World in Flames is the computer version of Australian Design Group classic board game. World In Flames is a highly detailed game covering the both Europe and Pacific Theaters of Operations during World War II. If you want grand strategy this game is for you.
I did not consider shipping the Hanoi resource to Burma via the Burma road and am not sure if that is legal. CWiF does not allow that shipment method.
The African resource does not need a convoy in the West Med, it can land in Spain and rail from there. The West Med convoys ship only Iraq Oil and Hanoi resource normally.
Lars
can´t see a reason why the res ..can´t be send though china .... anybody ?????
******************************** 13.3.2 US entry options 9. Resources to China
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Choosing this entry option opens the Burma road. It then counts as a railway for moving resources and build points (only) into China (not out).
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It is. 24 are placed, 3 are held in reserve on the East Coast.
Japan - won't need supply to Truk until 1941. You can keep a few for reserve in case of war with Russia, or for adventures in the Middle East, or good luck in China, or a conservative Chinese set-up that gives you some of the resources free.
You can always return them to base if you see that your reserve is lowering.
I don't like not supplying Truk because it allows for an easy conquest of the critical island if for whatever reason an enemy decides to do that, and also because it's a good habit to always have Truk supplied from 2 Sea Areas at the minimum. During our last game my Japanese enemy did not supply Truk, and when the time came for supply to be necessary, he supplied only from 1 Sea Area, underweighting the danger, and it got cut easily, giving me the island on a plate in 1943. Supply to Truk is like a red alarm light in my head. Always 2 Sea Areas, all the time. [:D]
-There should be a double chain from australia to US west coast (running 2 separate paths for most the way).
-Running a double chain around africa leaves the CW very short on reserves
-Japan does not need the two single CPs early on. They are better kept as reserves
-The US should start 1 CP where it can RTB to the Filliphines.
-Italy should have out way fewer CP, and none past Suez
-France should not have CP past Suez. Use CW CP for this. France and CW should deploy an integrated setup, with france providing 1-2 losstaker cp in all exposed seazones. I like to put 1 each of french and CW CP in med, both for resource transport, but also for supply (in case of just one power at war with Italy. Iraqi oil is better stored in Syria, and needs no transport
-CW should have a single CP in central atlantic, and only 3 in Caribbean and 8 east of Canada
-CW might want to start out with a chain to Belgian Congo (or CPs in port that are ready to establish this chain)
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-France should not have CP past Suez. Use CW CP for this. France and CW should deploy an integrated setup, with france providing 1-2 losstaker cp in all exposed seazones. I like to put 1 each of french and CW CP in med, both for resource transport, but also for supply (in case of just one power at war with Italy. Iraqi oil is better stored in Syria, and needs no transport
Excellent point - I was going to post this too. They can't lend to each other but they are fabulously prescient in knowing they'll be at war pretty quick. I'd put no more than one of each in the East and West Med sea zones to start. Having both there gives an option for restoring supply to Africa if Italy DoWs only one of the two.
Let the CW look after the Indo-China to Arabian Sea route and let the French handle most of the Australia to Mexico route. That way when Vichy is declared, you should have a 90% chance of keeping all but two of the French convoys since they'll return to base in New Caledonia.
I like the option with french CP for the australia->US link, didn't think of that before.
Especially useful for the WIFFE map, where port capacity in countries likely to go Free is very limited.
In MWiF, however, there is more port capacity. But it still might be a good idea...
Yes, that is a good idea for the French CP. I have been slowly reaching that conclusion myself. I think though, that French Polynesia is likely to go Vichy? I forget. I've been playing LoC Vichy for a long time, and with those rules you move the CP to the nearest French port, Vichy or Free, with the installing Axis power deciding ties.
I still wouldn't run more than one point in each Med zone. If Italy wants to declare on only one power, I'd be happy about that. Then the CW get a basically free DoW and surprise impulse.
For Truk, if my leaving it out of supply in 1939 leads the Allies to attack Japan, again I'd be pretty happy about that. If the Allies were going to do this, I'd be glad I didn't have two more CPs wasted out on that limb.
For the USA, I like to set up a chain backwards from the Phillipines. (They can set up 12 CP as if they had moved out from Pearl Harbor). The left-over CP don't reach all the way back to the States, but will when the new CP arrives in Mar/Apr and a built one in May/Jun. By then the Phillipine resource might be handy, especially if entry option 16, Resources to Western Allies has been played. The USA needs no reserve CP in 39-40. I don't expect the Burma Road to ever remain open after playing option #9, Resources to China, but your mileage may vary. By the time other options come in to play, such as #24 re-open Burma Road, or a high one (33?) Refute Naval War Zones, the US can have built many more CP if it desires.
Italy is in the sample set-ups, but how about for the Italians, Germans, and Russians, there is just a short text describing their basic options....
Russia - Arctic, Baltic, Black or Caspian Seas. Good reasons for all of them, but only three CP to set up.
Germany - Set up at start, or select a Combined Impulse after Copenhagen is taken. Ties in with other German plans in S/O 39.
Italy - I had forgot about the Rumanian oil, thanks. With that you could even lay down an AMPH on the first turn if you bring in the Sardinia resource. But I am quite used to seeing a German no-Bessarabia gambit, and once Rumania goes active, Germany gets all 3 oil; also I usually see Italy wanting to save the oil.
And all of these set-ups should consider whether Limited Overseas Supply is even being played. I think it was left off the recommended list for brand new players?
I like the option with french CP for the australia->US link, didn't think of that before.
Especially useful for the WIFFE map, where port capacity in countries likely to go Free is very limited.
I was doing that in my early days of WiF playing too (using French CP to take the early CP losses). But I'm not doing it anymore, I mean on a large scale, only in the Med at most.
The reason is twofold :
- First, before Vichy comes there is not a lot of CP sinking.
- Second, the CW needs to replace them with CW CP as soon as possible because when Vichy will come they will all rebase. It is more thinking needed for the CW player that don't need that to have thinking to do in WiF FE. If he forget, he can have a CP line cut (it nearly happened to me).
In MWiF, however, there is more port capacity. But it still might be a good idea...
Brian makes a good point about the optional rule Overseas Supply.
For a novice's early games we are recommending the default Novice Optional Rule set, which doesn't include that rule.
However, I am coming slowly around to the opinion, that we are likely to see two large groups of players who could use help:
1 - complete novices to the WIF game, and
2 - players who have played the board game (perhaps many years ago) who will want to start with Overseas Supply turned ON.
Of course that leads to a doubling of the number of SET files, which is not real attractive.[:(]
-There should be a double chain from australia to US west coast (running 2 separate paths for most the way).
-Running a double chain around africa leaves the CW very short on reserves
-Japan does not need the two single CPs early on. They are better kept as reserves
-The US should start 1 CP where it can RTB to the Filliphines.
-Italy should have out way fewer CP, and none past Suez
-France should not have CP past Suez. Use CW CP for this. France and CW should deploy an integrated setup, with france providing 1-2 losstaker cp in all exposed seazones. I like to put 1 each of french and CW CP in med, both for resource transport, but also for supply (in case of just one power at war with Italy. Iraqi oil is better stored in Syria, and needs no transport
-CW should have a single CP in central atlantic, and only 3 in Caribbean and 8 east of Canada
-CW might want to start out with a chain to Belgian Congo (or CPs in port that are ready to establish this chain)
remember that we need to make it simple for new players ... mixing the lines will make it complex
-There should be a double chain from australia to US west coast (running 2 separate paths for most the way).
-Running a double chain around africa leaves the CW very short on reserves
-Japan does not need the two single CPs early on. They are better kept as reserves
-The US should start 1 CP where it can RTB to the Filliphines.
-Italy should have out way fewer CP, and none past Suez
-France should not have CP past Suez. Use CW CP for this. France and CW should deploy an integrated setup, with france providing 1-2 losstaker cp in all exposed seazones. I like to put 1 each of french and CW CP in med, both for resource transport, but also for supply (in case of just one power at war with Italy. Iraqi oil is better stored in Syria, and needs no transport
-CW should have a single CP in central atlantic, and only 3 in Caribbean and 8 east of Canada
-CW might want to start out with a chain to Belgian Congo (or CPs in port that are ready to establish this chain)
remember that we need to make it simple for new players ... mixing the lines will make it complex
Yes, I agree. The goal is something decent, that's not embarrassing. These need not achieve the perfection of the Parthenon.
-There should be a double chain from australia to US west coast (running 2 separate paths for most the way).
-Running a double chain around africa leaves the CW very short on reserves
-Japan does not need the two single CPs early on. They are better kept as reserves
-The US should start 1 CP where it can RTB to the Filliphines.
-Italy should have out way fewer CP, and none past Suez
-France should not have CP past Suez. Use CW CP for this. France and CW should deploy an integrated setup, with france providing 1-2 losstaker cp in all exposed seazones. I like to put 1 each of french and CW CP in med, both for resource transport, but also for supply (in case of just one power at war with Italy. Iraqi oil is better stored in Syria, and needs no transport
-CW should have a single CP in central atlantic, and only 3 in Caribbean and 8 east of Canada
-CW might want to start out with a chain to Belgian Congo (or CPs in port that are ready to establish this chain)
and why use a bp to save the oil in Syria ???????????
France needs the oil for reorg. Syria is just as good a location as France to reorg from. Transporting the oil to france uses extra CPs in a risky place.
saving an oil in Syria wouldn't cost a BP. France receives 9 resources in S/O 39 and has a multiple of 0.5, creating 4.5 BPs which rounds up to 5. 10 Resources also creates 5 BP, so you might as well save the oil. (standard disclaimer: if playing with that option).
Here is some sample text for Russia:
Russia starts with 3 Convoy Points. There would be little point in setting these up in their Pacific ports; in the event of war with Japan the massive Imperial Japanese Navy would eliminate these quickly. That leaves the Arctic Ocean, the Baltic Sea, the Black Sea, and the Caspian Sea. There are good reasons to set up in all of these zones:
Arctic Ocean: Once war with Germany begins, you will naturally be hoping for some aid from the Western Allies. Putting one or two of your Convoy Points here can help you in these negotiations and perhaps make the difference in an aid delivery if the Axis begin to combat these shipments.
Baltic Sea: If playing with the Limited Overseas Supply optional, a CP here is good to have in the event of an actual war with Finland early in the game, and can definitely be useful for threatening the long Baltic coastline when your counterattack against the Germans gets going. However if you have your TRS in the Baltic, that can be used for supply; also in most cases Finland will accede to a request for their borderlands with no shooting war. You also might lose Leningrad during Barbarossa, which would probably eliminate any remaining naval assets you have in the Baltic. Should you need overseas supply in the Baltic later in the war, you could easily build a new CP or two.
Black Sea: Convoy points here can aid the Motherland in two ways: a) by helping supply potential Soviet landings on the Black Sea Coast and/or keeping troops cut-off along the coast in supply, and b) by potentially delivering a resource point to an otherwise surrounded factory in Odessa or extracting one from the Crimea for delivery to a factory elsewhere in Russia, should certain rail lines be cut by the Nazi invaders. A CP or even two in the Black Sea will generally be useful at some point in most games.
Caspian Sea: Why would I want to put CPs in this isolated sea zone so deep inside Mother Russia? For two reasons - one can be useful to help supply units along the coast during a campaign in Persia, and also there could come a day when Hitler's hordes reach the northern shores of the Caspian - and they aren't there for the caviar. Russia can at some times be pushed this far back, cutting off the oil supplies in the Caucasus from the rest of the Russian industrial base. Some CPs in the Caspian can ship this oil across to the Asian side. As you prepare for Barbarossa you will need to build lots of units that will have higher priorities than lowly Convoy Points, especially as the German offensives hit their peak. Should this happen you will be glad you already have some CPs there and you might even end up building some more for this purpose, but think ahead - Convoy Points take four turns to complete.
I don't know how much if any of a set-up tutorial there will be, but I hope that is a better summary of the Russian choices than any potential map would be. It could definitely be edited down some.
For a 1939 CW convoy set-up (sans Food in Flames) I would chain 2 res from Aus to Canada through a 5 sea area pipeline. Unless the Axis are playing with auxiliary cruisers the Australia-Canada route is safe until the Japanese attack.
I like the option with french CP for the australia->US link, didn't think of that before.
Especially useful for the WIFFE map, where port capacity in countries likely to go Free is very limited.
I was doing that in my early days of WiF playing too (using French CP to take the early CP losses). But I'm not doing it anymore, I mean on a large scale, only in the Med at most.
The reason is twofold :
- First, before Vichy comes there is not a lot of CP sinking.
- Second, the CW needs to replace them with CW CP as soon as possible because when Vichy will come they will all rebase. It is more thinking needed for the CW player that don't need that to have thinking to do in WiF FE. If he forget, he can have a CP line cut (it nearly happened to me).
In MWiF, however, there is more port capacity. But it still might be a good idea...
More port capacity ?
The Free French CP are most handy as a strategic reserve for the atlantic as FF almost always can take a naval action to plug holes in the convoy pipeline where it may be inconvenient for a pressured CW.
I like the option with french CP for the australia->US link, didn't think of that before.
Especially useful for the WIFFE map, where port capacity in countries likely to go Free is very limited.
I was doing that in my early days of WiF playing too (using French CP to take the early CP losses). But I'm not doing it anymore, I mean on a large scale, only in the Med at most.
The reason is twofold :
- First, before Vichy comes there is not a lot of CP sinking.
- Second, the CW needs to replace them with CW CP as soon as possible because when Vichy will come they will all rebase. It is more thinking needed for the CW player that don't need that to have thinking to do in WiF FE. If he forget, he can have a CP line cut (it nearly happened to me).
In MWiF, however, there is more port capacity. But it still might be a good idea...
More port capacity ?
The Free French CP are most handy as a strategic reserve for the atlantic as FF almost always can take a naval action to plug holes in the convoy pipeline where it may be inconvenient for a pressured CW.
So in short don't fritter away French CP.
Egg-zactly !! Of course the first time I tried RTB'ing all those French convoys to New Caledonia on the turn of Vichyfication, I rolled a 1 for it. The good news was there was no way for Vichy to make any good use of them.
