Another Tiger Trivia Question

Redleg · Post by **Redleg** » Sat Aug 10, 2002 11:08 pm

I believe Hungary received 3 Tigers in 1944. Does anyone know what became of these tanks and if they were ever committed to battle?

Orzel Bialy · Post by **Orzel Bialy** » Sat Aug 10, 2002 11:42 pm

see this link, bottom of page. It a place to start and it at least tells us the time they were transferred and from what unit they were originally pulled from.

http://www.fprado.com/armorsite/tigers-02.htm

I'll see what else I can find!

Fabio Prado · Post by **Fabio Prado** » Sun Aug 11, 2002 12:20 am

The only documented fact is that "on 22 July 1944, three Tiger Is left the ordnance depot by rail for delivery to the Hungarian Army. In addition, an unknown number of Tiger Is were acquired from the sPzAbt.503 or the 509th who had been assigned to train the Hungarian crews."
It seems that those Tigers were sold to Hungary, but I couldn't find any info on what happened to them. In my opinion, if they ever arrived in Hungary, they were taken back by the Germans and assigned to some Whermacht or Waffen SS unit, most probably a sPzAbt, but I can only guess...
I never found anything about any fighting action of an Hungarian Tiger unit. However, they were trained on the Tiger, there are photos of Hungarian crews being trained by German crews in 1944. I have one posted at http://www.fprado.com/armorsite/tigers-02.htm.

I also would like to know what happened to those Tigers...

Fab

Orzel Bialy · Post by **Orzel Bialy** » Sun Aug 11, 2002 12:30 am

right from "the man" himself!

When you want news on a kitty...go to the person who loves them the most. lol.

Fabio Prado · Post by **Fabio Prado** » Sun Aug 11, 2002 12:35 am

ROTFL

Fab

Redleg · Post by **Redleg** » Sun Aug 11, 2002 2:30 am

I just love these little bits of "lost" history. To those involved, they were definitely not "bits" but of extreme importance.

I'd like to find out more about the 3 Hungarian Tigers.

chief · Post by **chief** » Sun Aug 11, 2002 2:54 am

I suspect Fabio has a little sand box for all his miniture german kitties to crawl around in. Is that true Fabs ?:D

Redleg · Post by **Redleg** » Sun Aug 11, 2002 10:18 am

ROTFL. I can just picture Fabs with a sand box full of Tigers!

Sort of like my pre-occupation with Avalon Hill stuff a long while back. The boardgame would be set up permanently for periodic study while waiting for the pbem to arrive via snail mail.

BTW, combat was resolved using stock market quotes. Remember?

chief · Post by **chief** » Mon Aug 12, 2002 1:07 am

Redleg:
The Avalon Hill (board) games I used had to do with railroads (was an HO modeler) and I have bad memories of a game that was supposed to be even sided (sorry I don't remember AH name). Well the wife said that don't look too bad and challenged me. She set up a system of moves that became unbeatable, so much so that AH asked for her movements and verified that she really did have an unbeatable system, they pulled the game from circulation and sent HER 2 free AH games for proving them wrong. We also got to keep the original but I never played against her again.

Redleg · Post by **Redleg** » Mon Aug 12, 2002 1:12 am

Well, that tops any board game story I know of. Wow!

I never developed into a good board game player - at the time, the desire was there but the constraints of time wouldn't allow much practice. The Army really is a "jealous mistress" as we used to say.

Fabio Prado · Post by **Fabio Prado** » Mon Aug 12, 2002 4:13 am

Originally posted by chief
I suspect Fabio has a little sand box for all his miniture german kitties to crawl around in. Is that true Fabs ?:D

Yep. I have "some" sandboxes, but the one you're talking about have a full sPz.Kompanie (14 Tigers + 1 "Stab" Tiger) and a LOT of Soviet Tanks to match. All older 1:72/1:76 models...

I did it whan I was a lot younger and could see the small parts...

Now I have a lot of Roco Minitanks. They are small, but are really easy to set up. I have four on top of my monitor: a Leopard 2A4, a Tiger I (early), a M1A2 Abrams and a brand new Leopard 2A6 with the new 120mm L/55 gun (received last Thursday).

A small note: My wife hates my models even more than my computer wargaming. I never managed to understand why...

Fab

chief · Post by **chief** » Mon Aug 12, 2002 8:35 am

Fabio: I was really kidding about the sandbox and kitties, but it seems I was closer to the thruth then I realized.

She dosen't like your models because they collect dust, now when I modeled HO trains I told my wife that the dust was road grime, you can use the excuse that its camo.

Have a good evening and thanks for your sense of humor.

Fabio Prado · Post by **Fabio Prado** » Mon Aug 12, 2002 6:43 pm

Originally posted by chief
Fabio: I was really kidding about the sandbox and kitties, but it seems I was closer to the thruth then I realized.

She dosen't like your models because they collect dust, now when I modeled HO trains I told my wife that the dust was road grime, you can use the excuse that its camo.

Have a good evening and thanks for your sense of humor.

Now that's what I call a GREAT idea!

From now on, dust will be enhanced camo!:D

Thanks a lot, Chief!

Fab

Grenadier · Post by **Grenadier** » Mon Aug 12, 2002 7:46 pm

That only went so far with my wife. When my 35 year old 1/35 scale Tamiya sand yellow / red-brown Tigers and Panthers became white from the accumulated dust, off they went into the garage rafters. I tried the snow camo story, but that did not go even as far as a Tiger with a broken track:D

chief · Post by **chief** » Mon Aug 12, 2002 8:45 pm

Brent: Ah women/wives never will understand our hobbies (and the dust) we generate. Now if I can only get mine to pick up the brass after a battle..........

Redleg · Post by **Redleg** » Mon Aug 12, 2002 9:05 pm

I sure can relate to the dusty toys that seem to accumulate around my house.

My toys have been boxed up and relegated to cardboard boxes in the storage shed.... except for a couple of my favorites.

Kanon Fodder · Post by **Kanon Fodder** » Tue Aug 13, 2002 7:48 pm

Originally posted by chief
Redleg:
The Avalon Hill (board) games I used had to do with railroads (was an HO modeler) and I have bad memories of a game that was supposed to be even sided (sorry I don't remember AH name). Well the wife said that don't look too bad and challenged me. She set up a system of moves that became unbeatable, so much so that AH asked for her movements and verified that she really did have an unbeatable system, they pulled the game from circulation and sent HER 2 free AH games for proving them wrong. We also got to keep the original but I never played against her again.

Man, that's gotta HURT!

chief · Post by **chief** » Tue Aug 13, 2002 9:39 pm

Kannon it took 3 years to live it down....even if i beat her in a different game, she reminded me of my DEFEAT..

CCB · Post by **CCB** » Fri Aug 16, 2002 2:27 am

Originally posted by chief
Redleg:
The Avalon Hill (board) games I used had to do with railroads (was an HO modeler) and I have bad memories of a game that was supposed to be even sided (sorry I don't remember AH name). Well the wife said that don't look too bad and challenged me. She set up a system of moves that became unbeatable, so much so that AH asked for her movements and verified that she really did have an unbeatable system, they pulled the game from circulation and sent HER 2 free AH games for proving them wrong. We also got to keep the original but I never played against her again.

I think I've heard about this years ago. Didn't AH do a feature story on this in 'The General'?

BTW, which RR do you model. I have a large collection of SP HO equipment.

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