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RE: Honda has gone AWOL

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ORIGINAL: Raverdave

ORIGINAL: Honda

Ok, I've done some homework...

CV 6-2
CVL 1-0
CVE 0-0
BB 8-0
CA 19-2
CL 26-1 (Kashima)
CS 0-2 (Chiyoda and Chitose
DD 95-16
APD 6-2
AP 56-26
AK 234-16
AO 3-0
TK 40-5
SS 48-6
AUX 9-2

While at first blush the above figures look bad, when you drill down it is not. Buy far the largest losses are in AKs and APs. The AKs are nothing to worry about as you get more than you know what to do with later in the game (I now have more AKs sitting in ports that I have at sea simply because there is not enough things for them to do).
The APs losses early in the war really hurt as these were the primary troop transports and I would say that i am still behind in this even in mid '43.
The carriers hurt, but when you look at what they took with them then it is somewhat even. And of course those CV will re spawn :)

Nope what has really bitten me on the arse is the 95 DDs that were lost. DDs are the true work horses of the game, there are there to escort, ASW, fast transport, screens for TFs.
The Ak's are still a blow aren't they? Because that's still alot to lose and that's less ak's that he'll have to destroy later...

Also, with that amount of loss its still a pretty big blow regardless, because you're gonna have to wait till probably mid '44 before you really have good numbers of them again to greatly assist in striking a lasting blow against him. You're gonna need the good supply ships and you'll need them in good quantity and like I said I think at the very least it still makes it easier for him, cause later that's 234 less that he has to destroy.

Even in mid '44 i dont think youll have "more than enough to know what to do with" because really you only have THAT many if you don't lose a whopping 234 up to that point. I dont think it's argueable that that isn't a huge loss and I think it'll definitely and permanetly at least slow down your counter strokes for the remainder of the game.

But as far as every other ship loss goes I think you're right....Losing the BB's doesn't really matter...40 Tk's, meh...that CA loss seems kinda harsh though...The BB losses merely mean you advance slightly slower later in the big picture and your men on the ground take some higher losses, i could see dismissal of losses like that, but I don't know, it does also mean he can do better in surface combat if that ever happens...I really couldn't see myself saying "meh" about losing the ships you have, regardless of what can be replaced, it's still a huge blow in every way and its still ships that you could have used but that are now at the bottom, especially the 234 AK's
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RE: Honda has gone AWOL

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@ Tek,
 
I really have more Aks now that I really need.  At last count I had two hundred just sitting in ports on the east coast doing stuff all.  I can't use them. Every base that I have is full of supply and the current AK TFs are doing a good job.
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RE: Honda has gone AWOL

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I am far from happy with the loss ratio in my raid on Wake Is.  The F4Fs didn't do as well as i would have though.  [&:]  They were well rested and had high moral.  Bugger looks like I might have to wait till my Hellcats get here before I kick off the offensive.[:(]
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RE: Honda has gone AWOL

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@Raver, all i have to say...

haha holy crap
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Raver has gone AWOL

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Just to report we're taking a 3 week break due to Raver's trip. He needs it. Come on. Let's hear it for Raver. Give him a round of applause.

Thank you!
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RE: Raver has gone AWOL

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I'm Back !
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RE: Raver has gone AWOL

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Just a short update...
We entered July 1943 a few turns ago. Still all quiet. Only some small activity on Raver's part in India, but nothing worth mentioning. Pacific is still calm and deserving of its name, but that is not likely to last for very long. Still the questions where and when will Raver hit persist. All options on the Pacific are viable, from North to South and including Oz. The good news is the Brits are cut off from Pacific and an offensive on Indian ocean seems unlikely. A ground campaign is a more realistic option at the moment and Raver is still gathering strenght there for his first big push. Ahmadabad is his forward base and routes into the subcontinent are closed down by japanese garissons in Bombay and Delhi, while to the northeast Lahore is also held by IJ troops threatening the flanks of any pincer that might try to open a route into India. But, allow me to quote everybody's favourite general as an advice to Raver:
"Flanks!? How many times do I have to tell you forget about the flanks!!!"

P.S.
One USN sub sunk in recent days...
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RE: Raver has gone AWOL

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During Raver's wanderings of America, he comes across some cannon and wonders if it will help turn the tide against Honda.

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So this is what a disabled gun looks like. Some support squads should have this fixed in no time at all!

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This will do! Honda will be totally surprised when these secret weapons go into action. If I can get these to Oz, I will retake my homeland in no time at all!

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RE: Raver has gone AWOL

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Hehehehe
The sad thing is ww2 jap field guns don't look much more advanced then these Raver's decisive weapons...
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RE: Raver has gone AWOL

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Just a quick update to report that all is still quiet. We're in mid July now, and of things to note, Raver's subs have been returning from patrol during the last few days, and yesterday one trasport carrying resources was sunk by a homebound sub. I'm still expecting Raver's first move. Alhough a few days ago he landed his forces on previously abandoned Baker Island, I don't consider that offensive action and have decided not to react.
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RE: Raver has gone AWOL

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I've been meaning to ask you Honda.....whats with the Avatar and what does it mean?



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RE: Raver has gone AWOL

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Hi Raver, here is the answer (from Pauk's sake break topic)
Well, thaw was the official day of mourning in Croatia in honor of 12 (I think) firefighters that died fightng a wildfire on a beautiful small remote archipelago called Kornati. The tragedy had a strong impact on Croatian public opinion. Zond was the one to make this small In Memoriam avatar and Pauk and I decided to adopt it and show solidarty, even if just among ourselves.
Only one firefighter from the group is still alive, and his condition is still critical...
I was just starting to type the answer when Honda ambushed me.

Yes, national grieve day was scheduled for the 3rd September but the accident occured on 30th of August.

12 firefighters died, and half of them were still in their "teenage" years (17,18 yrs old) including father & son from the same family. (part of the volunteer firefighting unit).

Another sad part is that most of them were from 2 small towns in the region so it had an enormous impact on the region. Of course, all country was in shock since it was the largest tragedy since
the War of independence (1991-1995).

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Ah that is indeed sad, and I can understand how  tragic it can be.  I am in the Country Fire Authority and we have had our fair share of deaths on the fire front in years gone past.  
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RE: Raver has gone AWOL

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@ Mark VII    

I choose to ignore your posts !   [;)]
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RE: Raver has gone AWOL

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Hey Raver, how's the Coast Guard stuff going?
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Trip OS to US

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Rather cool actually. I just got back from a three week tour of the US where I got to play with some very nice boats.

Here a few pics.

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RE: Trip OS to US

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To bring us up to date again. We're in the 2nd half of August '43. Still all quiet but the storm clouds are about to burst with hail. Three weeks ago it seemed as though it had stared. Raver sent a large raid from Ahmadabad on Delhi (I'm holding the Bombay-Delhi-Lahore line in India).

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Some 250 planes appeared over Delhi to be met by a strong CAP of 80 fighters. Warhawks got slapped badly, but served their purpose and ensured the bombers would get through with only moderate casulties:

Day Air attack on Delhi , at 27,10

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zeke x 42
Ki-61 KAIc Tony x 39

Allied aircraft
Boomerang II x 5
Beaufighter VIF x 12
Liberator VI x 68
P-40N Warhawk x 67
F-5A Lightning x 5
B-25C Mitchell x 63
B-24D Liberator x 41

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zeke: 4 destroyed, 24 damaged
Ki-61 KAIc Tony: 15 destroyed, 9 damaged
Ki-46-III Dinah: 2 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Boomerang II: 5 destroyed
Beaufighter VIF: 6 destroyed
Liberator VI: 18 destroyed, 32 damaged
P-40N Warhawk: 49 destroyed
F-5A Lightning: 1 destroyed, 2 damaged
B-25C Mitchell: 11 destroyed, 8 damaged
B-24D Liberator: 9 destroyed, 11 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
298 casualties reported
Guns lost 12

Airbase hits 14
Airbase supply hits 4
Runway hits 162


The airfileds remained operational but it was obvious they couldn't take much more of that punishment.
Now, althoug most of my plane losses were on ground, they were still losses. A huge numer of fighters was damaged from tangling with the heavies. If Delhi was to survive another day it would require reinforcements...
The second day's strike was, quite expectadly, much smaller. Still, even reinforced Delhi was in trouble since my interceptors did worse then yesterday...

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Ths attack made it through also. The damages on the airfileds increased, but after that Raver's AF simply didn't have it in them to continue the offensive.
This round goes to, WO Fukodome gets his 18th kill in his Tony[:D]

Up to Raver where we meet next...
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RE: Trip OS to US

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Honda launched an air raid against Malir today the came totally out of the blue. [X(]  He caught the defenses napping and wrought a huge amout of damage to the airfields that were packed with aircraft.  And while an attack is always expected it is the size that caught me off balance.

Lucky for me I have a huge pool of airfield support so the place is up and running again, even with the huge black oily clouds from the still burning fires.

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 08/26/43
Day Air attack on Malir , at 22,4
 
Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zeke x 54
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 35
Ki-21 Sally x 74
Ki-49 Helen x 100
Ki-46-III Dinah x 4
 
Allied aircraft
Boomerang II x 6
Hurricane II x 18
Beaufighter VIC x 8
 
Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zeke: 3 destroyed
Ki-43-IIa Oscar: 8 destroyed, 1 damaged
Ki-21 Sally: 3 damaged
Ki-49 Helen: 2 destroyed, 16 damaged
 
Allied aircraft losses
Boomerang II: 7 destroyed
Hurricane II: 23 destroyed
Beaufighter VIC: 10 destroyed
B-24D Liberator: 6 destroyed
Liberator VI: 16 destroyed
Beaufort V-IX: 6 destroyed
Vengeance I: 13 destroyed
Lysander I: 3 destroyed
Spitfire Vb: 3 destroyed
Beaufighter VIF: 2 destroyed
 
 
Allied ground losses:
89 casualties reported
Guns lost 2
 
Airbase hits 35
Airbase supply hits 17
Runway hits 158
 
Aircraft Attacking:
12 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
14 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
13 x Ki-49 Helen bombing at 6000 feet
19 x Ki-49 Helen bombing at 6000 feet
20 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
19 x Ki-49 Helen bombing at 6000 feet
23 x Ki-49 Helen bombing at 6000 feet
 6 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
 5 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
 8 x Ki-49 Helen bombing at 6000 feet
 3 x Ki-49 Helen bombing at 6000 feet
 3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
 5 x Ki-49 Helen bombing at 6000 feet
 3 x Ki-49 Helen bombing at 6000 feet
 3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
 3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
 3 x Ki-49 Helen bombing at 6000 feet
 3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
 2 x Ki-49 Helen bombing at 6000 feet
 2 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
 3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
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