Performance whingeing

[jcjordan]

Well since you're going to add a F4U how about going a step further & do the F2G now there's some power out front there & where's the P80??? [:D]

[pad152]

Aircraft list

Where are the following?
B17E The first version of the B17 used by the 8th airforce in 1942!
P47C Jan 1943 through mid to 1943 8th air force
P38F mid 1942 used by some groups until 1943
P38G ?
P40N ?

Why Meteor I & III and no P80? (no allied jets saw combat but, the P80's in Italy were just weeks away from going operational before end of the war in europe.

[SMK-at-work]

Meteor I's saw combat against V-1's in 1944, and Meteor III's flew ground attack and "armed reconaissance" (ie wander around shooting up anythign you find) missions from Belgium and Germany in 1945 getting credit for some german a/c destroyed on the ground - ref "Meteor in Action, Sqn/Signal pub, various web pages eg http://www.wingweb.co.uk/aircraft/Gloster_Meteor.html

[Hard Sarge]

ORIGINAL: pad152

Aircraft list

Where are the following?
B17E The first version of the B17 used by the 8th airforce in 1942!
the game starts in Aug of 43 ?, time line is pretty much done with this plane
P47C Jan 1943 through mid to 1943 8th air force
well again, the first D's were coming off the production lines early in 43, by fall of 43, most of the C's on the books were upgraded or in the process of being upgraded to D's standard (now some C's were still on the books and flying in mid 44, but they were no longer C's other then in Block number)
P38F mid 1942 used by some groups until 1943
again, way out of the timeline, the G is already a outdated model by the time the game starts
P38G ?
the G and the H are too close to being the same plane, and with the G already on the way out, the H is really the only model needed
P40N ?
well, to an extent, the N is in as the IV, and while some 5000 were built, it was more a landlease and PTO model then a ETO model

Why Meteor I & III and no P80? (no allied jets saw combat but, the P80's in Italy were just weeks away from going operational before end of the war in europe.

the biggest hassle with the P-80 right now, is stats, most stats for the plane, are based on what it could do in Korea, not what it was doing in 45, I find better info on this plane, I be more then happy to add it in



for the 109G6/AS and 109G14/AS it is more in how they used them, then in not likeing or wanting them, I do not find much were they were used Gruppen sized units

I am a little on the fence on these, I could "add" a new engine type, and frame, which would then mean more split factories to build these, would leave off the Paks, as they should be seen as High Alt fighters, but with weaker firepower then could be used with the plain models (but, it is going to be a bugger trying to keep all the engines and frames lined up as it is)

[Peter Fisla]

Bf-109 G-5 in the game is it actually using the DB605 AS engine ? Because if it's not then it should be a bit heavier and not necessarily faster than your standard G-6 since G-5 is basically G-6 with pressurized cockpit.

Unfortunately I believe there were only 50 G-5/AS so I don't see the point of implementing them...but I would like to see G-6/AS (with or without MW50 system) added into the engine with DB06 AS engine; total about 686 produced - 226 new produced and rest conversion form G-6. The G-14/AS (with or without MW50 system) - about 1000 were produced. The G-10 btw uses DB 605 AS, DB 605 ASM, DB 605 D, DB 605 DB and DB 605 DC last two also possibly with MW50 system. What DB 605 engines do you currently support in the game for the Gustav fighters - Hard Sarge ?

Granted the G-6/AS and G-14/AS were mixed with regular G-6 and G-14 in Luftwaffe Gruppen but I would still very much welcome both of these planes in the game....if it isn't too much work for you. I would simply just go with G-6/AS once they would be available and simply stop producing regular G-6. The G-6/AS arrives first then G-14/AS and then very closely G-10. You wouldn't really need to add new frames...granted the G-14/AS oil cooler is not the same as G-10 oil cooler but from game perspective you could use G-10 frames, just add new engines. If you need some performance data let me know I have some original Daimler Benz German PDF with some basic information about each BD 605 engine type.

Anyways my opinion only