I would use the whole KB for Pearl Harbour and allocate a lot of Betties and Nells to do the Manila attack. With 150 bombers going after Manila, there won´t be a single ship that isn´t hit, at least this is my experience. You hit those ships either with 800kg bombs or 18 inch torps, so every sub hit with such a weapon should be dead anyway. If you grab a level 4 airfield the first day, you can use it the next day and place Sallies there to finish the job in Manila´s port. Use the CVL (Ryuho?) that starts near the Philipines to have also the 18 Kates in the port attack.
I can´t see why you should need parts of the KB in the SRA. I have heard about that really often, but I could never figure out what I should do with carriers in the SRA. There are a dozen bases that can accomodate Zeroes and Betties/Nells so I had never a need for KB in four years of playing. I´m no fan of splitting KB anyway.
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RE: Major Japanese Forces at Start
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I would use the whole KB for Pearl Harbour and allocate a lot of Betties and Nells to do the Manila attack. With 150 bombers going after Manila, there won´t be a single ship that isn´t hit, at least this is my experience. You hit those ships either with 800kg bombs or 18 inch torps, so every sub hit with such a weapon should be dead anyway. If you grab a level 4 airfield the first day, you can use it the next day and place Sallies there to finish the job in Manila´s port. Use the CVL (Ryuho?) that starts near the Philipines to have also the 18 Kates in the port attack.
I can´t see why you should need parts of the KB in the SRA. I have heard about that really often, but I could never figure out what I should do with carriers in the SRA. There are a dozen bases that can accomodate Zeroes and Betties/Nells so I had never a need for KB in four years of playing. I´m no fan of splitting KB anyway.
The house rule said that only carrier based air could do port attacks.
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RE: Major Japanese Forces at Start
Guys,
So who is going to control what or has that yet to be negotiated ? (I just posted the same on Michael's AAR) ... just interested how you break it up ...
So who is going to control what or has that yet to be negotiated ? (I just posted the same on Michael's AAR) ... just interested how you break it up ...
Force Allocation
I am having issues getting onto my msn account to grab email! I wanted to copy Brad and Is last division of labor email. We spent a lot of yesterday going back-and-forth over who is running what. Brad is concerned over his schedule knocking him out every now-and-then and I am concerned about the sheer amount of thought needed for the opening few weeks of the war. I THINK this is what we have more-or-less settled on for the opening of the war:
Brad:
1. The Japanese Economy
2. Most of the Submarines (I am getting the 9 Ro-Boats that start in the central Pacific and 3-4 Glen-SS)
3. The bulk of the DEI Assault (Philippines, DEI, and Malaya)
4. Naval units present there on Dec 8th. This will include initially the CVs used for the Manila strike.
John:
1. Central Pacific
2. SE Pacific
3. North Pacific
4. The Drive into Burma and India
5. The KB-Pearl Harbor Strike Force plus the augmented Naval/Air Units at Kwajalein and Truk
Joint:
1. China----John refrain "I HATE CHINA!"
Brad:
1. The Japanese Economy
2. Most of the Submarines (I am getting the 9 Ro-Boats that start in the central Pacific and 3-4 Glen-SS)
3. The bulk of the DEI Assault (Philippines, DEI, and Malaya)
4. Naval units present there on Dec 8th. This will include initially the CVs used for the Manila strike.
John:
1. Central Pacific
2. SE Pacific
3. North Pacific
4. The Drive into Burma and India
5. The KB-Pearl Harbor Strike Force plus the augmented Naval/Air Units at Kwajalein and Truk
Joint:
1. China----John refrain "I HATE CHINA!"
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Thoughts
Since a number of people responded since I last looked at the AAR, let me jump in:
Castor--As per our House Rules we have the chance to hit any Port with CV-Based Air. I've run a PH attack with the four big CVs (CarDiv 1 and 5) with good results. Hitting Manila is better then Singapore because of that HUGE concentration of Shipping. Even if we can damage 50-75% of those American SS we will be ahead in the long-run. The Manila attack usually yields 4-6 SS sunk with another 12-15 damaged. If we can follow-up the CV attack on the 7th with a devastating Nell/Betty attack on the 8th, we stand a real chance of sinking a BUNCH of ships in Port.
Beyond that think of having those CVs placed to intercept anything leaving the Philippines. If we don't bag less then 30 ships (beyond what we get in Harbor) fleeing the area I would consider it highly embarrassing!
Brad answered the other questions pretty well. I concur with him that landing at Singora is just about the same as anywhere along the eastern shoreline. The only bonus factor will be no landing and disruption issues from a contested landing. The goal will be to knock out the Allied troops ASAP and 4 Inf Div should certainly do that!
Castor--As per our House Rules we have the chance to hit any Port with CV-Based Air. I've run a PH attack with the four big CVs (CarDiv 1 and 5) with good results. Hitting Manila is better then Singapore because of that HUGE concentration of Shipping. Even if we can damage 50-75% of those American SS we will be ahead in the long-run. The Manila attack usually yields 4-6 SS sunk with another 12-15 damaged. If we can follow-up the CV attack on the 7th with a devastating Nell/Betty attack on the 8th, we stand a real chance of sinking a BUNCH of ships in Port.
Beyond that think of having those CVs placed to intercept anything leaving the Philippines. If we don't bag less then 30 ships (beyond what we get in Harbor) fleeing the area I would consider it highly embarrassing!
Brad answered the other questions pretty well. I concur with him that landing at Singora is just about the same as anywhere along the eastern shoreline. The only bonus factor will be no landing and disruption issues from a contested landing. The goal will be to knock out the Allied troops ASAP and 4 Inf Div should certainly do that!
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RE: Thoughts
I'm curious as to why you're using RO class subs in the Central Pacific. They're short range will cause them to spend most of their time moving to and from station. I'd recommend using the ROs in the Solomons or IO, or possibly the Aleutians after you capture/build a level 3 port.
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RE: Thoughts
Subscribed. 
Good luck John and Brad! I'll be wishing Michael and Paul good luck as well, but I am an Allied Fanboy. [;)][:D]
Good luck John and Brad! I'll be wishing Michael and Paul good luck as well, but I am an Allied Fanboy. [;)][:D]
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RE: Thoughts
I fine with John's division, I have to play back-seat driver due to schedule at times. This week is busy, though should be fine through the holidays.
To Mike Solli's point, I agree, though 4 RO boats start around Wake. I am not happy in general with the initial sub dispositions. After the opening gun, some of those Glen subs around Hawaii will move Southwest to track for USN CV's. A couple Glen plus 3-4 cruiser subs will go Northeast, to hopefully get lucky and pick off a damaged BB heading for repairs, or a troop transport to Hawaii. The RO-Boats around Wake should be redeployed to SW Pacific. In general, Glen subs should be in Central/SW Pacific, where we need the search capability.
I don't think we need many CV in the DEI either. Once we turkey shoot the PI refugees, we can probably move Car Div 2 back to Central Pacific. CV support is a "nice to have" for the Kuching and Kendari landings, but not necessary if there are enough LB Zero and Nell/Betty available. More important to have surface ships to fight off Force Z, or BB's to soak Martin attacks. I do worry about the UK Torpedo Bombers at Singapore, and those TIVas, almost as much as Force Z.
To Mike Solli's point, I agree, though 4 RO boats start around Wake. I am not happy in general with the initial sub dispositions. After the opening gun, some of those Glen subs around Hawaii will move Southwest to track for USN CV's. A couple Glen plus 3-4 cruiser subs will go Northeast, to hopefully get lucky and pick off a damaged BB heading for repairs, or a troop transport to Hawaii. The RO-Boats around Wake should be redeployed to SW Pacific. In general, Glen subs should be in Central/SW Pacific, where we need the search capability.
I don't think we need many CV in the DEI either. Once we turkey shoot the PI refugees, we can probably move Car Div 2 back to Central Pacific. CV support is a "nice to have" for the Kuching and Kendari landings, but not necessary if there are enough LB Zero and Nell/Betty available. More important to have surface ships to fight off Force Z, or BB's to soak Martin attacks. I do worry about the UK Torpedo Bombers at Singapore, and those TIVas, almost as much as Force Z.
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RE: Thoughts
Good luck, guys! You should make great teammates and the Allies will be in for a drubbing, at least into '43. But the heck with all these house rules!
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RE: Thoughts
I use the turn 1 hyper move to re-position many of my ships, to include many subs.
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RE: Thoughts
Mike--I do the same thing with the 'warp' speed movement. I just emailed Brad saying that I don't land hardly anywhere on Dec 7th other then Batan Island and Guam. Everything else is all about repositioning warships, SS, planes, and troops for the Offensive. As to the Ro-SS, I plan to move them to Truk, swap their commanders some, and then send them to PM and Rabaul area for some 'sport.'
Thanks for the thoguhts Dan. I just sent you a turn. The msn website is having all sorts of issues for email. It took me forver to send you your turn.
Thanks for the thoguhts Dan. I just sent you a turn. The msn website is having all sorts of issues for email. It took me forver to send you your turn.
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RE: Major Japanese Forces at Start
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I would use the whole KB for Pearl Harbour and allocate a lot of Betties and Nells to do the Manila attack. With 150 bombers going after Manila, there won´t be a single ship that isn´t hit, at least this is my experience. You hit those ships either with 800kg bombs or 18 inch torps, so every sub hit with such a weapon should be dead anyway. If you grab a level 4 airfield the first day, you can use it the next day and place Sallies there to finish the job in Manila´s port. Use the CVL (Ryuho?) that starts near the Philipines to have also the 18 Kates in the port attack.
I can´t see why you should need parts of the KB in the SRA. I have heard about that really often, but I could never figure out what I should do with carriers in the SRA. There are a dozen bases that can accomodate Zeroes and Betties/Nells so I had never a need for KB in four years of playing. I´m no fan of splitting KB anyway.
The house rule said that only carrier based air could do port attacks.
sorry, missed that one...
RE: Major Japanese Forces at Start
Yeah, not sure what is more restrictive; one port attack using everything you have, or multiple port attacks from CV's only. I suspect the latter, because otherwise we could nuke Manila AND bomb Hickham Field so badly that a turn 2 strike at Pearl could be effective.
Early Econ Moves
Brad sent this to me earlier:
Changes so far:
1. All Units Rounded out for extra Pilots.
2. Claudes on Zuiho and Ryujo swapped for ZEROS; I know, that means first turn they will not be active, but Car Div 2 will provide the escort for the Manila strike, and after that, we will really want Zeros on those CVs to cover the Kuching landings. A bit of a risk that hopefully will pay off. For this reason, Zuiho must be kept on West side of Luzon away from Bolos at Cagayan.
Vehicle Production Increased 50%
Val + 24
Kate + 24
Zero + 79
Oscar + 56
Tina + 5
Sally + 34
Tony and Tojo: More RD lines each
All useless planes turned off and/or converted to something else
All useless engines converted to NAKA; Naka up + 173
Naval Shipyard + 135
All Repair for R&D factories for A/C models appearing after 2/43 are turned off (for now)
Changes so far:
1. All Units Rounded out for extra Pilots.
2. Claudes on Zuiho and Ryujo swapped for ZEROS; I know, that means first turn they will not be active, but Car Div 2 will provide the escort for the Manila strike, and after that, we will really want Zeros on those CVs to cover the Kuching landings. A bit of a risk that hopefully will pay off. For this reason, Zuiho must be kept on West side of Luzon away from Bolos at Cagayan.
Vehicle Production Increased 50%
Val + 24
Kate + 24
Zero + 79
Oscar + 56
Tina + 5
Sally + 34
Tony and Tojo: More RD lines each
All useless planes turned off and/or converted to something else
All useless engines converted to NAKA; Naka up + 173
Naval Shipyard + 135
All Repair for R&D factories for A/C models appearing after 2/43 are turned off (for now)
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RE: Early Econ Moves
I know Uamaga has done some testing with R&D
And I have seen the same with my games. Larger R&D facilities tend to repair faster than smaller ones. So be careful with the multi-lines of of small R&D facilities.
Cheers
Damian
Chance of factory element repair depends not only on number of days left (to availability date) but also on size of the given R&D factory.
And I have seen the same with my games. Larger R&D facilities tend to repair faster than smaller ones. So be careful with the multi-lines of of small R&D facilities.
Cheers
Damian
More Strategic Chat
Morning Exchange of Thoughts between Brad and Me:
John;
I can't do much during the day today, so keep working on the file. I only had a chance to look today, so far not doing much on the setup other than the production.
I see the 16th, 18th, 5th, Imp Gd. divisions will invade Malaya. We need to clear Singapore very early, this should do it.
The 56th is headed to PM. This is the initial SW Pac core force, with some other SNLF troops.
The 33rd and 55th are invading Burma.
This leaves several units unallocated; I think the 48th and 65th bde should invade Luzon. That leaves the 21st, 4th at Shanghai, and 2nd at Kagoshima. Sometime in the first two weeks, the 38th will also be available.
RE: Luzon, I think if we need to land on Southern Luzon as well. Have to take Naga, because otherwise it will produce supplies for the Allies. We need to show enough force to make them retreat to Clark and/or Manila. They will probably retreat to Manila. Either way, we need to capture or enter the same hex as all the resource centers. In terms of forces for that, I think we probably should assign a division to that, maybe the 2nd or 4th. Maybe the 21st, because it's prepped for Naga, though I doubt there would be a battle there. That would mean 2+ Divisions on Luzon, but if things go well, we could pull a Bde off in January.
My Response
Good Morning Sir!
I'll keep plugging on the turn. Questions:
1. What do you think about landing in Northern Luzon with 48th ID and 65th Brig and then add the 4th (Shanghai) as a follow-on unit to see how far they can go? We could add a nice amount of Artillery is wanted plus a few Base Force and then just bomb the heck out of the Phil until the DEI is taken.
2. The 38th ID will open up when Hong Kong falls. Where do you want to move it? We could use it to attack the southern Philippines or use it as the major component of the Central DEI drive on Tarakan and Balikpapan?
3. Do you want to earmark one of those Brigades at Saigon for Philippine action or should we use those 3 Brigades for Kuching and Palembang?
4. The 2nd ID at Kagoshima could be set to attack somewhere as well. It will take a while since we have no shipping there on the 7th.
5. I think 4 ID should destroy Malaya FAST! How much Artillery do you think should go there?
6. The South Seas Detachment and 56th ID should provide plenty of punch for the Rabaul and PM thrust. The smaller Inf units there, with a bunch of Construction Btns can take the Lae area, Gili-Gili, New Britain, and northern Solomons.
7. I would like to pull those small Chinese Brigades out as fast as we can (there are 6-8 of them) and send them to reinforce the Central and SE Pac.
8. I ordered two large Naval Guard units (over 100 AS each) to Kwajalein for some punch in operations there. We'll need to grab Tarawa within the first week and get to building it up. Your comment regarding a large Base Force for Wake is GREAT! Hadn't even thought of it so I will look around the map for one to move. There should be 4-6 Construction Btns on the way to Kwaj from elsewhere to help with base expansion.
9. I gamed out switching the CVs with Mini-KB (Ryujo, Zuiho, Taiyo, and Hosho--52 Fighters and 56 TB) on the west side and CarDiv2 on the east side. It worked pretty well. After we hit Manila Bay on the 7th I figure we move them slightly south and slaughter ships coming out of Manila and other points in the Philippines. Once they have fled, you can use the Mini-KB to support the Kuching Landing and I could move CarDiv 2 to support an Amboina Landing. Once we have those spots, LBA can have a free hand in killing ships. What do you think of that?
I need to play my morning turn with Dan and will then pull up the turn. Should take me about an hour to play it and issue orders for our next turn. Let me know what you think if you can and I will do some more ordering on our 1st turn.
When I send it to you tonight, make sure to redeploy all those SS around Malaya and Pearl Harbor. I ordered the Mine-SS (I-121 through 124 to mine Batavia, Singapore, and Soerabaja. There are 4 SS in Hiroshima that I ordered to mine the hex due west of Manila Bay. The Ro-Boats got ordered to Truk so I can replace their Commanders and then they will head towards Rabaul and PM. The SS at Malaya and PH shoudl give you over 40 boats to place wherever you want to cause maximum chaos!
John
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John;
I can't do much during the day today, so keep working on the file. I only had a chance to look today, so far not doing much on the setup other than the production.
I see the 16th, 18th, 5th, Imp Gd. divisions will invade Malaya. We need to clear Singapore very early, this should do it.
The 56th is headed to PM. This is the initial SW Pac core force, with some other SNLF troops.
The 33rd and 55th are invading Burma.
This leaves several units unallocated; I think the 48th and 65th bde should invade Luzon. That leaves the 21st, 4th at Shanghai, and 2nd at Kagoshima. Sometime in the first two weeks, the 38th will also be available.
RE: Luzon, I think if we need to land on Southern Luzon as well. Have to take Naga, because otherwise it will produce supplies for the Allies. We need to show enough force to make them retreat to Clark and/or Manila. They will probably retreat to Manila. Either way, we need to capture or enter the same hex as all the resource centers. In terms of forces for that, I think we probably should assign a division to that, maybe the 2nd or 4th. Maybe the 21st, because it's prepped for Naga, though I doubt there would be a battle there. That would mean 2+ Divisions on Luzon, but if things go well, we could pull a Bde off in January.
My Response
Good Morning Sir!
I'll keep plugging on the turn. Questions:
1. What do you think about landing in Northern Luzon with 48th ID and 65th Brig and then add the 4th (Shanghai) as a follow-on unit to see how far they can go? We could add a nice amount of Artillery is wanted plus a few Base Force and then just bomb the heck out of the Phil until the DEI is taken.
2. The 38th ID will open up when Hong Kong falls. Where do you want to move it? We could use it to attack the southern Philippines or use it as the major component of the Central DEI drive on Tarakan and Balikpapan?
3. Do you want to earmark one of those Brigades at Saigon for Philippine action or should we use those 3 Brigades for Kuching and Palembang?
4. The 2nd ID at Kagoshima could be set to attack somewhere as well. It will take a while since we have no shipping there on the 7th.
5. I think 4 ID should destroy Malaya FAST! How much Artillery do you think should go there?
6. The South Seas Detachment and 56th ID should provide plenty of punch for the Rabaul and PM thrust. The smaller Inf units there, with a bunch of Construction Btns can take the Lae area, Gili-Gili, New Britain, and northern Solomons.
7. I would like to pull those small Chinese Brigades out as fast as we can (there are 6-8 of them) and send them to reinforce the Central and SE Pac.
8. I ordered two large Naval Guard units (over 100 AS each) to Kwajalein for some punch in operations there. We'll need to grab Tarawa within the first week and get to building it up. Your comment regarding a large Base Force for Wake is GREAT! Hadn't even thought of it so I will look around the map for one to move. There should be 4-6 Construction Btns on the way to Kwaj from elsewhere to help with base expansion.
9. I gamed out switching the CVs with Mini-KB (Ryujo, Zuiho, Taiyo, and Hosho--52 Fighters and 56 TB) on the west side and CarDiv2 on the east side. It worked pretty well. After we hit Manila Bay on the 7th I figure we move them slightly south and slaughter ships coming out of Manila and other points in the Philippines. Once they have fled, you can use the Mini-KB to support the Kuching Landing and I could move CarDiv 2 to support an Amboina Landing. Once we have those spots, LBA can have a free hand in killing ships. What do you think of that?
I need to play my morning turn with Dan and will then pull up the turn. Should take me about an hour to play it and issue orders for our next turn. Let me know what you think if you can and I will do some more ordering on our 1st turn.
When I send it to you tonight, make sure to redeploy all those SS around Malaya and Pearl Harbor. I ordered the Mine-SS (I-121 through 124 to mine Batavia, Singapore, and Soerabaja. There are 4 SS in Hiroshima that I ordered to mine the hex due west of Manila Bay. The Ro-Boats got ordered to Truk so I can replace their Commanders and then they will head towards Rabaul and PM. The SS at Malaya and PH shoudl give you over 40 boats to place wherever you want to cause maximum chaos!
John
PS I am going to post this on the AAR site.
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The Turn is OUT!
After far more work, debate, and discussion then I ever thought to have regarding the opening of the campaign the turn has been sent to the Allies. I figure once we get it back and can run through the results, we'll do a long posting from each of our perspectives. Should be interesting and fun!
May the Force be with us...
May the Force be with us...
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I ordered the Mine-SS (I-121 through 124 to mine Batavia, Singapore, and Soerabaja.
Be careful. In a PBEM (stock) I ordered one of those minelaying subs to mine Singapore and lost her on 7 Dec to a minefield there. Not sure if that's the case in your mod. You may want to find out.
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More Strategic Chat
I've never played a 2x2 in anything other then stock. I am a huge supporter of Brian's work with his Mod and look forward to playing it out against Michael and Paul. I've known the two of them for quite some time and they are great guys. Brad and I are getting to know each other as we struggle to define our boundaries and directions within the new campaign.
There are so many TF set to move on turn one that I have no clue as to what will truly end up where.
Greg Moses taught me to make a conservative opening move for Japan years ago. The key to turn one is to get troops, supplies, and fuel to where you NEED them! We've endeavored to do that in this campaign.
Ground Decisions:
1. I believe that the only landing against hostile territory will be at Aparri, Batan Isle, and Guam.
2. The massed might of the Imperial Army will land at Singora for the drive to Singapore.
3. Bangkok will be a nexus of another large concentration of units as they unload there for the drive into Burma.
4. Palau goes gains a decent amount of strength to the drive into Eastern DEI.
5. The base at Truk gains a HUGE amount of strength as opposed to the historical start. The a number of small units plus 14th Army HQ, Combined Fleet, 11th Air Fleet, and 56th Inf Div are the biggest and most important units arriving there. The South Seas Detachment will join this force after Guam is dealt with. Aerial reinforcements will arrive later to buttress this move in the SE Pac.
6. Kwajalein gains 3 large Naval Guard units, a number of Con Btns, and several Base Forces.
Final Naval Deployment:
1. BB Mutsu/Nagato arrive at Saigon to reinforce and provide cover for operations in the western DEI.
2. BB Fuso/Yamashiro/Hyuga/Ise move to Palau.
3. BC Kongo/Hauna move to Truk. The CA TF that bombards Guam will then move to Truk to further strengthen the Fleet there.
4. Kido Butai
Pearl Harbor Strike Force (Akagi/Kaga, Shokaku/Zuikaku) will hit the base once and then immediately retire towards Kwajalein.
Eastern Philippines Strike Force (Hiryu/Soryu) strike Manila Bay and then will loiter in the area for a few days sinking anything escaping from the Philippines. They will then cover the Amboina Landing before heading east to link up with their larger sisters.
Western Philippines Strike Force (Ryujo, Zuiho, Hosho, Taiyo) will hit Manila Bay, intercept fleeing shipping, and then move to cover the Kuching Landing.
There are so many TF set to move on turn one that I have no clue as to what will truly end up where.
Greg Moses taught me to make a conservative opening move for Japan years ago. The key to turn one is to get troops, supplies, and fuel to where you NEED them! We've endeavored to do that in this campaign.
Ground Decisions:
1. I believe that the only landing against hostile territory will be at Aparri, Batan Isle, and Guam.
2. The massed might of the Imperial Army will land at Singora for the drive to Singapore.
3. Bangkok will be a nexus of another large concentration of units as they unload there for the drive into Burma.
4. Palau goes gains a decent amount of strength to the drive into Eastern DEI.
5. The base at Truk gains a HUGE amount of strength as opposed to the historical start. The a number of small units plus 14th Army HQ, Combined Fleet, 11th Air Fleet, and 56th Inf Div are the biggest and most important units arriving there. The South Seas Detachment will join this force after Guam is dealt with. Aerial reinforcements will arrive later to buttress this move in the SE Pac.
6. Kwajalein gains 3 large Naval Guard units, a number of Con Btns, and several Base Forces.
Final Naval Deployment:
1. BB Mutsu/Nagato arrive at Saigon to reinforce and provide cover for operations in the western DEI.
2. BB Fuso/Yamashiro/Hyuga/Ise move to Palau.
3. BC Kongo/Hauna move to Truk. The CA TF that bombards Guam will then move to Truk to further strengthen the Fleet there.
4. Kido Butai
Pearl Harbor Strike Force (Akagi/Kaga, Shokaku/Zuikaku) will hit the base once and then immediately retire towards Kwajalein.
Eastern Philippines Strike Force (Hiryu/Soryu) strike Manila Bay and then will loiter in the area for a few days sinking anything escaping from the Philippines. They will then cover the Amboina Landing before heading east to link up with their larger sisters.
Western Philippines Strike Force (Ryujo, Zuiho, Hosho, Taiyo) will hit Manila Bay, intercept fleeing shipping, and then move to cover the Kuching Landing.
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It's been awhile since I did a 7 Dec turn (and never in this mod) but I used to deploy a NLF from Iwo Jima (?) to Guam and us the 7 Dec move to get the SSD out into the Pacific toward Tarawa or Rabaul (or wherever you want it). I shipped the NLF on DDs (the ones attached to the 4 CA TF that includes the Furutakas) from Iwo Jima to Guam. Saves the SSD for something more important.
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