One conclusion about air attacks into Russia

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RE: One conclusion about air attacks into Russia

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Cid,
 
It is NOT at variance with reports and tests as, if you read my AAR you can see both reports of and in-game resolution of attacks on Soviet coastal bases. Hence this constitutes tests and reports.
 
I can target land units in those bases.
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RE: One conclusion about air attacks into Russia

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That IS at variance with tests - by which I means tests I am running around the clock. I can not target anything unless the base is coded somehthing other than Soviet - and not land units even if it is coded Soviet - in Soviet bases such as Suchan and Vladivostok. As soon as I coded them French - I was able to run Recon and to bomb port and airfield - but not ground units.

This is also what was reported in the threads. If you read carefully you will see they had only been able to attack three ports coded as French in EA. They apparently didn't try to target land units.

I wonder if you may not be seeing the French setting? It is IMPOSSIBLE to see in the game - and ONLY shows in the editor. Your flag comes from your command - not from you national setting. NOTHING a PLAYER sees is able to indicate nationality.

That is why I failed to fix a problem for a long time - I could not see the place - in Russia - was coded IJA. This review caused me to be looking at nation in the editor - and I found and fixed the problem - which impacted all scenarios - but mattered only in solitare games (AI would then think the Russians were occupying Japanese territory and bomb the site).
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RE: One conclusion about air attacks into Russia

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We are getting significant attention from Matrix. Replies in hours. Technical data. And now requests for files to test.
I think we could not ask for more - you cannot fix or workaround something until it is understood - and technical analysis must come first
no matter what might be done. Once it is understood - the cost to fix it can be understood.
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RE: One conclusion about air attacks into Russia

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Cid,
I have concluded the same results as you ... but I thought you can see the nationality inside the main base screen .Glad everyone is starting to say the same things as myself and other forum members
This is also what was reported in the threads. If you read carefully you will see they had only been able to attack three ports coded as French in EA. They apparently didn't try to target land units.
Actually all the ports are coded French in EA ... not just 3

Nemo you can hit any coast base because they are french (EA mod)... this is not good news about the Lcu's ... clutching at straws now but does "attached to: Far Eastern Command" have any effect ? I've never tested that. I doubt it does, but the last option ...

Also aren't Russian vessels designated French anyway ??

To Summarise everyone:
Ports that are assigned a nationality other than Soviet can be attacked.
Ground forces assigned Soviet within Soviet territory cannot be attacked.
Shipping (assigned other that soviet can be attacked)
Air - according to El Cid can be attacked if at a base assigned other than soviet.
Bases (within soviet territory) cannot be attacked if Soviet, but outside they can - Is this correct?

Is that the summary of datum?

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RE: One conclusion about air attacks into Russia

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Damian and El Cid,
I'm glad to see the way you guys are trading info and test data on this issue and that Matrix is getting involved as well. I was skeptical when Damian first reported this, but he was persistant and convincing in presenting evidence to support his point and El Cid has quickly followed up on getting to the bottom of things and to find a fix. We are grateful for you guys going after this issue.

By the way, WITP tracker works fine in RHS, but my old brain is still trying to figure out how to absorb all the details it presents.
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RE: One conclusion about air attacks into Russia

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Cid,
I have concluded the same results as you ... but I thought you can see the nationality inside the main base screen .Glad everyone is starting to say the same things as myself and other forum members
This is also what was reported in the threads. If you read carefully you will see they had only been able to attack three ports coded as French in EA. They apparently didn't try to target land units.
Actually all the ports are coded French in EA ... not just 3

Nemo you can hit any coast base because they are french (EA mod)... this is not good news about the Lcu's ... clutching at straws now but does "attached to: Far Eastern Command" have any effect ? I've never tested that. I doubt it does, but the last option ...

Also aren't Russian vessels designated French anyway ??

To Summarise everyone:
Ports that are assigned a nationality other than Soviet can be attacked.
Ground forces assigned Soviet within Soviet territory cannot be attacked.
Shipping (assigned other that soviet can be attacked)
Air - according to El Cid can be attacked if at a base assigned other than soviet.
Bases (within soviet territory) cannot be attacked if Soviet, but outside they can - Is this correct?

Is that the summary of datum?

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Datum is the singular of plural, for any Latin linguists out there. So the question probably should be "is that the summery of the data?"

Pretty much -

But I am not seeing Soviet ships attacked UNLESS in one of those (French) ports - not in a TF -
AND worse - I am NEVER seeing Japanese fighters fly escort into Russia.

I have EBO converted over - and I now can attack ground units in Russia, air bases, ports, cities. And SOVIET fighters work fine - cutting up those invaders.

Command has no effect on these matters.
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