189377 troops, 2519 guns, 50 vehicles, Assault Value = 4915

Defending force 68580 troops, 130 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1635



Allied ground losses:
895 casualties reported
Guns lost 10


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Ground combat at Taiping

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 2142 troops, 0 guns, 136 vehicles, Assault Value = 100

Defending force 1703 troops, 1 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 39

Japanese max assault: 68 - adjusted assault: 128

Allied max defense: 32 - adjusted defense: 3

Japanese assault odds: 42 to 1



Allied ground losses:
16 casualties reported


the next of the two remaining British guerilla LCUs on the Malayan peninsula. Hopefully it will not take me as long as with the last one I killed.

[castor troy]

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 03/07/42

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ASW attack at 23,64

Japanese Ships
DD Minegumo
DD Michishio
DD Hatsukaze
DD Oyashio
DD Kuroshio
DD Yugumo

Allied Ships
SS O24, hits 1

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Night Time Surface Combat, near Soerabaja at 22,65

Japanese Ships
CA Myoko
CL Naka
CL Natori
CL Kuma
DD Yugumo
DD Kuroshio
DD Oyashio
DD Hatsukaze
DD Michishio
DD Minegumo

Allied Ships
TK Talang Akar, Shell hits 41, and is sunk


there are single ship TFs again at Soerabaja and the surface group went in again...

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Night Time Surface Combat, near Soerabaja at 22,65

Japanese Ships
CA Myoko
CL Naka
CL Natori
CL Kuma
DD Yugumo
DD Kuroshio
DD Oyashio
DD Hatsukaze
DD Michishio
DD Minegumo

Allied Ships
AK Sinabang, Shell hits 21, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk

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Naval bombardment of Soerabaja, at 22,65 - Coastal Guns Fire Back!

22 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.
Japanese Ships
CA Nachi, Shell hits 7
CA Maya
CA Takao
BB Yamashiro
BB Fuso
BB Mutsu


Allied ground losses:
416 casualties reported
Guns lost 16

even with good recon and no fight for the bombardment group it´s not always the case that the Japanese are doing nuke bombardments. The 150mm CD guns at Soerabaja (those that sunk a CL early on) once again prove how dangerous they are and destroy a main gun turret of CA Nachi...

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Sub attack near Soerabaja at 22,65

Japanese Ships
DD Oyashio
DD Minegumo
DD Michishio
DD Hatsukaze
DD Kuroshio
DD Yugumo

Allied Ships
SS O24

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TF 9 troops unloading over beach at Merauke, 47,87


Japanese ground losses:
50 casualties reported

fast transport

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Day Air attack on Ichang , at 47,33


Allied aircraft
SB-2c x 60


No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
32 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 12

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x SB-2c bombing at 14000 feet

the Chinese airforce is getting more and more confident and attacks now Ichang. Three IJA base forces there but no flak fire at all [&:]

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Day Air attack on Mandalay , at 33,30

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 107
Ki-46-II Dinah x 1

Allied aircraft
Buffalo I x 7
Curtis H81-3A x 9
Hurricane IIb x 42

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 21 destroyed, 3 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
Buffalo I: 5 destroyed
Curtis H81-3A: 8 destroyed
Hurricane IIb: 28 destroyed


ouch... because of the stacked British base forces at Mandalay I´m running into trouble there. Lots of AA makes bombing very bloody and like that attack showed also sweeps with superior numbers are bloody. The reason for that was that nearly every fighter squadron on defense was able to bounce the attackers. The many base forces there raised the detection level of my Zeroes and they got bounced on and on. The in 1.806 implemented randomness of radar didn´t work in my favour at this turn it seems. One daitai was hit hard and lost 18 Zeroes. It is now on the way to China for 4-6 months of training. It is replaced by another daitai. I have one daitai in reserve. After that is also depleted it doesn´t look good for us, so no more offensive operations like that in the near future.

Many Allied base forces at a base means that base is a no go for Japanese fighters or bombers.


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Day Air attack on Guam , at 62,66

Japanese aircraft
B5N Kate x 74

Japanese aircraft losses
B5N Kate: 1 damaged


Allied ground losses:
79 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Airbase hits 1
Airbase supply hits 3
Runway hits 31

Aircraft Attacking:
24 x B5N Kate bombing at 20000 feet
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Day Air attack on 89th Regional Army Corps, at 49,40

Japanese aircraft
Ki-27 Nate x 266
Ki-30 Ann x 12
Ki-32 Mary x 12
Ki-51 Sonia x 45
Ki-21 Sally x 7

No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
30 casualties reported

Aircraft Attacking:
10 x Ki-27 Nate bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 22,62


Allied aircraft
Martin 139 x 2


Allied aircraft losses
Martin 139: 1 destroyed

Japanese Ships
BB Mutsu

Aircraft Attacking:
1 x Martin 139 bombing at 3000 feet
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Day Air attack on Koepang , at 28,77


Allied aircraft
Hudson I x 31
B-17D Fortress x 7
B-17E Fortress x 41


Allied aircraft losses
Hudson I: 1 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
550 casualties reported
Guns lost 5

Airbase hits 4
Airbase supply hits 3
Runway hits 47


3rd attack in four days. Range 11. While all bombers on map have a far too high availability rate (I don´t exclude mine) those bombers here are flying at a range of 11. My bombers that are flying in the Philipines fly at a range of 1 and those on Java at a range of 2. Nevertheless I do suffer op losses every day of around 5 bombers, not counted the losses to flak. The Allied bombers flown by pilots that must be fatigued 30-50 suffer op losses rearly rarely. They must have a very good autopilot already that makes it possible for Allied pilots to drink cocktails served by one of the four stewardess on board the B17 while they are flying the 11 hexes to the target and back again.




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Ground combat at Manila

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 92933 troops, 1205 guns, 41 vehicles, Assault Value = 2596

Defending force 99682 troops, 761 guns, 359 vehicles, Assault Value = 2267



Allied ground losses:
175 casualties reported
Guns lost 4


A lonely AK seems coming towards Manila. Surely to unload supplies. I have ordered the 6 small MSWs at Bataan to patrol do not retire Manila to intercept the AK. Will be interesting to see how the fight goes as every MSW has only a 3 inch gun. Also a 27 plane daitai of Vals is set on naval attack... hopefully they will fly.

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Ground combat at 48,37

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 234703 troops, 3053 guns, 67 vehicles, Assault Value = 4909

Defending force 67578 troops, 134 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1591



Allied ground losses:
345 casualties reported
Guns lost 5


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Ground combat at Taiping

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 2162 troops, 0 guns, 137 vehicles, Assault Value = 267

Defending force 1696 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 37

Japanese max assault: 68 - adjusted assault: 33

Allied max defense: 30 - adjusted defense: 3

Japanese assault odds: 11 to 1




Some interesting facts from the operational report:

FLT Yarra, J.W. of 232 Squadron is credited with kill number 7
flies a Buffalo!!

FO Edwards R. of AVG bails out and is RESCUED
The Allied ace FO Edwards is shot down again and again he bails out and is rescued... lucky guy[8|]

MAJ Boyington, G. of AVG is credited with kill number 4
MAJ Boyington, G. of AVG is credited with kill number 5
MAJ Boyington, G. of AVG is credited with kill number 6

[ny59giants]

Day Air attack on Mandalay , at 33,30

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 107
Ki-46-II Dinah x 1

Allied aircraft
Buffalo I x 7
Curtis H81-3A x 9
Hurricane IIb x 42

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 21 destroyed, 3 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
Buffalo I: 5 destroyed
Curtis H81-3A: 8 destroyed
Hurricane IIb: 28 destroyed


ouch... because of the stacked British base forces at Mandalay I´m running into trouble there. Lots of AA makes bombing very bloody and like that attack showed also sweeps with superior numbers are bloody. The reason for that was that nearly every fighter squadron on defense was able to bounce the attackers. The many base forces there raised the detection level of my Zeroes and they got bounced on and on. The in 1.806 implemented randomness of radar didn´t work in my favour at this turn it seems. One daitai was hit hard and lost 18 Zeroes. It is now on the way to China for 4-6 months of training. It is replaced by another daitai. I have one daitai in reserve. After that is also depleted it doesn´t look good for us, so no more offensive operations like that in the near future.

Many Allied base forces at a base means that base is a no go for Japanese fighters or bombers.

Look at the percentage of each other.
Japanese losses were 19.4%
Allied losses were 70.6%

These isn't too bad in airframes lost. The problem for the Japanese is the lost of pilots over an enemy base.

[castor troy]

ORIGINAL: ny59giants

Day Air attack on Mandalay , at 33,30

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 107
Ki-46-II Dinah x 1

Allied aircraft
Buffalo I x 7
Curtis H81-3A x 9
Hurricane IIb x 42

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 21 destroyed, 3 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
Buffalo I: 5 destroyed
Curtis H81-3A: 8 destroyed
Hurricane IIb: 28 destroyed


ouch... because of the stacked British base forces at Mandalay I´m running into trouble there. Lots of AA makes bombing very bloody and like that attack showed also sweeps with superior numbers are bloody. The reason for that was that nearly every fighter squadron on defense was able to bounce the attackers. The many base forces there raised the detection level of my Zeroes and they got bounced on and on. The in 1.806 implemented randomness of radar didn´t work in my favour at this turn it seems. One daitai was hit hard and lost 18 Zeroes. It is now on the way to China for 4-6 months of training. It is replaced by another daitai. I have one daitai in reserve. After that is also depleted it doesn´t look good for us, so no more offensive operations like that in the near future.

Many Allied base forces at a base means that base is a no go for Japanese fighters or bombers.

Look at the percentage of each other.
Japanese losses were 19.4%
Allied losses were 70.6%

These isn't too bad in airframes lost. The problem for the Japanese is the lost of pilots over an enemy base.

If you see it in percentage lost of the whole flight, yes, then it isn´t too bad. Though 2:1 in planes lost at the beginning of march 42 isn´t a whopping result for Japanese high exp Zero daitais either. As said, the bouncing on and on made the difference between an expected (or hoped for) result of 4:1 and the actual result of 2:1 in kills. The loss of 21 Navy pilots is of course a small disaster as the pool has been loooooong dry already.

The planes from Mandalay were pulled out again and my troops from Rangoon are on the march. 3000 assault points but preparation is very low as they prepped for Rangoon, which proved to be a fault of my side.

If I only have to fight the British out of Burma then I´m not really concerned because they only get 30 pilots a month IIRC. So it will be an equal fight. But when there are a couple of US Army squadrons then Burma will soon be the grave of IJN pilots.

[castor troy]

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 03/08/42

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TF 1133 encounters mine field at Pago Pago (98,110)

Allied Ships
MSW Rail
MSW Turkey
DMS Elliot
DMS Wasmuth

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TF 1133 encounters mine field at Pago Pago (98,110)

Allied Ships
MSW Rail
MSW Turkey
DMS Elliot
DMS Wasmuth

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Day Air attack on Ichang , at 47,33


Allied aircraft
SB-2c x 49


No Allied losses

Airbase hits 2
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 13

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x SB-2c bombing at 14000 feet

no flak, nada... [8|] and I have no idea why


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Day Air attack on Soerabaja , at 22,65

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 35
Ki-21 Sally x 112

Allied aircraft
Hawk 75A x 4
CW-21B Demon x 1
Brewster 339D x 5

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21 Sally: 11 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
Hawk 75A: 2 destroyed
CW-21B Demon: 1 destroyed
Brewster 339D: 1 destroyed, 2 damaged


Allied ground losses:
111 casualties reported
Guns lost 6
Vehicles lost 1

Airbase hits 11
Airbase supply hits 8
Runway hits 50

Aircraft Attacking:
15 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 15000 feet
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Day Air attack on Manila , at 43,52

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 8
Ki-21 Sally x 192
Ki-49 Helen x 53
Ki-15 Babs x 5

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21 Sally: 1 damaged


Allied ground losses:
179 casualties reported
Guns lost 2
Vehicles lost 2

Airbase hits 29
Airbase supply hits 6
Runway hits 108

Aircraft Attacking:
11 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 12000 feet

have switched the Helens to ground attack for the next turn to hit some of the LCUs (probably they will concentrate on one) as I will order a ground attack in two weeks at the latest

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Day Air attack on Guam , at 62,66

Japanese aircraft
B5N Kate x 74

No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
16 casualties reported

Airbase hits 2
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 38

Aircraft Attacking:
24 x B5N Kate bombing at 20000 feet
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Day Air attack on 89th Regional Army Corps, at 49,40

Japanese aircraft
Ki-27 Nate x 272
Ki-30 Ann x 10
Ki-32 Mary x 10
Ki-51 Sonia x 40

No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
71 casualties reported

Aircraft Attacking:
10 x Ki-27 Nate bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on Lark Force Battalion, at 60,89

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 76
D3A Val x 15
B5N Kate x 15

No Japanese losses

Aircraft Attacking:
25 x A6M2 Zero bombing at 2000 feet

the depleted daitais from KB will join those planes to get the pilots from exp 30 to at least 65-70 again. And perhaps they can kill those three LCUs that were originally occupying Rabaul, even if 106 attacking planes cause exactly 0 casualties


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Day Air attack on TF, near Bataan at 42,51

Japanese aircraft
D3A Val x 27

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
AK Ethel Edwards, Bomb hits 7, on fire, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet

Here´s the last turn spotted AK. To my surprise (and I had to laugh a bit[:D]) it was not heading to Manila but to Bataan. But Bataan is already Japanese... [;)]


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Day Air attack on Port Moresby , at 53,91

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 35
Ki-21 Sally x 108
Ki-46-II Dinah x 1

No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
32 casualties reported

Airbase hits 4
Airbase supply hits 4
Runway hits 84

Aircraft Attacking:
24 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
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Sub attack at 32,73

Japanese Ships
AG AG-119, Shell hits 6, on fire, heavy damage

Allied Ships
SS Pompano


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Ground combat at Manila

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 116129 troops, 1450 guns, 41 vehicles, Assault Value = 2603

Defending force 99511 troops, 758 guns, 355 vehicles, Assault Value = 2266



Allied ground losses:
159 casualties reported


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Ground combat at 48,37

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 234865 troops, 3050 guns, 67 vehicles, Assault Value = 4910

Defending force 67453 troops, 141 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1577



Allied ground losses:
546 casualties reported
Guns lost 11


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Ground combat at Merauke

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 459 troops, 5 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 13

Defending force 0 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 0

Japanese max assault: 9 - adjusted assault: 3

Allied max defense: 0 - adjusted defense: 1

Japanese assault odds: 3 to 1 (fort level 0)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Merauke base !!!



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Ground combat at 48,37

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 42011 troops, 101 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1535

Defending force 251770 troops, 3073 guns, 67 vehicles, Assault Value = 4910


I would like to order all those troops to deliberate attack but only the first 5 or 6 units in the stack have a full supply load. All others don´t have even half of the needed supply and that sitting on a railway next to Nanchang where I have 30.000+ supplies. The supply system once again shows how good it works...

[ny59giants]

I know you have expressed "concerns" about the lack of effective Japanese flak. [X(][X(]
But what kind of flak do the units have?? And are they effective for that range??

Since I have never played the Japanese, yet, I don't know what there normal TOE is for their BF and other untis.

[Big B]

ORIGINAL: ny59giants

I know you have expressed "concerns" about the lack of effective Japanese flak. [X(][X(]
But what kind of flak do the units have?? And are they effective for that range??

Since I have never played the Japanese, yet, I don't know what there normal TOE is for their BF and other untis.

Oh by the way, heeding the call of flak, I have pretty much closed the flak gap off in ver 1.4.
What I decided was best to do was re-rate all AA guns less than 85mm to 25,000 foot ceiling so they will fire at all altitudes (as Nik suggested), and all base forces will "grow" more light AAA by about 50% as soon as the guns are made and supply allows (both sides)...as the war progresses.

I have left all the Heavy AA guns from 85mm and up to their normal 32000+ foot ceilings for two reasons,
1) I feel something should be able to defend that high, and 2) most all of these Hvy weapons come in special Hvy AA units - not base forces. This will allow players to place them to augment base AA as desired for important locations.

Ver 1.4 is almost finished, I am just still soaking up observations, and testing improvements.

[castor troy]

ORIGINAL: ny59giants

I know you have expressed "concerns" about the lack of effective Japanese flak. [X(][X(]
But what kind of flak do the units have?? And are they effective for that range??

Since I have never played the Japanese, yet, I don't know what there normal TOE is for their BF and other untis.

If you are referring to the not firing flak in China. Yes they do have guns, there are base forces with flak guns from 75mm, 40mm (IJA) to 13mm. So why those Chinese bombers aren´t shot at, I don´t know. Perhaps they aren´t seen as a threat!! [:D]

Different in Koepang though. There is a special base force with IIRC 8x75 mm flak, several 3x25 mm and 13mm. BUT there are also two heavy AA regiments with two dozen of 105 mm flak and the same number of 75 mm flak and 13 mm MGs. While I do see some flak bursts in the replay over Koepang, they aren´t effective at all as you can see. In fact it didn´t do me any good to place more "support" LCUs there as they are now only target for the Allied bombers and the casualties every attack are now going up to 500. So, it would be smarter not to place flak at a base, because a) it doesn´t harm Allied bombers anyway and b) you just provide more targets for the bombers... [:D]