Helpless (Allied) vs Castor Troy (Jpn) / BigB 1.3

[castor troy]

ORIGINAL: Big B

ORIGINAL: ny59giants

I know you have expressed "concerns" about the lack of effective Japanese flak. [X(][X(]
But what kind of flak do the units have?? And are they effective for that range??

Since I have never played the Japanese, yet, I don't know what there normal TOE is for their BF and other untis.

Oh by the way, heeding the call of flak, I have pretty much closed the flak gap off in ver 1.4.
What I decided was best to do was re-rate all AA guns less than 85mm to 25,000 foot ceiling so they will fire at all altitudes (as Nik suggested), and all base forces will "grow" more light AAA by about 50% as soon as the guns are made and supply allows (both sides)...as the war progresses.

I have left all the Heavy AA guns from 85mm and up to their normal 32000+ foot ceilings for two reasons,
1) I feel something should be able to defend that high, and 2) most all of these Hvy weapons come in special Hvy AA units - not base forces. This will allow players to place them to augment base AA as desired for important locations.

Ver 1.4 is almost finished, I am just still soaking up observations, and testing improvements.

sounds good! [:D]

[castor troy]

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 03/09/42

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ASW attack near Kendari at 33,71

Japanese Ships
PC Ch 15
PC Sonan Maru #6
PC Sonan Maru #5
MSW W.6
MSW W.2
MSW W.1

Allied Ships
SS Pompano

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Day Air attack on Chengting , at 52,28

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 1

Allied aircraft
SB-2c x 51

Japanese aircraft losses
No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
SB-2c: 3 damaged

Airbase hits 5
Runway hits 7

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x SB-2c bombing at 6000 feet

The four base forces at Chengting decided to fire a couple of their guns and managed to damage 3 bombers out of 51 that were bombing at 6000 ft...

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Day Air attack on Andaman Island , at 23,34


Allied aircraft
LB-30 Liberator x 16


No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
7 casualties reported

Airbase hits 1
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 5

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x LB-30 Liberator bombing at 13000 feet



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Day Air attack on Soerabaja , at 22,65

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 34
Ki-21 Sally x 95

Allied aircraft
Hawk 75A x 3
Brewster 339D x 2

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21 Sally: 11 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
Hawk 75A: 1 destroyed, 2 damaged
Brewster 339D: 2 damaged


Allied ground losses:
72 casualties reported
Guns lost 5

Airbase hits 6
Airbase supply hits 3
Runway hits 34

Aircraft Attacking:
18 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 15000 feet
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Day Air attack on NGVR Battalion, at 60,89

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 115
D3A Val x 30
B5N Kate x 50

No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
28 casualties reported

Aircraft Attacking:
21 x A6M2 Zero bombing at 2000 feet
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Ground combat at Manila

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 116184 troops, 1452 guns, 41 vehicles, Assault Value = 2609

Defending force 99502 troops, 758 guns, 355 vehicles, Assault Value = 2263



Allied ground losses:
185 casualties reported


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Ground combat at 48,37

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 234707 troops, 3040 guns, 66 vehicles, Assault Value = 5674

Defending force 123967 troops, 278 guns, 107 vehicles, Assault Value = 3269



Allied ground losses:
727 casualties reported
Guns lost 7
Vehicles lost 12

as long as my bombardments are doing such damage I won´t deliberate attack. This turn the supply system decided to move some supplies from the base one hex away to my undersupplied troops and all are now fully supplied. [&o]


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Ground combat at Taiping

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 6413 troops, 0 guns, 420 vehicles, Assault Value = 242

Defending force 1676 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 37

Japanese max assault: 223 - adjusted assault: 122

Allied max defense: 30 - adjusted defense: 3

Japanese assault odds: 40 to 1



Allied ground losses:
108 casualties reported


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Ground combat at 48,37

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 42166 troops, 104 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 3220

Defending force 287570 troops, 3502 guns, 73 vehicles, Assault Value = 5674


Japanese ground losses:
12 casualties reported



Once again, China proves to be weird, relating to ground movement. The Chinese troops in Pucheng should be static, though I see them marching out of the base this turn... Wonderful isn´t it? I thought static LCUs get non static when they are forced to retreat? Those troops there (the original ones) never retreated. I asked my opponent about what happened there and why those static troops are moving. Got as answer that troops that static troops that lose one squad are no longer static. If that is really true then it won´t take long and all static troops in China get non static. [:@][8|][:@] So with the 100 LCUs moving around already there will then be another 50 rolling in my direction... [:D]




Brian,

have you seen my assumptions about the penetration and gun value of Japanese fighter armament against 2 armored bombers? Is this correct what I´m saying or am I completely wrong here?

[Big B]

ORIGINAL: castor troy

Brian,

have you seen my assumptions about the penetration and gun value of Japanese fighter armament against 2 armored bombers? Is this correct what I´m saying or am I completely wrong here?[/color]

No, actually I had not seen your comment, but I had already come to the conclusion that something is out of balance here and I am looking at two options:
1) lower armor value on bombers
2) increase penetraion value on .50(+) guns.

I am inclined to do the first...

[castor troy]

ORIGINAL: Big B

ORIGINAL: castor troy

Brian,

have you seen my assumptions about the penetration and gun value of Japanese fighter armament against 2 armored bombers? Is this correct what I´m saying or am I completely wrong here?[/color]

No, actually I had not seen your comment, but I had already come to the conclusion that something is out of balance here and I am looking at two options:
1) lower armor value on bombers
2) increase penetraion value on .50(+) guns.

I am inclined to do the first...

But am I right that even if the Zero and the Tojo or Tony have the same gun value the Tojo and Tony should do better because all of their guns can penetrate the bombers´armor? Or am I completely on the wrong way here?

[castor troy]

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 03/10/42

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TF 1037 encounters mine field at Canton Island (98,99)

Allied Ships
DD Hatfield, Mine hits 1, on fire, heavy damage

nice one! Canton is still a level 2 port so Hatfield can´t be disbanded into port. Heavy damage so perhaps I´m either lucky that she´s already sinking or I get her on the way to a bigger port...


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TF 1054 encounters mine field at Canton Island (98,99)

Allied Ships
DMS Hovey

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Sub attack near Kendari at 33,71

Japanese Ships
APD APD-37
MSW W.14
MSW W.13
APD APD-39
APD APD-38
APD APD-34

Allied Ships
SS Pompano

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Day Air attack on Andaman Island , at 23,34


Allied aircraft
LB-30 Liberator x 18


No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
7 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Runway hits 2

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x LB-30 Liberator bombing at 13000 feet

the base force there doesn´t put up flak fire

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Day Air attack on Soerabaja , at 22,65

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 35
Ki-21 Sally x 96

Allied aircraft
Hawk 75A x 4
CW-21B Demon x 1
Brewster 339D x 3

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-43-Ib Oscar: 1 destroyed
Ki-21 Sally: 1 destroyed, 6 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
Hawk 75A: 2 destroyed, 1 damaged
Brewster 339D: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged


Allied ground losses:
64 casualties reported
Guns lost 4

Airbase hits 4
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 60

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 15000 feet

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Day Air attack on Manila , at 43,52

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 9
Ki-21 Sally x 112
Ki-15 Babs x 8

No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
91 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Airbase hits 6
Airbase supply hits 4
Runway hits 58

Aircraft Attacking:
20 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 10000 feet
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Day Air attack on Lark Force Battalion, at 60,89

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 175
D3A Val x 30

No Japanese losses

Aircraft Attacking:
21 x A6M2 Zero bombing at 2000 feet


what about that one? 205 planes are dropping bombs, inflicting 0 casualties... will take long to get those LCUs to die at that rate... [:-]


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Day Air attack on 41st PA Division, at 43,52

Japanese aircraft
Ki-49 Helen x 35

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-49 Helen: 1 damaged


Allied ground losses:
84 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Aircraft Attacking:
20 x Ki-49 Helen bombing at 10000 feet

first attack on LCU. Sometime I will have to figure out why not all ordered planes on ground attack are flying. Two daitais with 27 planes each were ordered for the attack and actually 35 are flying. On port or airfield attack, all planes are flying...[8|]

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Day Air attack on Guam , at 62,66

Japanese aircraft
D3A Val x 46
B5N Kate x 105

No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
12 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Airbase hits 3
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 29
Port hits 2
Port supply hits 3

Aircraft Attacking:
18 x B5N Kate bombing at 20000 feet

no more counterfire over Guam

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Day Air attack on Norfolk Island , at 60,119

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 54
G4M1 Betty x 49

Allied aircraft
no flights

Japanese aircraft losses
G4M1 Betty: 1 destroyed, 3 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
PBY Catalina: 1 destroyed


Allied ground losses:
8 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Runway hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
17 x G4M1 Betty bombing at 6000 feet

on Norfolk Island there are reported 2000 troops. Watching the replay there are a lot of flak bursts in the air. This attack leads to the loss of 5!! Betties and 2 Zeroes. Weather was overcast, range 11, fatigue 0, morale 90-99, all daitais exp. well above 70. Hard to see those losses when I think about the many attacks on Koepang out of Darwin at the same range of 11 suffering fewer losses all in all in dozens attacks with more bombers. [:(]






5 of the fragile bombers were lost to unknown reasons. Could call the Betty not just flying cigar but also flying egg...



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Ground combat at Manila

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 116316 troops, 1455 guns, 41 vehicles, Assault Value = 3092

Defending force 99415 troops, 753 guns, 356 vehicles, Assault Value = 2268



Allied ground losses:
211 casualties reported


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Ground combat at Soerabaja

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 68324 troops, 721 guns, 5 vehicles, Assault Value = 1489

Defending force 43902 troops, 381 guns, 92 vehicles, Assault Value = 728



Allied ground losses:
102 casualties reported
Vehicles lost 1

next round another BB bombardment should go in. Then I will order the first attack. Don´t have engineer regiments with my divisions so I hope forts are not already too high and the implemented combat engineers in my LCUs will be able to deal with them.

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Ground combat at 48,37

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 234789 troops, 3044 guns, 64 vehicles, Assault Value = 5673

Defending force 123581 troops, 286 guns, 94 vehicles, Assault Value = 3241



Allied ground losses:
609 casualties reported
Guns lost 9
Vehicles lost 26

Many troops now. Changsha (two hexes west) reports another 100.000 troops with 12 units on the way as reinforcement from Chungking. The 50 LCUs in the Sian-Homan-area are not moving at the moment.


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Ground combat at Taiping

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 6403 troops, 0 guns, 419 vehicles, Assault Value = 241

Defending force 1555 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 26

Japanese max assault: 219 - adjusted assault: 211

Allied max defense: 21 - adjusted defense: 3

Japanese assault odds: 70 to 1


Japanese ground losses:
6 casualties reported
Vehicles lost 1

Allied ground losses:
2575 casualties reported


British guerilla unit surrendered...[&o][&o]

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Ground combat at Malang

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 779 troops, 5 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 33

Defending force 0 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 0

Japanese max assault: 38 - adjusted assault: 40

Allied max defense: 0 - adjusted defense: 1

Japanese assault odds: 40 to 1 (fort level 2)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Malang base !!!


paratroops took the base south east of Soerabaja, no more bases to retreat for the Dutch on Java now.

[Big B]

ORIGINAL: castor troy

ORIGINAL: Big B

ORIGINAL: castor troy

Brian,

have you seen my assumptions about the penetration and gun value of Japanese fighter armament against 2 armored bombers? Is this correct what I´m saying or am I completely wrong here?[/color]

No, actually I had not seen your comment, but I had already come to the conclusion that something is out of balance here and I am looking at two options:
1) lower armor value on bombers
2) increase penetraion value on .50(+) guns.

I am inclined to do the first...

But am I right that even if the Zero and the Tojo or Tony have the same gun value the Tojo and Tony should do better because all of their guns can penetrate the bombers´armor? Or am I completely on the wrong way here?

well,
The Tojo and the Tony should do better than the Zero - in as far as Tojo and Tony do not sport twin 7.7mm mgs. However, the Zero has a pair of 20mm cannons, and as far as I recall - the Tojo and Tony (initially) will be armed with 4x.50 hmgs. So the Zero's twin 20mm's will have more individual effect (in pen and effect) that the .50 hmg's.

Note that I didn't change gun values from stock (effect and armor penetration) - only an across the board lowering of accuracy. I did increase the armor level on 4E bombers from 1 to 2.

So it stands to reason that if I put the 4E Bombers armor value back to 1, the Japanese Zeroes, Tojos, and Tonies will be as effective as they were in stock with chances of destroying a 4E Bomber - when they hit them.

Did that answer your question?

[castor troy]

ORIGINAL: Big B

ORIGINAL: castor troy

ORIGINAL: Big B


No, actually I had not seen your comment, but I had already come to the conclusion that something is out of balance here and I am looking at two options:
1) lower armor value on bombers
2) increase penetraion value on .50(+) guns.

I am inclined to do the first...

But am I right that even if the Zero and the Tojo or Tony have the same gun value the Tojo and Tony should do better because all of their guns can penetrate the bombers´armor? Or am I completely on the wrong way here?

well,
The Tojo and the Tony should do better than the Zero - in as far as Tojo and Tony do not sport twin 7.7mm mgs. However, the Zero has a pair of 20mm cannons, and as far as I recall - the Tojo and Tony (initially) will be armed with 4x.50 hmgs. So the Zero's twin 20mm's will have more individual effect (in pen and effect) that the .50 hmg's.

Note that I didn't change gun values from stock (effect and armor penetration) - only an across the board lowering of accuracy. I did increase the armor level on 4E bombers from 1 to 2.

So it stands to reason that if I put the 4E Bombers armor value back to 1, the Japanese Zeroes, Tojos, and Tonies will be as effective as they were in stock with chances of destroying a 4E Bomber - when they hit them.

Did that answer your question?

Ahh, I see. I didn´t think about the effect of the guns, only the penetration ability of the bombers armor.

Thanks

[castor troy]

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 03/11/42

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TF 2 encounters mine field at Luganville (72,107)

Japanese Ships
AK Asama Maru, Mine hits 1, on fire

this turn one of my ships hit a sub laid mine. Float at 37 heading on cruise to Lunga (port 4)

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Night Time Surface Combat, near Norfolk Island at 60,119

Japanese Ships
DD Arare
DD Fubuki
DD Shinonome
DD Usugumo
DD Sagiri

Allied Ships
AK Mormacdove, Shell hits 6, Torpedo hits 3, and is sunk

I tried to attack this ship three times but every time it was able to react and flee. Not this time


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Naval bombardment of Soerabaja, at 22,65 - Coastal Guns Fire Back!

32 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.
Japanese Ships
CA Nachi, Shell hits 1
CA Maya
CA Takao
BB Yamashiro
BB Fuso
BB Mutsu, Shell hits 1


Allied ground losses:
327 casualties reported
Guns lost 7
Vehicles lost 8

Last attempt of a naval bombardment here as it hasn´t much effect anyway and sys damage of the ships is already high

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ASW attack at 22,62

Japanese Ships
DD Asagumo
DD Asashio
DD Shiranuhi
DD Isokaze
DD Natsushio
DD Kagero

Allied Ships
SS O23, hits 1

real hit, not much damage though...

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Day Air attack on Homan , at 49,30

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21 Sally x 80

Allied aircraft
no flights

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21 Sally: 4 damaged

Allied aircraft losses


Allied ground losses:
120 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Airbase hits 23
Airbase supply hits 4
Runway hits 85

Aircraft Attacking:
11 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet

airbase of the Chinese bombers, completely empty when the Sallies arrive.



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Day Air attack on Ichang , at 47,33

Japanese aircraft
Ki-27 Nate x 7

Allied aircraft
SB-2c x 51

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-27 Nate: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
SB-2c: 7 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
11 casualties reported

Airbase hits 10
Airbase supply hits 4
Runway hits 52

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x SB-2c bombing at 6000 feet

Nates are the Japanese Wirraways...


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Day Air attack on Ichang , at 47,33

Japanese aircraft
Ki-27 Nate x 7

Allied aircraft
Blenheim I x 25
Blenheim IV x 71
IL-4c x 15

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
Blenheim IV: 4 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
34 casualties reported

Airbase hits 19
Airbase supply hits 4
Runway hits 74

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x IL-4c bombing at 6000 feet
6 x Blenheim IV bombing at 6000 feet


nearly 100 British bombers attacking out of Chungking.

As other house rules that were in the game for the first month were screwed also (due to concerns of my opponent) it seems he isn´t interested in following this house rule either:

limited air offensives (limited means not the whole British airforce and 3 US 4E bomber squadrons in China ). 90% of the British bombers in China when Japanese units are marching towards the last British bastion in Burma... [8|]

He will surely say that 100 British bombers are not the WHOLE British airforce... I´M JUST COMPLETELY SICK OF DISCUSSING HOUSE RULES ON AND ON AND ON WHEN SOMEONE HAS AGREED ON THEM BEFORE STARTING THE GAME!!!! [:@][:@] Placing 100 British bombers in China in March 42 is exactly what this house rule was for.

I´ve said often enough that I didn´t look for an Allied opponent, only for an opponent so I would have played with this house rules as Allied also - like with all other house rules we started off. Though my opponent finds those house rules too restricting as hours of discussing (after being long into the game) showed.

I´m just sick of it...


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Day Air attack on Manila , at 43,52

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 9
Ki-21 Sally x 113
Ki-15 Babs x 8

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21 Sally: 2 damaged


Allied ground losses:
104 casualties reported
Guns lost 1
Vehicles lost 1

Airbase hits 16
Airbase supply hits 5
Runway hits 90

Aircraft Attacking:
15 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 10000 feet


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Day Air attack on 14th CCP Guerilla Brigade, at 49,40

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 10
Ki-27 Nate x 285
Ki-30 Ann x 12
Ki-32 Mary x 12
Ki-51 Sonia x 40

No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
18 casualties reported

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x Ki-32 Mary bombing at 2000 feet

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Day Air attack on 1st KNIL Regiment, at 22,65

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21 Sally x 14

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21 Sally: 1 damaged


Allied ground losses:
6 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Aircraft Attacking:
5 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 15000 feet
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Day Air attack on 2nd KNIL Regiment, at 22,65

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 30
Ki-21 Sally x 44

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21 Sally: 4 damaged


Allied ground losses:
12 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Aircraft Attacking:
17 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 15000 feet
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Day Air attack on 4th KNIL Regiment, at 22,65

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 3
Ki-21 Sally x 17

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21 Sally: 2 damaged


Allied ground losses:
6 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Aircraft Attacking:
5 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 15000 feet
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Day Air attack on 41st PA Division, at 43,52

Japanese aircraft
Ki-49 Helen x 38

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-49 Helen: 1 damaged


Allied ground losses:
68 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Aircraft Attacking:
11 x Ki-49 Helen bombing at 10000 feet
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Day Air attack on No. 101 RAAF Base Force, at 60,89

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 184
D3A Val x 3

No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
81 casualties reported

Aircraft Attacking:
21 x A6M2 Zero bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on Koepang , at 28,77


Allied aircraft
Hudson I x 42
B-17D Fortress x 9
B-17E Fortress x 82


Allied aircraft losses
B-17E Fortress: 1 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
792 casualties reported
Guns lost 9

Airbase hits 4
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 86

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x Hudson I bombing at 6000 feet


here they come again! No plane lost, neither due to not existing flak, nor to op losses.

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Day Air attack on Guam , at 62,66

Japanese aircraft
D3A Val x 50
B5N Kate x 121

No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
23 casualties reported

Airbase hits 2
Airbase supply hits 5
Runway hits 45
Port hits 3
Port fuel hits 1
Port supply hits 2

Aircraft Attacking:
5 x B5N Kate bombing at 20000 feet
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Day Air attack on Port Moresby , at 53,91

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 35
Ki-21 Sally x 96
Ki-46-II Dinah x 1

No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
11 casualties reported

Runway hits 20
Port hits 1
Port fuel hits 1
Port supply hits 4

Aircraft Attacking:
13 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
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Sub attack near Koepang at 28,77

Japanese Ships
AG AG-375, Shell hits 8, on fire, heavy damage

Allied Ships
SS Trout


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Ground combat at Manila

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 116344 troops, 1452 guns, 41 vehicles, Assault Value = 3092

Defending force 98651 troops, 748 guns, 353 vehicles, Assault Value = 2267



Allied ground losses:
201 casualties reported
Guns lost 1


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Ground combat at Soerabaja

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 68406 troops, 723 guns, 6 vehicles, Assault Value = 1493

Defending force 43300 troops, 378 guns, 84 vehicles, Assault Value = 711



Allied ground losses:
92 casualties reported


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Ground combat at 48,37

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 234944 troops, 3041 guns, 64 vehicles, Assault Value = 5682

Defending force 123104 troops, 288 guns, 59 vehicles, Assault Value = 3206



Allied ground losses:
441 casualties reported
Guns lost 6
Vehicles lost 16


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Ground combat at 48,37

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 103779 troops, 254 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 3171

Defending force 287980 troops, 3501 guns, 71 vehicles, Assault Value = 5682


Japanese ground losses:
13 casualties reported
Guns lost 1


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Ground combat at Soerabaja

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 23696 troops, 245 guns, 65 vehicles, Assault Value = 711

Defending force 77150 troops, 743 guns, 6 vehicles, Assault Value = 1493


Japanese ground losses:
15 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

[anarchyintheuk]

ORIGINAL: castor troy


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Ground combat at 48,37

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 42166 troops, 104 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 3220

Defending force 287570 troops, 3502 guns, 73 vehicles, Assault Value = 5674


Japanese ground losses:
12 casualties reported



Once again, China proves to be weird, relating to ground movement. The Chinese troops in Pucheng should be static, though I see them marching out of the base this turn... Wonderful isn´t it? I thought static LCUs get non static when they are forced to retreat? Those troops there (the original ones) never retreated. I asked my opponent about what happened there and why those static troops are moving. Got as answer that troops that static troops that lose one squad are no longer static. If that is really true then it won´t take long and all static troops in China get non static. [:@][8|][:@] So with the 100 LCUs moving around already there will then be another 50 rolling in my direction... [:D]

I thought retreat released them as well. [X(] Hopefully, that many lcus in motion will reduce his supply. House rule or no, if I saw that many lcus in motion in China some of those same lcus would have to serve as firemen once the IJAAF/IJNAF got through with the Chinese industry.

Edited to preserve effect of red print.

[castor troy]

ORIGINAL: anarchyintheuk

ORIGINAL: castor troy


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Ground combat at 48,37

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 42166 troops, 104 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 3220

Defending force 287570 troops, 3502 guns, 73 vehicles, Assault Value = 5674


Japanese ground losses:
12 casualties reported



Once again, China proves to be weird, relating to ground movement. The Chinese troops in Pucheng should be static, though I see them marching out of the base this turn... Wonderful isn´t it? I thought static LCUs get non static when they are forced to retreat? Those troops there (the original ones) never retreated. I asked my opponent about what happened there and why those static troops are moving. Got as answer that troops that static troops that lose one squad are no longer static. If that is really true then it won´t take long and all static troops in China get non static. [:@][8|][:@] So with the 100 LCUs moving around already there will then be another 50 rolling in my direction... [:D]

I thought retreat released them as well. [X(] Hopefully, that many lcus in motion will reduce his supply. House rule or no, if I saw that many lcus in motion in China some of those same lcus would have to serve as firemen once the IJAAF/IJNAF got through with the Chinese industry.

Edited to preserve effect of red print.

My bad! I´m having a game as Allied in an earlier version than 1.31 and there my units in Pucheng are static. In 1.31 the LCUs there are NOT static. So it was a fault of mine to think those troops should stick at that base. Sorry[8|] I think only a retreat makes a static LCU non static.

I don´t know how much supply it really uses to move the troops, I think it won´t use that much that it will effect Chinese operations. Looks like we are now running into a major battle in the Changsha area. Will move into Changsha with about 2000 av to block the troops there (hopefully he can´t kick me out). Then the 125.000 troops west of Nanchang will be surrounded and destroyed!!!!

[castor troy]

About the British bombers in China. Helpless had forgotten about that HR so we will see how it will go on. We now have the problem as he doesn´t know how much British and US bombers he can use in China. I told him he should do like he wishes to do, it just shouldn´t go completely off...

[ny59giants]

I guess a possible house rule (HR) would have to include the opening of the Burma Road "before" huge Chinese offensives could be undertaken to reflect RL. Plus, there should be one that 4e's take up twice the allowed on an AF (since most play with a HR of 50xAF size for basing LBA a AF of size 4 = 200 planes, 1 or 2e, or only 100 4e bombers). I don't know if it would help, but it would reduce the Uber-bombers a little bit. [:D]

[castor troy]

ORIGINAL: ny59giants

I guess a possible house rule (HR) would have to include the opening of the Burma Road "before" huge Chinese offensives could be undertaken to reflect RL. Plus, there should be one that 4e's take up twice the allowed on an AF (since most play with a HR of 50xAF size for basing LBA a AF of size 4 = 200 planes, 1 or 2e, or only 100 4e bombers). I don't know if it would help, but it would reduce the Uber-bombers a little bit. [:D]

That´s a real good idea! Why didn´t I think about that before starting the game. [8|] I fear a house rule to make a 4E count as two planes wouldn´t be accepted by my opponent at this stage of the game as I´m already having problems keeping the house rules we have agreed on BEFORE starting the game.

But for sure I will have that house rule in every other WITP PBEM to come!

[castor troy]

We had a little break and were discussing if and how this game will go on. We decided to have it going on and we will be sticking to all HRs that were agreed on at start and hopefully we won´t be further discussing them.



AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 03/12/42

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Day Air attack on Manila , at 43,52

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 8
Ki-21 Sally x 113
Ki-15 Babs x 7

No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
88 casualties reported
Guns lost 2

Airbase hits 5
Airbase supply hits 8
Runway hits 48

Aircraft Attacking:
20 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 10000 feet
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Day Air attack on 2nd KNIL Regiment, at 22,65

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 30
Ki-21 Sally x 37

Allied aircraft
Hawk 75A x 4
CW-21B Demon x 3

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21 Sally: 1 destroyed, 3 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
Hawk 75A: 1 damaged
CW-21B Demon: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged


Allied ground losses:
10 casualties reported

Aircraft Attacking:
15 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 15000 feet

Dutch flak claims two Sallies shot down today!

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Day Air attack on Lark Force Battalion, at 60,89

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 167
D3A Val x 10

No Japanese losses

Aircraft Attacking:
21 x A6M2 Zero bombing at 2000 feet

don´t know why Lark base force never suffers any casualties. Only radar or a gun left perhaps? [:(]

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Day Air attack on 31st PA Division, at 43,52

Japanese aircraft
Ki-49 Helen x 38

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-49 Helen: 1 damaged


Allied ground losses:
54 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Aircraft Attacking:
18 x Ki-49 Helen bombing at 10000 feet

38 seems the magic number as always 38 out of 54 Helens seem to fly.

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Day Air attack on Guam , at 62,66

Japanese aircraft
D3A Val x 49
B5N Kate x 127

No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
45 casualties reported
Vehicles lost 1

Airbase hits 2
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 37
Port supply hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x B5N Kate bombing at 20000 feet


two US subs spotted at Guam. Don´t know if they are bringing supply or evacuating a fragment of the US troops there. Both is secondary as they can´t bring much supply and it doesn´t matter if there´s one or two more base forces to the hundreds that will be available to the Allied. Already thought about putting ALL my torp and divebombers there on ASW but didn´t do it as this seemed too gamey...

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ASW attack at 103,100

Japanese Ships
SS I-19

Allied Ships
AK Mormacrio
AK Donald McKay
AK Manulani
APD McKean
APD Gregory
APD Colhoun
APD Manley

convoy heading towards Pago Pago. If it stays on this shipping lane then it has to avoid four of my subs that will be placed in it´s way for the next two or three turns it will need to reach Pago Pago.


APD Gregory was the only escort that tried an attacked that failed.





-- U.S. NAVY SHIPS --
USS Gregory (DD-82, later APD-3), 1918-1942
USS Gregory, a 1060-ton Wickes class destroyer, was built at Quincy, Massachusetts. Commissioned in June 1918, she escorted convoys between France and England until early November 1918, then patrolled out of Gibraltar. During the months after the 11 November Armistice, Gregory operated in the Mediterranean and Black Seas supporting diplomatic and relief efforts. She was intermittently active after her return to the U.S. in June 1919 and was formally decommissioned at the Philadelphia Navy Yard in July 1922.

After nearly two decades in reserve, Gregory was recalled to active duty and converted to a high speed transport. Recommissioned with the new hull number APD-3 in November 1940, she conducted amphibious warfare training in the Atlantic and Caribbean into early 1942, then was transferred to the Pacific. She took part in exercises in Hawaiian waters and off the west coast until mid-1942.

Gregory next was ordered to the south Pacific, where the Allies' first major offensive against the Japanese was being prepared. On 7 August 1942, she landed Marines during the invasion of Guadalcanal and Tulagi, in the southern Solomon Islands. For the next month, she provided transport and other support services in the area. On the night of 4-5 September 1942, while patrolling off Guadalcanal's Lunga Point in company with USS Little (APD-4), she encountered a greatly superior force of Japanese destroyers. In a brief, intense and very-one sided battle, Gregory was riddled with enemy gunfire and soon sank.

In July 1992, nearly fifty years after her loss, a sunken U.S. Navy high-speed transport was discovered and briefly examined on the sea floor some miles off Lunga Point. Though its specific indentity could not be determined, this ship is either USS Gregory or her sister, USS Little.







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Ground combat at Manila

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 163640 troops, 1704 guns, 48 vehicles, Assault Value = 3097

Defending force 98074 troops, 745 guns, 353 vehicles, Assault Value = 2269

Japanese engineers reduce fortifications to 2

Japanese max assault: 2999 - adjusted assault: 834

Allied max defense: 2147 - adjusted defense: 4325

Japanese assault odds: 0 to 1 (fort level 2)


Japanese ground losses:
6730 casualties reported
Guns lost 105
Vehicles lost 22

Allied ground losses:
794 casualties reported
Guns lost 38
Vehicles lost 5

OUCH!! The expected bloody affair! I completely wrecked a big SNLF that was in the lead of this attack. It is now at 2(172)[X(][X(][X(] Also the next unit, a brigade, was hit hard. The forts weren´t high, so the bombing has prevented any building of forts but the urban bonus proves once again to be a killer! Troops will now be rested for a couple of days and try another attack. Hopefully I will see a remarkable decrease in Allied assault value then. Why my adjusted assault value is only 28% of the max assault I don´t know...


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Ground combat at Soerabaja

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 68638 troops, 731 guns, 6 vehicles, Assault Value = 1503

Defending force 43290 troops, 383 guns, 86 vehicles, Assault Value = 718

Japanese max assault: 1348 - adjusted assault: 795

Allied max defense: 667 - adjusted defense: 3049

Japanese assault odds: 0 to 1 (fort level 8)


Japanese ground losses:
1294 casualties reported
Guns lost 22
Vehicles lost 1

Allied ground losses:
271 casualties reported
Guns lost 12


OUCH second time!!! Forts level 8!!! [X(] Wooden hex. No chance it seems with the troops I have there. Also it will just take too long to starve the Dutch so the ground attacks will be on halt until either the Philipines or Burma has been cleared to bring in two or three divisions (and even more important engineers) to take care of the 44.000 Dutch.
Also here, the adjusted assault value has been really decreased.



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Ground combat at 48,37

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 235301 troops, 3041 guns, 65 vehicles, Assault Value = 5915

Defending force 120586 troops, 282 guns, 43 vehicles, Assault Value = 3152



Allied ground losses:
386 casualties reported
Guns lost 4
Vehicles lost 9


Helpless´ troops can´t move so I have agreed to take my troops out of the hex.


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Ground combat at 48,37

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 97466 troops, 253 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 3117

Defending force 294080 troops, 3510 guns, 450 vehicles, Assault Value = 5915


Japanese ground losses:
21 casualties reported
Guns lost 1


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Ground combat at Soerabaja

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 23501 troops, 239 guns, 67 vehicles, Assault Value = 699

Defending force 74843 troops, 675 guns, 3 vehicles, Assault Value = 1384

[ny59giants]

Why my adjusted assault value is only 28% of the max assault I don´t know...

Usually this is a reflection of supply, support levels, and disruption. For this, its probably supply levels of your troops was below what was needed. After resting, go through and check the supply levels of each unit before the next assault.

[castor troy]

ORIGINAL: ny59giants

Why my adjusted assault value is only 28% of the max assault I don´t know...

Usually this is a reflection of supply, support levels, and disruption. For this, its probably supply levels of your troops was below what was needed. After resting, go through and check the supply levels of each unit before the next assault.

that´s what I have done before my attack already! Supply levels were okay in each unit and there are around 40.000 supplies in the Northern Philipines that I have brought. Disruption was very low, like fatigue was in normal ranges. There are even enough support squads that no infantry unit is low on support. That´s why I really was surprised about my adjusted value. The value of the defenders wasn´t as surprising as I knew what the urban hex bonus means. Not to forget that my troops have a very high preparation for Manila already too! [:(]

[ny59giants]

I was just mentioning the usually suspects. [;)]  There have been so many threads about the various combat routines, that I didn't want to start another mini-thread in your AAR. [:D]
Best advise I could give you is to throw out the dice that came with your PBEM and try to get a set that isn't loaded.

[castor troy]

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 03/13/42

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TF 1133 encounters mine field at Canton Island (98,99)

Allied Ships
MSW Rail
MSW Turkey
DMS Elliot
DMS Wasmuth


the spotted TF last turn was lost, it seems it didn´t continue to move on the shipping lane to Pago Pago

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ASW attack at 67,113

Japanese Ships
DD Sagiri
DD Usugumo
DD Shinonome
DD Fubuki
DD Arare

Allied Ships
SS Grenadier


DDs all fail to find submarine...

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Sub attack near Noumea at 68,113

Japanese Ships
PC Ch 24
PC Takunan Maru #10
PC Tama Maru #8
PC Toshi Maru #3
PG Kogyoku Maru
PG Chitose Maru

Allied Ships
SS Haddock, hits 1

so far those Patrol boats are performing better ASW than the twice as experienced DDs do. While DDs mostly fail to locate the subs, the low exp patrols often do engage and at least drop some DCs.

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TF 1133 encounters mine field at Canton Island (98,99)

Allied Ships
MSW Rail
MSW Turkey
DMS Elliot
DMS Wasmuth

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Day Air attack on Manila , at 43,52

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 8
Ki-21 Sally x 114
Ki-15 Babs x 7

No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
93 casualties reported
Vehicles lost 1

Airbase hits 3
Airbase supply hits 5
Runway hits 91

Aircraft Attacking:
11 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 10000 feet
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Day Air attack on 83rd Regional Army Corps, at 48,39

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 18
Ki-27 Nate x 258

No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
32 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Aircraft Attacking:
36 x Ki-27 Nate bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on Lark Force Battalion, at 60,89

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 172
D3A Val x 31

No Japanese losses

Aircraft Attacking:
21 x A6M2 Zero bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on 31st USA Regimental Combat Team, at 43,52

Japanese aircraft
Ki-49 Helen x 40

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-49 Helen: 1 damaged


Allied ground losses:
43 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Aircraft Attacking:
20 x Ki-49 Helen bombing at 10000 feet

wow, this time 40 Helens attacked. Doesn´t really matter if all 54 or only 40 attack as inflicted casualties are never really high. If flak fire allows it, then I will soon shift in some army dive bombers for ground attack duty

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Day Air attack on Koepang , at 28,77


Allied aircraft
Hudson I x 42
B-17D Fortress x 7
B-17E Fortress x 75


No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
319 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Airbase hits 4
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 75

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x Hudson I bombing at 10000 feet

the base looks like the moon. This turn a evac TF was able to bring out the first three units. All but one will follow. The last one will stay in place with the 5000 supplies that are there. Barges are bringing in more if needed, but supply will only be burnt by the Allied bombers anyway. An invasion of Northern Australia has to come, though time seems a problem for us now. We are stalled in Java and Manila will take some time also. Then the troops have to rest, I need carrier cover also. Until then there will be 200 4Es I fear and not to forget the torp carrying Beauforts in BIG numbers. This will be tough.... Hopefully Helpless won´t bring many US LCUs to Australia and he builds up further East but I doubt that and think Australia will be his staging point for attacks into the SRA.

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Day Air attack on Port Moresby , at 53,91

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 27
Ki-21 Sally x 82
Ki-46-II Dinah x 1

No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
23 casualties reported

Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 17
Port hits 2
Port supply hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet

I would prefer if he would try to fight (and reinforce) for PM, but he seems not so crazy to do that... [:D]


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Ground combat at Soerabaja

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 66320 troops, 659 guns, 3 vehicles, Assault Value = 1394

Defending force 42891 troops, 380 guns, 86 vehicles, Assault Value = 705



Allied ground losses:
32 casualties reported
Guns lost 1
Vehicles lost 1

our attack hasn´t had any effect (at least on the Dutch) [;)]


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Ground combat at 48,38

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 26596 troops, 352 guns, 143 vehicles, Assault Value = 579

Defending force 15200 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 0

Japanese max assault: 552 - adjusted assault: 819

Allied max defense: 0 - adjusted defense: 15

Japanese assault odds: 54 to 1



Allied ground losses:
208 casualties reported


Defeated Allied Units Retreating!

6 Chinese HQs were attacked and retreated the second time. Like the first time only around 200 casualties were inflicted. 208 out of 15200????????????????? [:-][8|]


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Ground combat at Manila

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 3054 troops, 107 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 2460

Defending force 96106 troops, 684 guns, 345 vehicles, Assault Value = 2210



Allied ground losses:
42 casualties reported

Only art units are bombarding, all inf units are resting with double supply and green support. Around 50 assault points are recovered every turn.

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Ground combat at 48,37

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 97886 troops, 255 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 3072

Defending force 62369 troops, 625 guns, 409 vehicles, Assault Value = 1221


Japanese ground losses:
29 casualties reported


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Ground combat at Soerabaja

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 23585 troops, 244 guns, 66 vehicles, Assault Value = 702

Defending force 75054 troops, 679 guns, 3 vehicles, Assault Value = 1394


Japanese ground losses:
12 casualties reported
Guns lost 4

[castor troy]

ORIGINAL: ny59giants

I was just mentioning the usually suspects. [;)]  There have been so many threads about the various combat routines, that I didn't want to start another mini-thread in your AAR. [:D]
Best advise I could give you is to throw out the dice that came with your PBEM and try to get a set that isn't loaded.

I don´t know! I didn´t want to mention a "bad die roll" again! [:D][:D][:D] Though with the usual suspects in the "green" area I thought I would at least have 2000 adjusted assault value, not 800. [:-]

[castor troy]

Situation around Noumea:

What´s really interesting the last couple of turns is the activity around Noumea. As mentioned I moved in a high exp. Sally daitai but they seldom spot, attack or hit a sub. 10 points lower experienced Betties seem to spot and attack like mad. Only 8 Betties are searching (15 hexes) but attack, attack, attack.

27 Sallies have been on search or ASW (8 hexes) but rarely something happened. Besides that a Sally did attack and HIT a sub this turn, normally the op report looks like this one of this turn (without the Sally hit...):


OPERATIONAL REPORT FOR 03/13/42

Ki-21 Sally reports periscope at 68, 113
Ki-21 Sally reports radio transmissions at 66, 110
Ki-46-II Dinah reports suspected submarine at 57, 94
Ki-46-II Dinah reports periscope at 68, 113
H8K Emily reports radio transmissions at 64, 109
H8K Emily sighting report: 1 Allied ship at 69,109 , Speed 8 , Moving East
H8K Emily reports shadow in water at 68, 113
H8K Emily sighting report: 1 Allied ship at 66,112 , Speed 11 , Moving Southwest
H8K Emily attacking Narwhal at 66,112
G4M1 Betty reports periscope at 68, 113
G4M1 Betty reports periscope at 68, 113
H8K Emily reports suspected submarine at 64, 109
H8K Emily reports shadow in water at 68, 113
H8K Emily sighting report: 1 Allied ship at 69,107 , Speed 5 , Moving East
G4M1 Betty attacking S-18 at 69,109
G4M1 Betty reports shadow in water at 68, 113
G4M1 Betty reports suspected submarine at 68, 113
G4M1 Betty reports diving submarine at 66, 112
G4M1 Betty reports radio transmissions at 65, 115
G4M1 Betty sighting report: 1 Allied ship at 68,107 , Speed 9 , Moving East
E7K2 Alf reports shadow in water at 68, 113
H8K Emily attacking Plunger at 57,94
E7K2 Alf sighting report: 1 Allied ship at 62,66 , Speed 2 , Moving East
G4M1 Betty reports suspected submarine at 69, 109
G4M1 Betty reports periscope at 68, 113
G4M1 Betty reports shadow in water at 66, 112
G4M1 Betty sighting report: 1 Allied ship at 66,111 , Speed 4 , Moving Southwest
Sighting report: 6 Japanese ships at 70,111 , Speed 7 , Moving Northeast
Sighting report: 3 Japanese ships at 45,55 , Speed 8 , Moving East
Do 24K-2 sighting report: 9 Japanese ships at 30,75 , Speed 7 , Moving East
PBY Catalina reports submarine at 101,104
Ki-15 Babs takes recon photos of Changsha
Ki-46-II Dinah takes recon photos of Homan
Ki-46-II Dinah takes recon photos of Mandalay
Ki-46-II Dinah takes recon photos of Akyab
Ki-15 Babs takes recon photos of Manila
Ki-15 Babs takes recon photos of Manila
Ki-15 Babs takes recon photos of Manila
Ki-15 Babs takes recon photos of Manila
Ki-15 Babs takes recon photos of Manila
Ki-15 Babs takes recon photos of Manila
Ki-15 Babs takes recon photos of Manila
Ki-46-II Dinah takes recon photos of Zamboanga
C5M Babs takes recon photos of Guam
Ki-46-II Dinah takes recon photos of Port Moresby
F-4 Lightning takes recon photos of Noumea
Curtis H81-3A PR takes recon photos of 56th Division
F.K.51 takes recon photos of 9th Base Force
Ki-21 Sally reports suspected submarine at 69, 109
Ki-21 Sally attacking Haddock at 68,113
Haddock is reported HIT
Ki-21 Sally reports shadow in water at 67, 113
Ki-21 Sally reports periscope at 68, 113
Ki-21 Sally reports shadow in water at 66, 112
Ki-46-II Dinah reports suspected submarine at 68, 113
Ki-46-II Dinah reports shadow in water at 68, 113
Ki-46-II Dinah reports periscope at 67, 114
H8K Emily reports periscope at 69, 109
H8K Emily reports shadow in water at 68, 113
H8K Emily sighting report: 1 Allied ship at 39,73 , Speed 3 , Moving Northeast
G4M1 Betty reports radio transmissions at 69, 109
G4M1 Betty attacking Haddock at 68,113
G4M1 Betty reports suspected submarine at 66, 111
H6K4 Mavis sighting report: 1 Allied ship at 84,61 , Speed 10 , Moving East
H8K Emily reports shadow in water at 64, 109
H8K Emily reports diving submarine at 69, 109
H8K Emily reports periscope at 68, 113
H8K Emily reports shadow in water at 68, 113
H8K Emily reports suspected submarine at 66, 110
E7K2 Alf reports shadow in water at 57, 94
G4M1 Betty reports shadow in water at 69, 109
G4M1 Betty reports radio transmissions at 65, 109
G4M1 Betty attacking Grenadier at 67,113
G4M1 Betty reports shadow in water at 68, 113
G4M1 Betty reports suspected submarine at 66, 112
E7K2 Alf reports periscope at 70, 106
H8K Emily sighting report: 1 Allied ship at 28,34 , Speed 10 , Moving Southeast
E7K2 Alf reports shadow in water at 62, 66
E7K2 Alf reports periscope at 62, 66
G4M1 Betty reports suspected submarine at 68, 113
G4M1 Betty reports suspected submarine at 68, 113
G4M1 Betty reports shadow in water at 66, 112
G4M1 Betty sighting report: 1 Allied ship at 66,109 , Speed 11 , Moving Northeast
G4M1 Betty attacking S-28 at 66,110
G4M1 Betty reports shadow in water at 66, 111
H8K Emily reports shadow in water at 62, 66
H8K Emily attacking Searaven at 62,66
Wellington III sighting report: 1 Japanese ship at 100,105 , Speed 22 , Moving Northeast
Blenheim IV sighting report: 1 Japanese ship at 26,34 , Speed 12 , Moving Northwest
B-25C Mitchell sighting report: 1 Japanese ship at 101,103 , Speed 23 , Moving Southwest
Ki-15 Babs takes recon photos of Changsha
Ki-15 Babs takes recon photos of Sian
Ki-46-II Dinah takes recon photos of Homan
Ki-15 Babs takes recon photos of Chungking
Ki-46-II Dinah takes recon photos of Mandalay
Ki-46-II Dinah takes recon photos of Akyab
F.K.51 takes recon photos of Merak
Ki-15 Babs takes recon photos of Soerabaja
Ki-15 Babs takes recon photos of Manila
C5M Babs takes recon photos of Guam
Ki-46-II Dinah takes recon photos of Port Moresby
F-4 Lightning takes recon photos of Noumea
F.K.51 takes recon photos of 25th Special Base Force
Ki-15 Babs takes recon photos of 99th CCP Infantry Corps
Tinian expands port to size 2
Anchorage expands port to size 5
Ulan Bator expands airfield to size 3


It was remarkable for me that the Betties are spotting and attacking far more subs than the Sallies do. I expected the complete opposite because

a) the Sallies are exp. 85, the Betties are 70-75
and
b) 27 Sallies are searching or ASW at range 8 (6000 ft - I never go lower), but only 8 Betties are searching at a range of 15 (6000 ft)

another 80 exp Sally daitai will come in when the airfield is increased by another point which should happen the next three turns I hope.