BOB 1941 - 1 week - TEST AAR

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AFAIK if you use the Mark designation than the k is lowercase. So Spitfire Mk. I or Mk I and not Spitfire MK I. But a Mark designation may not be needed if you run in problems (name field is not long enough).

If we are in the nitpicking mode: German designation has always a space between manufactuerer designation, model number and version/subtype. Bf 109 G-6 and not Bf 109G-6. With the subtype missing it should be ok to leave the last space to get Bf 109G. (document tend to vary in this case but most often it seems to be as I said).
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@Hard Sarge
I don't think you have to change that much.
As we talked in another thread about it a simple "Hitler does not go the Napoleonic Way" would be enough.
He didn't get them it 40 so he tries to get them in 41.

I asked about other LW units because there were some sent to Italy and some to the Balkan(No Yugo action cause they don't have to be forced into the axis in 41, so maybe only a small assistance to finish Greece).
That means if those units are not in France then they are out and assist the Italians somewhere and if that is the case then I'm sure there would have been no Italian air units for BoB41.
But if those German units are in France then the situation doesn't seem to be that bad at least not now so the Duce could have left them there.
A small assistance just like the attack on France in 1940 to get a foot in the door and a piece of the pie.
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Hard Sarge,
 
Keep the BOB41 Regia Aeronautica set up as is.
 
As you have pointed out, it is a "what if" scenario.  Those who dispute the logic of having Italian planes present need to answer how, using their own arguments, they can explain the real life deployment of the Regia Aeronautica to Russia.  If Hitler is attacking the West rather than the East in 41, then at the very least, the Italian resources allocated to Russia would have been made available to attack the UK for political reasons at the very least.
 
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I agree with Alfred - keep it as it is now
( but then I have seen during testing that you can massacre them most of the time [8|] )
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Russia is a good point.

If no major troop movement to the east occurs then Germany has enough troops to help out in Greece and in Africa that will even leave more Italian Troops available for assistance in BoB41.
So bring in even more Italian air units.

On the other hand the situation in Greece and Africa started worsen already in 1940. With only minor or even no assistance from Germany Italy has more need for those units in their own battles.
So leave Italian air units out.


But if you use the same amount of units like in 1940 then you could at least upgrade them.
After the punishment they got in 1940 they would be for sure move back to Italy for R&R and in spring new units with better planes or at least the old units with upgraded planes would again be moved to the channel coast.
How about that?
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ORIGINAL: Denniss

Probably just a Typo: Martlet MK I
As you use no Mark designation on other types it may look better if you only use Martlet I (or at least Martlet Mk I).

yea, I agree, I never did like the MK or Mk name, even more so since it is a Mk I (once a 2nd model comes out, I can see them adding the Mark numbers to them) so, changed to Martlet I

Another possible typo: 804 Squadron F. A. A.
I don't know how official this site is but it uses FAA
http://www.fleetairarmarchive.net/Squad ... drons.html

If we are in the nitpicking mode: German designation has always a space between manufactuerer designation, model number and version/subtype. Bf 109 G-6 and not Bf 109G-6. With the subtype missing it should be ok to leave the last space to get Bf 109G. (document tend to vary in this case but most often it seems to be as I said).

on this one, I think I got to stick with what we got, almost everything I got show it the way I have it, and matches what most of the people saying it should be (will say, my latest book on the TA 152 does it the way you are saying, so am not sure if it is the auther or how it was written)

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Hi all,

Just to update.

Over ther past 2 days the Luftwaffe have scaled down their raids and only a couple of medium sized raids have flwon against Exeter Airfield, Tangmere Airfield (twice), Saro Aircraft production on Isle of Wight, Manston Airfield and night bombing of Gratham and Leeds.

The RAF has not risen to these feints in general.

Losses have been 7 RAF planes to 14 Luftwaffe (4 of those last nigth - 2 to NF's, 1 to 3.7" heavy AA over Leeds and 1 Ju88 crashed upon landing in France................)
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