Helpless (Allied) vs Castor Troy (Jpn) / BigB 1.3

veji1 · Post by **veji1** » Mon Jun 11, 2007 5:11 pm

that should mean she sank during the day movement resolution phase no ?

anarchyintheuk · Post by **anarchyintheuk** » Mon Jun 11, 2007 5:14 pm

ORIGINAL: castor troy

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Day Air attack on TF at 62,120

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 135

Allied aircraft
F4F-3 Wildcat x 2
F4F-4 Wildcat x 9
SBD Dauntless x 143
TBD Devastator x 61

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 4 destroyed, 13 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
F4F-3 Wildcat: 2 destroyed
F4F-4 Wildcat: 9 destroyed
SBD Dauntless: 73 destroyed
TBD Devastator: 43 destroyed

Japanese Ships
CVE Hosho
BB Kongo
CV Akagi, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
CVE Taiyo, Bomb hits 2, on fire
BB Hiei
CV Shokaku, Bomb hits 1, on fire
CVL Shoho
CV Junyo, Bomb hits 2, on fire
BB Kirishima
CS Nisshin
CVL Ryujo
CV Kaga

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x SBD Dauntless bombing at 2000 feet
2 x TBD Devastator launching torpedoes at 200 feet

Were all your carriers in one cvtf?

castor troy · Post by **castor troy** » Mon Jun 11, 2007 5:16 pm

ORIGINAL: veji1

that should mean she sank during the day movement resolution phase no ?

unfortunately, no! She was spotted in the morning and the Betties tried to attack her, but failed to locate the burning carrier. Then she was AGAIN spotted in the afternoon. So if she would have been sunk, she wouldn´t have been spotted in the afternoon I think. But you never really can be sure in WITP! [:D]

castor troy · Post by **castor troy** » Mon Jun 11, 2007 5:30 pm

ORIGINAL: anarchyintheuk

ORIGINAL: castor troy

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Day Air attack on TF at 62,120

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 135

Allied aircraft
F4F-3 Wildcat x 2
F4F-4 Wildcat x 9
SBD Dauntless x 143
TBD Devastator x 61

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 4 destroyed, 13 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
F4F-3 Wildcat: 2 destroyed
F4F-4 Wildcat: 9 destroyed
SBD Dauntless: 73 destroyed
TBD Devastator: 43 destroyed

Japanese Ships
CVE Hosho
BB Kongo
CV Akagi, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
CVE Taiyo, Bomb hits 2, on fire
BB Hiei
CV Shokaku, Bomb hits 1, on fire
CVL Shoho
CV Junyo, Bomb hits 2, on fire
BB Kirishima
CS Nisshin
CVL Ryujo
CV Kaga

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x SBD Dauntless bombing at 2000 feet
2 x TBD Devastator launching torpedoes at 200 feet

Were all your carriers in one cvtf?

Yes. In 90% of the cases I use one BIG CV TF as the Japanese (again, max 450 carrier planes due to the house rule). Never had real problems with that. It maximises the AA (though in that case with 6500+ AA it didn´t help anyway), attacks are spread out at a lot of ships (had at least 25 bombers going after the three Kongos in the TF), you don´t need so many escorts (which you don´t have anyway as IJN) and "normally" I don´t have problems with coordinating strikes. Only problem this time was that the first strike had the small escort and the second had the bigger. Though there were far too few escorts anyway. I think if I look at my strikes again, there were two coordinated strikes. Both big enough (in bomber numbers) to kill off one CV TF (with one CV in it each). Only problem were the low number of escorts, which was a result of 80% Cap.

Would I have split my CVs in three or four TFs then I bet I would have at least one carrier sunk (as I often still see a 100+ aircraft going after one TF instead of 50 after each of the four TFs ), though less damaged as I have experienced it before. Not nice to have many CVs damaged but if Hornet will sink then I prefer having a couple of CVs damaged and none sunk in comparison to one sunk and only few damaged. The reason for this is the fact that the time during my carriers are repaired is needed anyway for retraining the daitais.

I have seen splitted IJN carrier TFs too often reacting on their own, not following each other... which has led to more "disasters" than having them in ONE TF (same happened to me too often with Allied CVs also). So even if I play the Allied I usually go for more CVs in one TF then have them all splitted. Even if Helpless managed to get this huge strike he also has lost a carrier (perhaps[:D]). If all three carriers would have been in one TF he would have surely not lost one but probably damaged a couple of mine too. In stock strikes of 50 planes get shot to pieces though in this mod even smaller "not coordinated" strikes manage to get planes doing a bombing run so it´s not as severe as in stock to have smaller strikes. Though you could need some escorts, which you are short anyway with the 80 or 90% CAP settings we had.

castor troy · Post by **castor troy** » Tue Jun 12, 2007 9:35 am

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 05/06/42

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Day Air attack on Taung Gyi , at 33,32

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 33

Allied aircraft
P-40C Tomahawk x 9
A-20B Boston x 15

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 1 destroyed, 2 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
P-40C Tomahawk: 4 destroyed, 1 damaged
A-20B Boston: 1 destroyed, 4 damaged

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x A-20B Boston bombing at 9000 feet

moved 54 Zeroes into Taung Gyi and with 90% Cap 33 get in the air doing not that much damage. The aircraft symbol immediately attracted a bomber strike (as everytime before when I moved some recons in). Had to laugh, Helpless was again lucky as Dacca (main bomber base with 200 bombers) was clouded and it was reported that airstrikes out of Dacca were cancelled. This means for sure also the 200 bombers from Dacca were ordered to attack Taung Gyi (unescorted due to the range). Oh well... moved the Zeroes out again as I´m expecting a "super sweep" of P40s.

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Day Air attack on Koepang , at 28,77

Allied aircraft
Hudson I x 38
B-17E Fortress x 19
F-4 Lightning x 2

No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
70 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Airbase hits 4
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 54

Aircraft Attacking:
7 x Hudson I bombing at 6000 feet
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Day Air attack on Manila , at 43,52

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 118
Ki-27 Nate x 48

No Japanese losses

Allied ground losses:
6 casualties reported

Airbase hits 6
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 31

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x Ki-27 Nate bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on 101st PA Reserve Division, at 42,59

Japanese aircraft
Ki-49 Helen x 15
Ki-46-II Dinah x 2

No Japanese losses

Allied ground losses:
13 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x Ki-49 Helen bombing at 11000 feet

Cap and ground attacks seem to always lead to only half of the ordered planes to launch... what kind of "anomaly" is this? Get 100% planes to launch on escort and airfield attack...

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Day Air attack on Manila , at 43,52

Japanese aircraft
D3A Val x 17
B5N Kate x 59
G3M Nell x 35
G4M1 Betty x 9

No Japanese losses

Allied ground losses:
135 casualties reported
Vehicles lost 2

Airbase hits 2
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 52
Port hits 5
Port supply hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
20 x G3M Nell bombing at 6000 feet

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Sub attack near Koepang at 28,77

Japanese Ships
AG AG-107, Shell hits 1

Allied Ships
SS O24

O24 hits a barge with a MG salvo...

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TF 91 troops unloading over beach at Pamakasan, 24,66

Japanese ground losses:
142 casualties reported

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Ground combat at Soerabaja

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 72113 troops, 841 guns, 7 vehicles, Assault Value = 1611

Defending force 42788 troops, 439 guns, 86 vehicles, Assault Value = 741

Allied ground losses:
6 casualties reported

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Ground combat at Homan

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 202741 troops, 2676 guns, 37 vehicles, Assault Value = 4271

Defending force 269436 troops, 918 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 7388

Allied ground losses:
72 casualties reported

looking at the combat replay, all those big Chinese corps have regained their strength completely and are again at an assault value of 475! [X(] We need far more bomber attacks on the supply depots at Homan...

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Ground combat at 32,30

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 104433 troops, 1077 guns, 29 vehicles, Assault Value = 2945

Defending force 42106 troops, 276 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1112

Allied ground losses:
29 casualties reported

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Ground combat at Cagayan

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 59839 troops, 600 guns, 5 vehicles, Assault Value = 1286

Defending force 12406 troops, 76 guns, 7 vehicles, Assault Value = 278

Allied ground losses:
9 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

deliberate attack next turn...

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Ground combat at Manila

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 3088 troops, 108 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1363

Defending force 77196 troops, 438 guns, 236 vehicles, Assault Value = 2053

Allied ground losses:
72 casualties reported

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Ground combat at Sian

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 113245 troops, 391 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 4065

Defending force 191062 troops, 1531 guns, 33 vehicles, Assault Value = 3257

Japanese ground losses:
28 casualties reported

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Ground combat at Soerabaja

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 25419 troops, 281 guns, 64 vehicles, Assault Value = 741

Defending force 94009 troops, 861 guns, 7 vehicles, Assault Value = 1611

Japanese ground losses:
33 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

castor troy · Post by **castor troy** » Tue Jun 12, 2007 4:29 pm

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 05/07/42

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TF 91 troops unloading over beach at Pamakasan, 24,66

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Sub attack near Noumea at 68,113

Japanese Ships
MSW Takasago Maru
MSW Tomozono Maru #3

Allied Ships
SS Tuna

Tuna sits in Noumea port and attacks a MSW there. Hit but dud... at Noumea there are 32 DDs and several other ASW ships... [8|]

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Sub attack at 67,131

Japanese Ships
SS I-27

Allied Ships
TK Chilbar, Torpedo hits 2, on fire

a sub that should attack the Hornet next turn.

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Sub attack near Noumea at 68,113

Japanese Ships
CA Haguro
DD Tokitsukaze
DD Amatsukaze
DD Maikaze

Allied Ships
SS Tuna

The Tuna attacks again. Miss. Immunity against DDs... It´s really getting more than annoying, the immunity of Allied subs is really ridicoulos... Don´t know what all goes wrong in this PBEM...

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Day Air attack on Homan , at 49,30

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 60
Ki-21 Sally x 160

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21 Sally: 2 damaged

Allied ground losses:
37 casualties reported

Airbase hits 24
Airbase supply hits 5
Runway hits 108

Aircraft Attacking:
20 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 11000 feet

3 Sallies are lost to ops... [8|] Range 3 no fatigue, all daitais over 80 exp.

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Day Air attack on Ichang , at 47,33

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft
IL-4c x 23

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-43-Ib Oscar: 5 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
IL-4c: 1 damaged

Runway hits 10

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x IL-4c bombing at 16000 feet

Transferred the Oscars in last turn and rested them due to fatigue. The airfield symbol attracts a raid immediately. 9 out of the 12 Oscars there are destroyed. Losing 3 pilots. Not bad at extreme range, without any recon before from 16.000 ft. One Chinese bomber was lost to ops.

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Day Air attack on Taung Gyi , at 33,32

Allied aircraft
Blenheim IV x 75
Wellington III x 12
Hudson I x 12
B-25C Mitchell x 27
LB-30 Liberator x 20

Allied aircraft losses
Blenheim IV: 3 damaged
Wellington III: 1 damaged
LB-30 Liberator: 1 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
137 casualties reported
Guns lost 4

Airbase hits 7
Airbase supply hits 9
Runway hits 47

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x Blenheim IV bombing at 10000 feet

One Blen is destroyed by flak, not a single op loss. Range 7.

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Day Air attack on Manila , at 43,52

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 121
Ki-27 Nate x 47

No Japanese losses

Allied ground losses:
21 casualties reported

Airbase hits 4
Airbase supply hits 5
Runway hits 56

Aircraft Attacking:
10 x Ki-27 Nate bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on Port Moresby , at 53,91

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 9
Ki-21 Sally x 49
Ki-49 Helen x 58
Ki-46-II Dinah x 1

No Japanese losses

Airbase hits 1
Airbase supply hits 4
Runway hits 66

Aircraft Attacking:
24 x Ki-49 Helen bombing at 6000 feet

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ASW attack near Noumea at 68,113

Japanese Ships
PG Zuiko Maru
PG Yoshida Maru
PG Shotoku Maru
DD Mochizuki
DD Nagatsuki
DD Fumizuki

Allied Ships
SS Tuna

Did I say that it´s getting laughable??

Next turn there will be probably some Allied DDs over my subs... we will se what happens...

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TF 47 troops unloading over beach at Pomala, 32,69

Japanese ground losses:
145 casualties reported

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Ground combat at Soerabaja

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 72097 troops, 839 guns, 7 vehicles, Assault Value = 1611

Defending force 42791 troops, 439 guns, 86 vehicles, Assault Value = 743

Allied ground losses:
21 casualties reported
Guns lost 1
Vehicles lost 1

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Ground combat at Homan

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 202729 troops, 2675 guns, 37 vehicles, Assault Value = 4267

Defending force 270264 troops, 926 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 7433

Allied ground losses:
108 casualties reported

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Ground combat at Pamakasan

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 1477 troops, 8 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 53

Defending force 0 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 0

Japanese max assault: 40 - adjusted assault: 11

Allied max defense: 0 - adjusted defense: 1

Japanese assault odds: 11 to 1 (fort level 2)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Pamakasan base !!!

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Ground combat at 32,30

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 104733 troops, 1079 guns, 29 vehicles, Assault Value = 2968

Defending force 42282 troops, 273 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1115

Allied ground losses:
117 casualties reported
Guns lost 4

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Ground combat at Cagayan

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 74979 troops, 604 guns, 5 vehicles, Assault Value = 1299

Defending force 12411 troops, 74 guns, 7 vehicles, Assault Value = 280

Japanese engineers reduce fortifications to 4

Japanese max assault: 1125 - adjusted assault: 609

Allied max defense: 259 - adjusted defense: 403

Japanese assault odds: 1 to 1 (fort level 4)

Japanese Assault reduces fortifications to 4

Japanese ground losses:
871 casualties reported
Guns lost 20

Allied ground losses:
282 casualties reported
Guns lost 4

will take a lot more time...

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Ground combat at Manila

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 3088 troops, 108 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1361

Defending force 76943 troops, 434 guns, 236 vehicles, Assault Value = 2046

Allied ground losses:
158 casualties reported

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Ground combat at Homan

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 257927 troops, 914 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 7433

Defending force 238913 troops, 2696 guns, 37 vehicles, Assault Value = 4267

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Ground combat at Sian

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 128415 troops, 437 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 4071

Defending force 191177 troops, 1536 guns, 34 vehicles, Assault Value = 3262

Japanese ground losses:
32 casualties reported

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Ground combat at Soerabaja

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 25423 troops, 280 guns, 63 vehicles, Assault Value = 742

Defending force 94013 troops, 859 guns, 7 vehicles, Assault Value = 1611

Japanese ground losses:
46 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

castor troy · Post by **castor troy** » Tue Jun 12, 2007 6:12 pm

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 05/08/42

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Naval bombardment of Andaman Island, at 23,34

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-46-II Dinah: 4 destroyed
E7K2 Alf: 3 destroyed

Allied Ships
CL Newcastle
CL Glasgow
CL Birmingham
CL Mauritius
CL Emerald
CL Enterprise
CA Cornwall
CA Devonshire
CA Dorsetshire
BC Repulse
BB Prince of Wales

Japanese ground losses:
144 casualties reported
Guns lost 5

Airbase hits 14
Airbase supply hits 9
Runway hits 73
Port hits 1

Twice the number of planes were destroyed on the ground.

I really have to wonder if this game against Helpless is just off regarding die rolls or if something was damaged due to copying the mod files into the game! [:D] You may have noted that I´m "not happy" with a couple of things. It may be die rolls with just endlessly bad luck or whatever... Helpless has done 3 bombardments now with his sloooowly British BBs and he wasn´t spotted even once. At Andaman there are 27!!! [X(][:D][X(] search planes with a range 7 or 8 that are doing search 100%. Another 18 Emilies at Rangoon, and 20 Nells that are doing search. So that means this TF was three times at a range of 4 from Andaman but never spotted... Who? What? Where? Are you joking me?

At Norfolk Island ther are perhaps a dozen F4s and they spot 100% of my TFs that are in the New Caledonia area. Note that Norfolk is 11 ranges away, not 4... [:o] There are 11 capitol ships in this TF and for sure a lot of escorts. So this TF is sitting four hexes away from a base with 27 search planes but isn´t spotted... and that happened now the third time. Means such a big TF sitting 9 times four hexes away from 27 search planes (being in range of 40 more search planes for dozens more turns) and I NEVER spot it?? [&:][&:][&:]

It just looks like if I´m facing stealth ships. Must be stealth as my search planes NEVER spot the biggest TFs on the map and my DDs never find subs (must be stealth subs...). Is there a way to manipulate detection levels???

This PBEM is so special there´s nothing like what we are discussing back and forth for years now on the forum. EVERYTHING seems to be upside down...

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Day Air attack on Koepang , at 28,77

Allied aircraft
Hudson I x 45
B-17E Fortress x 20

No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
16 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Airbase hits 2
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 70

Aircraft Attacking:
8 x Hudson I bombing at 6000 feet

no op loss...[:-]

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Day Air attack on 15th Division, at 47,29

Allied aircraft
IL-4c x 9

No Allied losses

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x IL-4c bombing at 16000 feet
6 x IL-4c bombing at 16000 feet
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Day Air attack on 3rd PA Constabulary Regiment, at 40,58

Japanese aircraft
Ki-27 Nate x 128
Ki-46-II Dinah x 1

No Japanese losses

Allied ground losses:
7 casualties reported

Aircraft Attacking:
32 x Ki-27 Nate bombing at 2000 feet

two op losses (range two hexes)

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Day Air attack on 102nd PA Reserve Division, at 42,59

Japanese aircraft
Ki-49 Helen x 15
Ki-46-II Dinah x 2

No Japanese losses

Allied ground losses:
9 casualties reported

Aircraft Attacking:
11 x Ki-49 Helen bombing at 11000 feet
4 x Ki-49 Helen bombing at 11000 feet
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TF 103 troops unloading over beach at Batan Island, 47,47

Japanese ground losses:
58 casualties reported

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Ground combat at Soerabaja

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 72124 troops, 842 guns, 7 vehicles, Assault Value = 1610

Defending force 42771 troops, 437 guns, 86 vehicles, Assault Value = 743

Allied ground losses:
15 casualties reported

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Ground combat at Homan

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 202864 troops, 2679 guns, 38 vehicles, Assault Value = 4271

Defending force 270834 troops, 934 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 7468

Allied ground losses:
93 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

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Ground combat at 32,30

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 105070 troops, 1087 guns, 29 vehicles, Assault Value = 2982

Defending force 42203 troops, 273 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1111

Allied ground losses:
58 casualties reported
Guns lost 2

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Ground combat at Manila

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 3088 troops, 108 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1361

Defending force 76485 troops, 427 guns, 226 vehicles, Assault Value = 2026

Allied ground losses:
63 casualties reported

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Ground combat at Pomala

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 455 troops, 3 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 12

Defending force 0 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 0

Japanese max assault: 9 - adjusted assault: 11

Allied max defense: 0 - adjusted defense: 1

Japanese assault odds: 11 to 1 (fort level 0)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Pomala base !!!

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Ground combat at Homan

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 258577 troops, 921 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 7468

Defending force 239220 troops, 2700 guns, 38 vehicles, Assault Value = 4271

Japanese ground losses:
48 casualties reported
Guns lost 2
Vehicles lost 1

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Ground combat at Sian

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 128618 troops, 438 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 4079

Defending force 191197 troops, 1533 guns, 34 vehicles, Assault Value = 3264

Japanese ground losses:
17 casualties reported

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Ground combat at Soerabaja

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 25442 troops, 280 guns, 64 vehicles, Assault Value = 742

Defending force 94000 troops, 862 guns, 7 vehicles, Assault Value = 1610

Japanese ground losses:
22 casualties reported

CV Hornet wasn´t reported sunk nor was it spotted this turn. My three subs were attacked 5 times this turn and one was hit by a 500 lb bomb. It should make it back to Noumea, the other two are making full speed runs away from Auckland as all bombers there seem to search for subs now.

Can this damn ship really survive 4 torps and two bomb hits? Being 6 days out before disbanding into port? The single torp on Akagi caused more than 30 floatation dam, so assuming each IJN torp would have done 20 floatation damage then Hornet would have had 80 floatation dam... If she really makes it than it was the biggest victory for the Allied so far. 4 CVs heavily damaged and 150 carrier planes destroyed (including IJN pilots) while having only one damaged US CV (the lost planes are irrelevant as well as the pilots as they are replaced without any problem)...

Hard weeks for the Empire and we´re only in May 42...

castor troy · Post by **castor troy** » Tue Jun 12, 2007 8:56 pm

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 05/09/42

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TF 103 troops unloading over beach at Batan Island, 47,47

Japanese ground losses:
108 casualties reported

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TF 103 troops unloading over beach at Batan Island, 47,47

Japanese ground losses:
87 casualties reported

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Day Air attack on Homan , at 49,30

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 48
Ki-21 Sally x 170

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21 Sally: 1 damaged

Allied ground losses:
82 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Airbase hits 13
Airbase supply hits 8
Runway hits 119

Aircraft Attacking:
13 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 11000 feet
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Day Air attack on Taung Gyi , at 33,32

Allied aircraft
A-20B Boston x 9

Allied aircraft losses
A-20B Boston: 2 damaged

Airbase hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x A-20B Boston bombing at 9000 feet
3 x A-20B Boston bombing at 9000 feet
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Day Air attack on Taung Gyi , at 33,32

Allied aircraft
Blenheim IV x 91

No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
27 casualties reported
Guns lost 4

Airbase hits 1
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 11

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x Blenheim IV bombing at 10000 feet
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Day Air attack on Koepang , at 28,77

Allied aircraft
Hudson I x 16
B-17E Fortress x 9

Allied aircraft losses
Hudson I: 1 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
16 casualties reported

Airbase hits 2
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 13

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x Hudson I bombing at 6000 feet
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Day Air attack on Manila , at 43,52

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 125
D3A Val x 17
B5N Kate x 59
G3M Nell x 36
G4M1 Betty x 26
Ki-27 Nate x 48

No Japanese losses

Allied ground losses:
123 casualties reported
Vehicles lost 1

Airbase hits 6
Airbase supply hits 7
Runway hits 154

Aircraft Attacking:
10 x Ki-27 Nate bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on 3rd PA Constabulary Regiment, at 40,58

Japanese aircraft
Ki-27 Nate x 126
Ki-46-II Dinah x 1

No Japanese losses

Allied ground losses:
2 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Aircraft Attacking:
31 x Ki-27 Nate bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on 102nd PA Reserve Division, at 42,59

Japanese aircraft
Ki-49 Helen x 15
Ki-46-II Dinah x 1

No Japanese losses

Allied ground losses:
18 casualties reported

Aircraft Attacking:
15 x Ki-49 Helen bombing at 11000 feet

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Ground combat at Soerabaja

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 72114 troops, 840 guns, 7 vehicles, Assault Value = 1609

Defending force 42812 troops, 436 guns, 86 vehicles, Assault Value = 743

Allied ground losses:
12 casualties reported
Vehicles lost 1

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Ground combat at Homan

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 203017 troops, 2686 guns, 38 vehicles, Assault Value = 4271

Defending force 271065 troops, 944 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 7498

Allied ground losses:
119 casualties reported

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Ground combat at 32,30

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 105432 troops, 1094 guns, 30 vehicles, Assault Value = 2998

Defending force 42229 troops, 275 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1109

Allied ground losses:
27 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Hex West of Mandalay. I have ordered two full divisions to march across the river. Should shock attack over the river in two turns. If I have still not enough troops then then I will surrender...

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Ground combat at Cagayan

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 74022 troops, 588 guns, 4 vehicles, Assault Value = 1248

Defending force 11877 troops, 69 guns, 7 vehicles, Assault Value = 264

Japanese max assault: 1047 - adjusted assault: 724

Allied max defense: 228 - adjusted defense: 721

Japanese assault odds: 1 to 1 (fort level 4)

Japanese Assault reduces fortifications to 3

Japanese ground losses:
361 casualties reported
Guns lost 10
Vehicles lost 1

Allied ground losses:
386 casualties reported
Guns lost 3
Vehicles lost 1

The defender now gets his adjusted av even trippled...[8|]

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Ground combat at Manila

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 3088 troops, 108 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1362

Defending force 76026 troops, 427 guns, 221 vehicles, Assault Value = 2020

Allied ground losses:
24 casualties reported

Allied troops are starving and lose around 400-500 troops a day...

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Ground combat at Batan Island

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 2492 troops, 11 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 31

Defending force 0 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 0

Japanese max assault: 64 - adjusted assault: 126

Allied max defense: 0 - adjusted defense: 1

Japanese assault odds: 126 to 1 (fort level 0)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Batan Island base !!!

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Ground combat at Homan

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 258977 troops, 932 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 7498

Defending force 239453 troops, 2707 guns, 38 vehicles, Assault Value = 4271

Japanese ground losses:
24 casualties reported

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Ground combat at Sian

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 129019 troops, 439 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 4092

Defending force 191293 troops, 1535 guns, 34 vehicles, Assault Value = 3268

Japanese ground losses:
24 casualties reported

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Ground combat at Soerabaja

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 25474 troops, 279 guns, 63 vehicles, Assault Value = 742

Defending force 93970 troops, 860 guns, 7 vehicles, Assault Value = 1609

Japanese ground losses:
16 casualties reported

It looks like as CV Hornet is 100% safe now! [/color] What a disaster...

2 bomb hits and 4 torpedoes seem to be not enough to sink the ship... what about that?

ny59giants · Post by **ny59giants** » Wed Jun 13, 2007 1:04 am

I just got my computer back today after needing to get the mother board replaced )I also had some software problems). I am going to do some trial runs against the AI (haven't been able to play WitP for almost one year[:(]). I was seriously thinking about looking for a PBEM game using Big B's mod, but the more I read your AAR, the more I think I will go with CHS (or another mod using Andrew's extended map - never going back to stock maps).
Any reason to keep my hope alive concerning this mod?? [&:][&:]

castor troy · Post by **castor troy** » Wed Jun 13, 2007 9:22 am

ORIGINAL: ny59giants

I just got my computer back today after needing to get the mother board replaced )I also had some software problems). I am going to do some trial runs against the AI (haven't been able to play WitP for almost one year[:(]). I was seriously thinking about looking for a PBEM game using Big B's mod, but the more I read your AAR, the more I think I will go with CHS (or another mod using Andrew's extended map - never going back to stock maps).
Any reason to keep my hope alive concerning this mod?? [&:][&:]

Actually I think the mod is really working good!! I have used different mods in different version so far but the air combat here is so far the best I have seen as it is not as bloody as stock, you get planes through cap but it´s not like 90% of the attackers get through a heavy cap because it´s not possible to take them down. Of course the 4Es are a bigger problem, but with the coming version 1.4 Brian will have adjusted the replacement rates of the Libs also so there won´t be 150+ a month starting in June 42. And the situation in China will be again looked at, though as you can see, even with the masses of troops AND supply available, the Chinese commander can still make a "bad" decision [:D] and maneuver him in some nasty situations!

So far the things that "seem" to go wrong [:D] are not related to the mod I think. I don´t know why I need a 6 DD ASW TF to be a hundred times over a sub to damage or even sink one. I don´t know either why Japanese aircraft in Burma have problems, for what reason ever. 50 search planes don´t spot a 20 ship TF of Warships going in position, then bombarding, then going out. And this three times already... Why I can´t get more planes on CAP at Rangoon, no idea...

Oh yes, the Hornet didn´t sink with 2 bombs and 4 torpedo hits even though being out of the next base for 5 or 6 days. Why she isn´t attacked by the 108 Betties in range for those 5 or 6 days I don´t know also... [:D] You see, many things that don´t "work" I just don´t know why they don´t work... [8D]

On the other hand I have sunk the Yorktown with "only" three torps...

The situation I face on the ground is a result of my opponent´s tactic to retreat everywhere everything and than stack it in the best position (urban, high forts, wood...). If you face 2500 assault points in urban hex with 60.000 supplies and you try an attack after months of bombing but the defender still gets adjusted assault values of 10.000+ and is completely shredding one of your divisions with every time you attack, then it´s just like what I have now. 3 places where I need two or three times more troops to even achieve something than needed normally. I won´t attack Manila anymore, I have just 1500 assault points sitting there and my airforce is training against the base with 70.000 troops. Soerabaja will hopefully fall when I bring in the 1300 assault points from Mindanao, then I will have 3.000 aussault points (worth 7 divisions!!! [X(]) there. With the two divisions that will reinforce the attack on Mandalay I will then have 4.000 assault points there to even get to the base (if I will ever be able to...).

With version 1.31 I´m using for this PBEM I have to say I´m really pleased with it! And I have to thank Brian for the hard work and the fast info you get if needed! [&o] He is working on 1.4 which will be improved again in several aspects so I expect it to be very good. And BigB mod is also available with AB map, so there´s no need to play on the wrong stock map! The reason I decided to go with the stock map is just because I played three years on the stock map and am just tooooooo used to it! [;)]

castor troy · Post by **castor troy** » Wed Jun 13, 2007 4:33 pm

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 05/10/42

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ASW attack at 69,115

Japanese Ships
DD Yuzuki
DD Minazuki
DD Satsuki
DD Yayoi
DD Kisaragi
DD Mutsuki

Allied Ships
SS Dolphin, hits 8

[&o][&o][&o] two DDs decided to drop 32 DCs today! 7 near misses, 1 hit, leaking fuel badly...

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Day Air attack on Ichang , at 47,33

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 27

Allied aircraft
IL-4c x 23

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-43-Ib Oscar: 1 destroyed, 6 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
IL-4c: 13 damaged

Runway hits 5

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x IL-4c bombing at 16000 feet

The IJA fighters again raise demand for a better armed fighter. Tony and Tojo are still scheduled for 8/42. Just a little luck to get one plane a month early...

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Day Air attack on Taung Gyi , at 33,32

Allied aircraft
A-20B Boston x 9

No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
18 casualties reported

Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 2

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x A-20B Boston bombing at 9000 feet
3 x A-20B Boston bombing at 9000 feet
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Day Air attack on Manila , at 43,52

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 125
D3A Val x 17
B5N Kate x 59
G3M Nell x 36
G4M1 Betty x 26
Ki-27 Nate x 48

No Japanese losses

Allied ground losses:
135 casualties reported
Vehicles lost 1

Airbase hits 8
Airbase supply hits 6
Runway hits 123

Aircraft Attacking:
10 x Ki-27 Nate bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on 11th Tank Regiment, at 48,30

Allied aircraft
SB-2c x 9

Allied aircraft losses
SB-2c: 3 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
6 casualties reported
Vehicles lost 1

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x SB-2c bombing at 6000 feet
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Day Air attack on 111th IJA Base Force, at 48,30

Allied aircraft
SB-2c x 26

No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
75 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x SB-2c bombing at 6000 feet

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Ground combat at Soerabaja

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 72230 troops, 841 guns, 7 vehicles, Assault Value = 1612

Defending force 42972 troops, 438 guns, 85 vehicles, Assault Value = 743

Allied ground losses:
54 casualties reported

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Ground combat at Homan

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 203324 troops, 2689 guns, 38 vehicles, Assault Value = 4281

Defending force 271572 troops, 951 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 7527

Allied ground losses:
356 casualties reported
Guns lost 2

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Ground combat at 32,30

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 105612 troops, 1105 guns, 31 vehicles, Assault Value = 3009

Defending force 42384 troops, 281 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1107

Allied ground losses:
174 casualties reported
Guns lost 2

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Ground combat at Cagayan

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 73501 troops, 582 guns, 2 vehicles, Assault Value = 1219

Defending force 11302 troops, 62 guns, 5 vehicles, Assault Value = 249

Japanese engineers reduce fortifications to 3

Japanese max assault: 967 - adjusted assault: 564

Allied max defense: 220 - adjusted defense: 129

Japanese assault odds: 4 to 1 (fort level 3)

Japanese Assault reduces fortifications to 3

Japanese ground losses:
518 casualties reported
Guns lost 4
Vehicles lost 1

Allied ground losses:
361 casualties reported
Guns lost 4

last turn the defenders had an adjusted assault value of 721. Today it´s 129! [X(] Must be complete different die rolls... Next attack tomorrow, wonder how the av looks then... [:D]

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Ground combat at Manila

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 3088 troops, 108 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1365

Defending force 75713 troops, 423 guns, 215 vehicles, Assault Value = 2017

Allied ground losses:
91 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

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Ground combat at Homan

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 259577 troops, 935 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 7527

Defending force 239818 troops, 2710 guns, 38 vehicles, Assault Value = 4281

Japanese ground losses:
67 casualties reported

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Ground combat at Sian

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 129295 troops, 440 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 4102

Defending force 191511 troops, 1543 guns, 35 vehicles, Assault Value = 3268

Japanese ground losses:
13 casualties reported

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Ground combat at Soerabaja

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 25553 troops, 280 guns, 64 vehicles, Assault Value = 743

Defending force 94088 troops, 861 guns, 7 vehicles, Assault Value = 1612

Japanese ground losses:
66 casualties reported

TK Chilbar, attacked by a sub that was hunting CV Hornet sank today. Hornet not reported sunk. This means the only prize we get is a sunken TK for 3 IJN fleet carriers damaged and 150 pilots lost...

At Truk there are 3 CV and a CVE that will replace the damaged carriers, though we don´t have any trained pilots...

Miller · Post by **Miller** » Wed Jun 13, 2007 6:07 pm

The IJN run out of trained pilots VERY quickly. I have just issued my last one from the pool and its only the middle of January in my game. Thats despite the number of trained pilots being doubled from 10 to 20 a month in this mod!

castor troy · Post by **castor troy** » Wed Jun 13, 2007 6:38 pm

ORIGINAL: Miller

The IJN run out of trained pilots VERY quickly. I have just issued my last one from the pool and its only the middle of January in my game. Thats despite the number of trained pilots being doubled from 10 to 20 a month in this mod!

yes, that´s life! I barely can replace every second or third op loss. The months it will take to repair the carriers will be needed to retrain the pilots. Then I can use them again - once! [:D]

castor troy · Post by **castor troy** » Wed Jun 13, 2007 6:47 pm

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 05/11/42

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Day Air attack on Pagan , at 31,31

Allied aircraft
B-25C Mitchell x 60

No Allied losses

Runway hits 2

Aircraft Attacking:
57 x B-25C Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet
3 x B-25C Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet
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Day Air attack on Taung Gyi , at 33,32

Allied aircraft
A-20B Boston x 12

Allied aircraft losses
A-20B Boston: 4 damaged

Aircraft Attacking:
8 x A-20B Boston bombing at 9000 feet
4 x A-20B Boston bombing at 9000 feet
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Day Air attack on Taung Gyi , at 33,32

Allied aircraft
Blenheim IV x 80
Wellington III x 13
Hudson I x 11
LB-30 Liberator x 21

Allied aircraft losses
Blenheim IV: 1 destroyed, 2 damaged
Wellington III: 1 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
187 casualties reported
Guns lost 17

Airbase hits 6
Airbase supply hits 7
Runway hits 53

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x Blenheim IV bombing at 10000 feet
9 x Blenheim IV bombing at 10000 feet
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Day Air attack on Manila , at 43,52

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 125
D3A Val x 17
B5N Kate x 59
G3M Nell x 35
G4M1 Betty x 27
Ki-27 Nate x 48

No Japanese losses

Allied ground losses:
87 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Airbase hits 9
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 195

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x Ki-27 Nate bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on 6th Division, at 48,30

Allied aircraft
SB-2c x 14

Allied aircraft losses
SB-2c: 5 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
13 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x SB-2c bombing at 6000 feet
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Day Air attack on 6th Division, at 48,30

Allied aircraft
IL-4c x 9

No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
3 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x IL-4c bombing at 16000 feet
3 x IL-4c bombing at 16000 feet
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Day Air attack on 111th IJA Base Force, at 48,30

Allied aircraft
SB-2c x 15

Allied aircraft losses
SB-2c: 1 destroyed, 4 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
13 casualties reported

Aircraft Attacking:
5 x SB-2c bombing at 6000 feet
3 x SB-2c bombing at 6000 feet
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Day Air attack on 3rd PA Constabulary Regiment, at 40,58

Japanese aircraft
Ki-27 Nate x 127
Ki-46-II Dinah x 1

No Japanese losses

Allied ground losses:
2 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Aircraft Attacking:
32 x Ki-27 Nate bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on 102nd PA Reserve Division, at 42,59

Japanese aircraft
Ki-49 Helen x 17
Ki-46-II Dinah x 2

No Japanese losses

Allied ground losses:
31 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Aircraft Attacking:
11 x Ki-49 Helen bombing at 11000 feet
6 x Ki-49 Helen bombing at 11000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF, near Koepang at 28,77

Allied aircraft
Hudson I x 11

Allied aircraft losses
Hudson I: 1 damaged

Japanese Ships
APD APD-38
APD APD-37, Bomb hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x Hudson I bombing at 10000 feet
4 x Hudson I bombing at 10000 feet
4 x Hudson I bombing at 10000 feet

I sent in an ASW TF to (perhaps) attack the three spotted subs that are sitting at Koepang for weeks already. Bad idea it seems as the Allies don´t have the problem of their planes not launching at naval targets like I´m facing it. Immediately Hudsons show up and score a bomb hit. Just as a reminder: 5 turns the Hornet in range of my Betties and not even a single plane attacked out of 108...

the three subs you can see at Koepang of course were NOT attacked...

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Day Air attack on TF, near Koepang at 28,77

Allied aircraft
B-17E Fortress x 3

No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
APD APD-37

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 10000 feet

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Ground combat at Soerabaja

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 72145 troops, 840 guns, 7 vehicles, Assault Value = 1613

Defending force 42932 troops, 439 guns, 85 vehicles, Assault Value = 744

Allied ground losses:
20 casualties reported

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Ground combat at Homan

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 203541 troops, 2692 guns, 38 vehicles, Assault Value = 4284

Defending force 271681 troops, 954 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 7558

Allied ground losses:
120 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

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Ground combat at 32,30

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 150952 troops, 1621 guns, 63 vehicles, Assault Value = 4007

Defending force 42366 troops, 284 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1110

Japanese max assault: 1054 - adjusted assault: 194

Allied max defense: 1130 - adjusted defense: 891

Japanese assault odds: 0 to 1

Japanese ground losses:
1369 casualties reported
Guns lost 95
Vehicles lost 11

Allied ground losses:
462 casualties reported
Guns lost 15

my 2 reinforcement divisions crossed the river West of Mandalay...

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Ground combat at Cagayan

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 72945 troops, 573 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1195

Defending force 10790 troops, 53 guns, 5 vehicles, Assault Value = 233

Japanese engineers reduce fortifications to 2

Japanese max assault: 955 - adjusted assault: 249

Allied max defense: 196 - adjusted defense: 165

Japanese assault odds: 1 to 1 (fort level 2)

Japanese Assault reduces fortifications to 2

Japanese ground losses:
333 casualties reported
Guns lost 16

Allied ground losses:
402 casualties reported
Guns lost 5

4:1 last turn and this turn my assault value is divided by four and noone knows why...

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Ground combat at Manila

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 3088 troops, 108 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1368

Defending force 75381 troops, 413 guns, 214 vehicles, Assault Value = 2013

Allied ground losses:
45 casualties reported

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Ground combat at Homan

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 260106 troops, 940 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 7557

Defending force 239919 troops, 2711 guns, 38 vehicles, Assault Value = 4284

Japanese ground losses:
44 casualties reported

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Ground combat at Sian

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 129655 troops, 440 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 4118

Defending force 191477 troops, 1542 guns, 35 vehicles, Assault Value = 3265

Japanese ground losses:
13 casualties reported

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Ground combat at Soerabaja

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 25593 troops, 281 guns, 64 vehicles, Assault Value = 744

Defending force 94081 troops, 860 guns, 7 vehicles, Assault Value = 1613

Japanese ground losses:
25 casualties reported

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Ground combat at Manila

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 70631 troops, 413 guns, 214 vehicles, Assault Value = 2013

Defending force 77126 troops, 841 guns, 26 vehicles, Assault Value = 1368

Allied max assault: 1795 - adjusted assault: 197

Japanese max defense: 1395 - adjusted defense: 4565

Allied assault odds: 0 to 1

Japanese ground losses:
327 casualties reported
Guns lost 42

Allied ground losses:
5226 casualties reported
Guns lost 110
Vehicles lost 13

Allied forces launch a suicide attack! There´s only one thing sure in WITP! If you don´t have a 10:1 troop advantage then DON´T attack in an urban hex...

castor troy · Post by **castor troy** » Thu Jun 14, 2007 12:44 pm

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 05/12/42

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Day Air attack on Homan , at 49,30

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 60
Ki-21 Sally x 173

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21 Sally: 5 damaged

Allied ground losses:
104 casualties reported
Guns lost 3

Airbase hits 43
Airbase supply hits 7
Runway hits 185

Aircraft Attacking:
20 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet

one Sally was shot down by flak, anoter 5 are lost to ops... I have to laugh about the thread about the Betty being fragile or not... On average I lose 5+ Sallies due to low risk attacks at minimum range against no fighter opposition with high exp. pilots in good weather, from a BIG airfield... And the Betty or Nell is nowhere as sturdy as the Sally... The Sally has only 5 points less durability than a B25C but it´s surely 10 times more effected by op losses. Wonder if there´s a special "boom" die roll for Japanese planes... The Allies have flown two times more sorties so far than the Japanese, against far better defended targets and I´m lucky that they have "nearly" as many op losses as the Japanese. This came due to high transport aircraft losses as Helpless is pushing them hard to evacuate troops all around the map.

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Day Air attack on Ichang , at 47,33

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 35

Allied aircraft
IL-4c x 17

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-43-Ib Oscar: 3 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
IL-4c: 5 destroyed, 7 damaged

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x IL-4c bombing at 16000 feet

This time the fighters had a lot of time to engage the Chinese bombers and after every 4th bomber damaged there´s one shot down... 7 IL-4C are reported shot down A2A today...

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Day Air attack on Taung Gyi , at 33,32

Allied aircraft
A-20B Boston x 8

Allied aircraft losses
A-20B Boston: 3 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
27 casualties reported
Guns lost 2

Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 5

Aircraft Attacking:
8 x A-20B Boston bombing at 9000 feet
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Day Air attack on Manila , at 43,52

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 125
D3A Val x 17
B5N Kate x 59
G3M Nell x 36
G4M1 Betty x 26
Ki-27 Nate x 48

No Japanese losses

Allied ground losses:
160 casualties reported
Guns lost 1
Vehicles lost 1

Airbase hits 5
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 137

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x Ki-27 Nate bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on 6th Division, at 48,30

Allied aircraft
SB-2c x 25

Allied aircraft losses
SB-2c: 3 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
28 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x SB-2c bombing at 6000 feet
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Day Air attack on 3rd PA Constabulary Regiment, at 40,58

Japanese aircraft
Ki-27 Nate x 127
Ki-46-II Dinah x 1

No Japanese losses

Allied ground losses:
11 casualties reported

Aircraft Attacking:
32 x Ki-27 Nate bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on 102nd PA Reserve Division, at 42,59

Japanese aircraft
Ki-49 Helen x 11
Ki-46-II Dinah x 1

No Japanese losses

Allied ground losses:
44 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Aircraft Attacking:
11 x Ki-49 Helen bombing at 11000 feet
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Day Air attack on 101st PA Reserve Division, at 42,59

Japanese aircraft
Ki-49 Helen x 9
Ki-46-II Dinah x 1

No Japanese losses

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x Ki-49 Helen bombing at 11000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF, near Diamond Harbor at 28,23

Japanese aircraft
G3M Nell x 3

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
AK Tantalus

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x G3M Nell launching torpedoes at 200 feet

Wow, the torp bombers from Tavoy actually can fly... About half of the 81 Nells / Betties launch today against a cargo TF spotted at Diamond Harbour! Though not surprisingly a bad die roll prevented the bombers from finding the target... [8|] Then another 3 Nells find the TF but score... 0... Have reduced the range today as I bet Diamond Harbour will have Cap in the next turn...

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Ground combat at Soerabaja

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 72217 troops, 842 guns, 7 vehicles, Assault Value = 1611

Defending force 42951 troops, 437 guns, 85 vehicles, Assault Value = 745

Allied ground losses:
42 casualties reported

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Ground combat at Homan

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 203798 troops, 2700 guns, 38 vehicles, Assault Value = 4286

Defending force 271900 troops, 952 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 7595

Allied ground losses:
178 casualties reported

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Ground combat at 32,30

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 105909 troops, 1112 guns, 32 vehicles, Assault Value = 3841

Defending force 41775 troops, 272 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1091

Allied ground losses:
79 casualties reported

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Ground combat at Manila

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 2982 troops, 103 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1354

Defending force 67452 troops, 264 guns, 196 vehicles, Assault Value = 1379

Allied ground losses:
108 casualties reported

Just look at the Allied av! [&o] Their attack last turn has completely shredded the troops there. 700 assault points lost. They are no threat anymore and another IJA division will be shipped out to join the attack on Soerabaja.

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Ground combat at Homan

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 260619 troops, 940 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 7595

Defending force 240092 troops, 2721 guns, 38 vehicles, Assault Value = 4286

Japanese ground losses:
27 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

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Ground combat at Sian

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 129989 troops, 440 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 4132

Defending force 191589 troops, 1543 guns, 35 vehicles, Assault Value = 3268

Japanese ground losses:
47 casualties reported

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Ground combat at Soerabaja

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 25623 troops, 280 guns, 64 vehicles, Assault Value = 744

Defending force 94217 troops, 862 guns, 7 vehicles, Assault Value = 1611

Japanese ground losses:
40 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

castor troy · Post by **castor troy** » Thu Jun 14, 2007 5:15 pm

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 05/13/42

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TF 60 troops unloading over beach at Bali, 24,68

Japanese ground losses:
1125 casualties reported

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TF 60 troops unloading over beach at Bali, 24,68

Japanese ground losses:
130 casualties reported

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Day Air attack on Rangoon , at 29,34

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 67
A6M3 Zero x 17

Allied aircraft
Blenheim IV x 54
Hudson I x 12
LB-30 Liberator x 20

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 5 destroyed, 40 damaged
A6M3 Zero: 9 damaged
Ki-21 Sally: 7 destroyed
Ki-46-II Dinah: 3 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Blenheim IV: 24 destroyed, 6 damaged
Hudson I: 5 destroyed, 2 damaged
LB-30 Liberator: 4 destroyed, 12 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
202 casualties reported
Guns lost 9

Airbase hits 3
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 16

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x Blenheim IV bombing at 18000 feet
9 x LB-30 Liberator bombing at 18000 feet

hmmm... We have a house rule of bombers aren´t allowed to fly offensive missions (except naval attack) the turn you move them in. So I moved in 180 Sallies last turn and had them stood down this turn, planned an attack next turn. So the aircraft symbol at Rangoon turned from red into dark red last turn which immediately attracted a big bomber armada out of India. WHO STILL THINKS THOSE AIRCRAFT SYMBOLS ARE NOT AN ADVANTAGE FOR THE PLAYER WHO CAN SEE THEM BEFORE GIVING ORDERS (MEANS THE ALLIED PLAYER) MUST REALLY BE COMPLETELY NUTS....

With 90% Cap I get 84 Zeroes out of 135 in the air and I must be happy with that, as it´s more than I had expected. With every third attack on a 2E bomber a bomber is destroyed while it takes 5 or more attacks to take a 4E down. The Libs claimed 4 Zeroes shot down A2A, the Hudsons and Blens 1 each! All in all I lose 29 planes this turn with a dozen pilots lost. The Allied lost nearly 50 an the whole map. Good thing is that around 30 British pilots are lost too and it´s better they get lost now in an obsolete Blenheim instead of being highly experienced and ready to upgrade to a Lib in a couple of months. Overall this attack doesn´t look so bad for me, though I have to say I can already imagine how this will look like in 3 months when the Libs are available. Then only 25% of the bombers lost today would be lost and I would lose 100+ planes on the ground. While we implemented the house rule about the bombers on proposal of Helpless who wanted to give me an advantage (as he can see when I move my planes but I can´t), this seems a not so good idea for me later on as my opponent has now even more chances to destroy my bombers on the ground as they sit at the airfield instead of having the chance to fly a mission and the airfield being empty when the enemy bombers arrive...

I wonder why the British didn´t attack with Wellingtons as they are available and are bombing other places too. For me the Wellington III is the best 2E bomber the Allied get. It´s nearly as deadly as a Liberator.

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Day Air attack on Manila , at 43,52

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 125
D3A Val x 17
B5N Kate x 59
G3M Nell x 36
G4M1 Betty x 27
Ki-27 Nate x 48

No Japanese losses

Allied ground losses:
84 casualties reported
Guns lost 1
Vehicles lost 1

Airbase hits 5
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 190

Aircraft Attacking:
10 x Ki-27 Nate bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on 68th Division, at 32,31

Allied aircraft
Wellington III x 25
A-20B Boston x 10

No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
68 casualties reported
Guns lost 3

Aircraft Attacking:
10 x A-20B Boston bombing at 9000 feet
12 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
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Day Air attack on 68th Division, at 32,31

Allied aircraft
Wellington III x 3
B-25C Mitchell x 36

No Allied losses

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
36 x B-25C Mitchell bombing at 18000 feet
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Day Air attack on 114th IJA Base Force, at 48,30

Allied aircraft
SB-2c x 22

Allied aircraft losses
SB-2c: 1 destroyed, 3 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
27 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x SB-2c bombing at 6000 feet
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Day Air attack on 3rd PA Constabulary Regiment, at 40,58

Japanese aircraft
Ki-27 Nate x 128

No Japanese losses

Allied ground losses:
10 casualties reported

Aircraft Attacking:
32 x Ki-27 Nate bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on 102nd PA Reserve Division, at 42,59

Japanese aircraft
Ki-49 Helen x 6

No Japanese losses

Allied ground losses:
17 casualties reported

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x Ki-49 Helen bombing at 11000 feet
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Day Air attack on 101st PA Reserve Division, at 42,59

Japanese aircraft
Ki-49 Helen x 11

No Japanese losses

Aircraft Attacking:
11 x Ki-49 Helen bombing at 11000 feet
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Day Air attack on Port Moresby , at 53,91

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 9
Ki-21 Sally x 50
Ki-49 Helen x 58
Ki-46-II Dinah x 1

No Japanese losses

Airbase hits 2
Airbase supply hits 3
Runway hits 71

Aircraft Attacking:
21 x Ki-49 Helen bombing at 6000 feet

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Ground combat at Soerabaja

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 72188 troops, 840 guns, 7 vehicles, Assault Value = 1612

Defending force 42911 troops, 438 guns, 84 vehicles, Assault Value = 743

Allied ground losses:
37 casualties reported

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Ground combat at Homan

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 203963 troops, 2702 guns, 39 vehicles, Assault Value = 4293

Defending force 272211 troops, 958 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 7610

Allied ground losses:
120 casualties reported

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Ground combat at 32,30

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 106369 troops, 1119 guns, 32 vehicles, Assault Value = 3857

Defending force 41820 troops, 280 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1096

Allied ground losses:
34 casualties reported
Guns lost 3

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Ground combat at Cagayan

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 72520 troops, 555 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1173

Defending force 10018 troops, 44 guns, 6 vehicles, Assault Value = 218

Japanese engineers reduce fortifications to 1

Japanese max assault: 963 - adjusted assault: 718

Allied max defense: 184 - adjusted defense: 293

Japanese assault odds: 2 to 1 (fort level 1)

Japanese Assault reduces fortifications to 1

Japanese ground losses:
235 casualties reported
Guns lost 5

Allied ground losses:
136 casualties reported
Guns lost 2

Hopefully the next attack will make the Allied forces at Cagayan surrender...

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Ground combat at Manila

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 2998 troops, 103 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 889

Defending force 66865 troops, 264 guns, 193 vehicles, Assault Value = 1376

Allied ground losses:
68 casualties reported

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Ground combat at Homan

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 260999 troops, 946 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 7610

Defending force 240350 troops, 2722 guns, 39 vehicles, Assault Value = 4293

Japanese ground losses:
56 casualties reported

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Ground combat at Sian

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 130363 troops, 440 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 4146

Defending force 191740 troops, 1541 guns, 35 vehicles, Assault Value = 3271

Japanese ground losses:
8 casualties reported

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Ground combat at Soerabaja

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 25581 troops, 280 guns, 63 vehicles, Assault Value = 742

Defending force 94184 troops, 860 guns, 7 vehicles, Assault Value = 1612

Japanese ground losses:
24 casualties reported

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Ground combat at Manila

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 62535 troops, 264 guns, 193 vehicles, Assault Value = 1376

Defending force 52868 troops, 514 guns, 21 vehicles, Assault Value = 889

Allied max assault: 529 - adjusted assault: 58

Japanese max defense: 898 - adjusted defense: 6501

Allied assault odds: 0 to 1

Japanese ground losses:
559 casualties reported
Guns lost 28
Vehicles lost 3

Allied ground losses:
2193 casualties reported
Guns lost 38
Vehicles lost 5

The Allied forces at Manila decided to make another suicide attack. Looks like Japanese Banzai charges! [:D] Like I said before, you can be 100% sure that a force that isn´t 5-10 times as big as the defender has no chance to drive you out of an urban hex. I could even take one of the two remaining divisions out and the Allied could still not achive anything. I think those attacks are ordered because Helpless doesn´t like me using Manila as a big training ground for my airforce. Clark field is a level 7 af and is built up to 8 in two weeks. Then I will have 400 planes (including the KB aircrafts) there for training runs. So my opponent is trying to commit suicide with his troops until none are left as we have agreed on not bombing empty bases. While Manila has some ressources and 100+ HI I prefer having it as a target for my pilot training. I don´t have enough oil anyway to feed my existing HI so the HI of Manila wouldn´t help me. And probably it would all be destroyed, just like all the places where British troops surrendered were 100% destroyed!

castor troy · Post by **castor troy** » Thu Jun 14, 2007 7:44 pm

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 05/14/42

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TF 60 troops unloading over beach at Bali, 24,68

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Day Air attack on Homan , at 49,30

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 60
Ki-21 Sally x 170

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21 Sally: 4 damaged

Allied ground losses:
118 casualties reported
Guns lost 3

Airbase hits 25
Airbase supply hits 6
Runway hits 100

Aircraft Attacking:
11 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 11000 feet
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Day Air attack on Manila , at 43,52

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 125
D3A Val x 17
B5N Kate x 59
G3M Nell x 35
G4M1 Betty x 27
Ki-27 Nate x 71

No Japanese losses

Allied ground losses:
123 casualties reported
Vehicles lost 1

Airbase hits 4
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 90
Port hits 3
Port fuel hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
36 x Ki-27 Nate bombing at 2000 feet

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Day Air attack on 6th Division, at 48,30

Allied aircraft
SB-2c x 23

Allied aircraft losses
SB-2c: 2 destroyed, 6 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
58 casualties reported
Guns lost 3

Aircraft Attacking:
10 x SB-2c bombing at 6000 feet
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Day Air attack on 3rd PA Constabulary Regiment, at 40,58

Japanese aircraft
Ki-27 Nate x 95

No Japanese losses

Allied ground losses:
14 casualties reported

Aircraft Attacking:
32 x Ki-27 Nate bombing at 2000 feet

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Ground combat at Bali

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 10300 troops, 44 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 332

Defending force 1823 troops, 16 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 48

Japanese max assault: 255 - adjusted assault: 90

Allied max defense: 44 - adjusted defense: 11

Japanese assault odds: 8 to 1 (fort level 0)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Bali base !!!

Japanese ground losses:
224 casualties reported
Guns lost 6

Allied ground losses:
2609 casualties reported
Guns lost 16

cleared a small island south of Java...

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Ground combat at Soerabaja

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 72293 troops, 842 guns, 7 vehicles, Assault Value = 1613

Defending force 42844 troops, 437 guns, 84 vehicles, Assault Value = 744

Allied ground losses:
158 casualties reported
Guns lost 1
Vehicles lost 1

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Ground combat at Homan

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 204058 troops, 2707 guns, 39 vehicles, Assault Value = 4293

Defending force 272457 troops, 962 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 7632

Allied ground losses:
333 casualties reported

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Ground combat at 49,36

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 23686 troops, 367 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 482

Defending force 942 troops, 3 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 31

Japanese max assault: 521 - adjusted assault: 513

Allied max defense: 30 - adjusted defense: 23

Japanese assault odds: 22 to 1

Japanese ground losses:
31 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Allied ground losses:
58 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

A Chinese guerilla unit...

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Ground combat at 32,30

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 148228 troops, 1550 guns, 49 vehicles, Assault Value = 3866

Defending force 41874 troops, 275 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1100

Allied ground losses:
275 casualties reported
Guns lost 5

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Ground combat at Cagayan

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 72324 troops, 551 guns, 1 vehicles, Assault Value = 1163

Defending force 9815 troops, 39 guns, 5 vehicles, Assault Value = 212

Japanese engineers reduce fortifications to 0

Japanese max assault: 969 - adjusted assault: 707

Allied max defense: 189 - adjusted defense: 281

Japanese assault odds: 2 to 1 (fort level 0)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Cagayan base !!! [&o]

Japanese ground losses:
965 casualties reported
Guns lost 14

Allied ground losses:
15368 casualties reported
Guns lost 94
Vehicles lost 2

Cagayan finally fell today! We scored nearly 300 points in Allied ground losses today!

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Ground combat at Sian

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 130715 troops, 442 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 4153

Defending force 191792 troops, 1542 guns, 35 vehicles, Assault Value = 3267

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Ground combat at Soerabaja

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 25586 troops, 279 guns, 62 vehicles, Assault Value = 743

Defending force 94349 troops, 862 guns, 7 vehicles, Assault Value = 1613

Japanese ground losses:
29 casualties reported

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Ground combat at Manila

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 51834 troops, 196 guns, 185 vehicles, Assault Value = 1125

Defending force 47821 troops, 443 guns, 16 vehicles, Assault Value = 878

Allied max assault: 319 - adjusted assault: 30

Japanese max defense: 881 - adjusted defense: 6785

Allied assault odds: 0 to 1

Japanese ground losses:
423 casualties reported
Guns lost 19
Vehicles lost 1

Allied ground losses:
2386 casualties reported
Guns lost 30
Vehicles lost 3

We get help in scoring ground losses points! The more often he attacks, the more troops can I send out to other fronts... Soon a single brigade will be enough to keep the troops at Manila honest...

castor troy · Post by **castor troy** » Fri Jun 15, 2007 10:06 am

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 05/15/42

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Day Air attack on Homan , at 49,30

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 72
Ki-21 Sally x 172

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21 Sally: 3 damaged

Allied ground losses:
79 casualties reported
Guns lost 3

Airbase hits 15
Airbase supply hits 7
Runway hits 139

Aircraft Attacking:
11 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 11000 feet

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Day Air attack on Mandalay , at 33,30

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 17
Ki-21 Sally x 154
Ki-46-II Dinah x 8

Allied aircraft
Wirraway x 3

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21 Sally: 2 destroyed, 15 damaged

Allied ground losses:
128 casualties reported
Guns lost 1
Vehicles lost 2

Airbase hits 18
Airbase supply hits 12
Runway hits 108

Aircraft Attacking:
19 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 11000 feet

there were 30+ Wirraways on Cap over Mandalay the last couple of turns so I decided to visit the base this turn! Helpless again anticipates my strike and I find the airfield empty and only 3 Wirraways on Cap that immediately attack the bombers and manage to damage a couple of them. I also ordered a sweep from another base (Tavoy)... had hoped to see it BEFORE the bombers. I don´t have luck with sending in sweeps! This could be very severe against a heavily capped base like Imphal. Recon shows around 110 enemy fighters in the air every turn. With the bombers that launch from Imphal and the max stacking of 200 planes at the level 4 base there, this means that Helpless seems absolutely having no problem of bringing up 100% of the fighters set to cap! Something I´m dreaming about...[8|]

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Day Air attack on Taung Gyi , at 33,32

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 24

Allied aircraft
Wirraway x 32

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
Wirraway: 10 destroyed, 12 damaged

Aircraft Attacking:
7 x Wirraway bombing at 2000 feet

still got a couple of the obsolete Wirraways as I moved 36 Oscars to Taung Gyi! Cap 90% means I get 67% of the planes into the air... I wonder why Wirraways are still used at the front as there´s surely no need to at this stage of the war.

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Day Air attack on Manila , at 43,52

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 125
D3A Val x 17
B5N Kate x 59
G3M Nell x 54
G4M1 Betty x 9
Ki-27 Nate x 70

No Japanese losses

Allied ground losses:
140 casualties reported

Airbase hits 13
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 128
Port hits 4

Aircraft Attacking:
32 x Ki-27 Nate bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on 3rd PA Constabulary Regiment, at 40,58

Japanese aircraft
Ki-27 Nate x 64

No Japanese losses

Allied ground losses:
13 casualties reported

Aircraft Attacking:
32 x Ki-27 Nate bombing at 2000 feet
32 x Ki-27 Nate bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on Mandalay , at 33,30

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 51

Allied aircraft
Wirraway x 3

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
Wirraway: 3 destroyed

yippiehhhhh! Here comes my sweep...

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TF 60 troops unloading over beach at Lombok, 24,69

Japanese ground losses:
739 casualties reported

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Ground combat at 32,30

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 178373 troops, 1557 guns, 1331 vehicles, Assault Value = 3889

Defending force 41564 troops, 274 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1089

Japanese max assault: 3753 - adjusted assault: 4660

Allied max defense: 1095 - adjusted defense: 983

Japanese assault odds: 4 to 1

Japanese ground losses:
3462 casualties reported
Guns lost 88
Vehicles lost 37

Allied ground losses:
2198 casualties reported
Guns lost 59

This is the hex West of Mandalay! My assault value even get´s adjusted ABOVE the MAX assault value??? [X(] I achieve a 4:1 but not a single unit retreats! Really amazing how high those fort levels must have been (with only a couple of engineers present at this hex), when I achieved a couple of 3:1 and 2:1 odds already and now a 4:1.[8|] As Helpless told me after my 3:1 attack that it seemed the forts didn´t go down at all we started a little discussion on the forum which brought up that attacks outside of bases "SHOULD" bring down forts just like in bases though it isn´t displayed. I asked Helpless this turn if forts went down and I don´t know if I get this intel as he told me he´s not sure if he should tell me... [:D]

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Ground combat at Soerabaja

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 72267 troops, 841 guns, 7 vehicles, Assault Value = 1617

Defending force 42640 troops, 435 guns, 84 vehicles, Assault Value = 744

Allied ground losses:
180 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

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Ground combat at Homan

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 204267 troops, 2706 guns, 40 vehicles, Assault Value = 4298

Defending force 272867 troops, 961 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 7662

Allied ground losses:
308 casualties reported

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Ground combat at 49,36

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 23612 troops, 367 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 480

Defending force 850 troops, 2 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 23

Japanese max assault: 516 - adjusted assault: 179

Allied max defense: 22 - adjusted defense: 1

Japanese assault odds: 179 to 1

Allied ground losses:
1195 casualties reported
Guns lost 2

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Ground combat at Sian

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 130870 troops, 443 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 4159

Defending force 191781 troops, 1542 guns, 35 vehicles, Assault Value = 3265

Japanese ground losses:
67 casualties reported

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Ground combat at 32,30

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 24790 troops, 187 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 919

Defending force 204678 troops, 1619 guns, 1277 vehicles, Assault Value = 3638

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Ground combat at Soerabaja

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 25560 troops, 277 guns, 62 vehicles, Assault Value = 744

Defending force 94381 troops, 860 guns, 7 vehicles, Assault Value = 1617

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Ground combat at Manila

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 51604 troops, 131 guns, 177 vehicles, Assault Value = 853

Defending force 45647 troops, 370 guns, 14 vehicles, Assault Value = 873

Allied max assault: 239 - adjusted assault: 12

Japanese max defense: 883 - adjusted defense: 7037

Allied assault odds: 0 to 1

Japanese ground losses:
219 casualties reported
Guns lost 7

Allied ground losses:
1656 casualties reported
Guns lost 19
Vehicles lost 1

Allied suicide attacks are continuing...

castor troy · Post by **castor troy** » Fri Jun 15, 2007 10:07 am

Helpless just told me that the forts West of Mandalay DID NOT go down, despite achieving a 4:1!!

THIS F***ING GAME IS SO BUGGED..........

castor troy · Post by **castor troy** » Fri Jun 15, 2007 1:46 pm

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 05/16/42

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TF 60 troops unloading over beach at Lombok, 24,69

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Sub attack near Koepang at 28,77

Allied Ships
SS O24

O24 is attacking another ghost...

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Day Air attack on Koepang , at 28,77

Allied aircraft
Hudson I x 43
B-17E Fortress x 33

Allied aircraft losses
Hudson I: 1 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
43 casualties reported

Airbase hits 4
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 40

Aircraft Attacking:
8 x Hudson I bombing at 6000 feet

the 4Es are returning from New Zealand to Darwin again...

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Day Air attack on 3rd PA Constabulary Regiment, at 40,58

Japanese aircraft
Ki-27 Nate x 64

No Japanese losses

Aircraft Attacking:
32 x Ki-27 Nate bombing at 2000 feet
32 x Ki-27 Nate bombing at 2000 feet

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Ground combat at Lombok

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 1894 troops, 5 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 109

Defending force 936 troops, 3 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 31

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Ground combat at Soerabaja

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 72192 troops, 839 guns, 7 vehicles, Assault Value = 1615

Defending force 42337 troops, 431 guns, 84 vehicles, Assault Value = 745

Allied ground losses:
122 casualties reported

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Ground combat at Homan

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 204200 troops, 2703 guns, 40 vehicles, Assault Value = 4290

Defending force 273399 troops, 964 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 7702

Allied ground losses:
193 casualties reported

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Ground combat at 32,30

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 5215 troops, 178 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 3672

Defending force 38556 troops, 199 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 934

Allied ground losses:
181 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

West of Mandalay... as I´m totally penalized by this bug that I can´t reduce forts outside of base hexes and those Allied troops probably have level 4 or 5 I will never be able to drive them out without suffering the complete wrecking of my troops doing that. I have now ordered all troops to follow a base force out to Pagan again (if the follow unit order works - one out of 10 times...

). Then they will shock attack over the river AGAIN and this time into Mandalay! This adventure of discovering this bug has cost me probably more than 25% of the combat effectiveness of my troops! And that is BEFORE I take Mandalay. You can imagine how those 8 divisions and brigades will look like after I have taken it... [:o]

F***ing BUGS!!!! If this bug wouldn´t occur I would have already taken Mandalay weeks ago... As it is now I have only wrecked division after division. And I have to say that the worst thing is that I was assured that taking down forts outside of base hexes WORKS and so I kept up attacking and even reinforced my troops. It´s really like I would do playtesting here... [:@][:@][:@] This three years after release. While I really apreciate the work the devs still put into the game while other games from other companies get no support at all, in other games you at least know what bugs you face within a couple of weeks. In WITP you have to face new bugs one after another again and again...

It´s frustrating that you raise an issue and most times it´s either called "minor" or you are even told everything is working just fine... though it isn´t...

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Ground combat at Sian

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 131068 troops, 442 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 4424

Defending force 191785 troops, 1542 guns, 35 vehicles, Assault Value = 3270

Japanese ground losses:
89 casualties reported

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Ground combat at 32,30

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 24807 troops, 190 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 920

Defending force 205104 troops, 1623 guns, 1276 vehicles, Assault Value = 3672

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Ground combat at Soerabaja

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 25566 troops, 279 guns, 63 vehicles, Assault Value = 743

Defending force 94346 troops, 858 guns, 7 vehicles, Assault Value = 1615

Japanese ground losses:
4 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

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Ground combat at Manila

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 354 troops, 1 guns, 13 vehicles, Assault Value = 634

Defending force 48188 troops, 378 guns, 17 vehicles, Assault Value = 943

Allied ground losses:
2 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

in the combat replay ALL Allied inf units now have an assault value of 0-2 displayed! [:D] With the six divisions I had there I couldn´t take it after months of aerial bombing, now Manila has killed itself...

Helpless (Allied) vs Castor Troy (Jpn) / BigB 1.3

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