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...btw, it'll be in 2 versions; Dec. 7 start and Dec. 8 start. Ciao.
Great news, Thank You [&o]
You are very welcome. I happen to be one of those non-compos, non-possibilimus, non-conspiritu-tuo, kinda folks that believe the war started out of the wreckage of the PH attack. I am a firm believer in a Dec. 8 start (with some tweaks in Malaya to make it happen). Any scen I am involved with, will have a Dec. 8 start alternative. Ciao.

Sounds like you chanting a Catholic mass, just need to throw in a couple of dominos. NOTE NOT MEANT TO BE OFFENSIVE IN ANY WAY.
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Oh poo. can't figure out how the show cyrillic characters. Damn! Oh well.

Note to Monter (or anyone else with helpful info). Got your email. Thanks a bunch. Yeah I had to giggle over the nonexistent boats, too. Will fix.

As to spelling: the the bitch is that bl and e-kratk’e behind the different consonants. I know the official transliteration of bl is ‘y’ and e-kratk’e is ‘i’ or ‘y’, but the combo makes a sound not easily represented in English. E-kratk’e is a weird phenome in English. Conways is all jumbled; sometimes the combo is written y, sometimes iy, sometimes yi. The combo sound, in English, is more like ‘iee’ (rising inflection), than ‘yee’, so I really don’t like the ‘yi’ transliterated spelling. Think a better representation is ‘iy’ altogether.

Have all the Projekt-7’s (Gnevniy’s), built at Dalzavod or Komsomolsk #3, dialed in (minus the 2 that went to Northern Fleet), but don’t have a handle on the Noviks that were assigned to Pacific Fleet (if any - think there were only 6 Noviks that survived the war and wonder if any were ever in Pac Flt). Would also like to know which of the Town class (if any) were schlepped off to the Pacific Fleet after July 1944. Help is appreciated.
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Hi. I can understand your problems with quite easy (for a Polish) endings such as ый (BTW Russian letters are 95% compatibile with Polish ones, while English to Polish has compatibility less than 50%). Much harder for me are your "yee-s" and "iee-s". Out of note, in Polish transliteration we write those as "-yj" (j spelled as in New York) so English "-yi" is much more familiar.

From 7 Noviks that survived the war, in Pacific Fleet were two: Stalin and Voikov. And apart form Baku which left Pacific Fleet in 1942, none of the other Town class ships changed fleet during WWII. That leaves only Baku and Tbilisi.

And I have a question - does method of implementation of Soviet Navy permits giving them arrival date and withdrawal date? Some of Pacific Gnevnyis were commisioned after Dec 7th, 1942, and few ships were transferred to Europe in mid 1942.
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Hi. I can understand your problems with quite easy (for a Polish) endings such as ûé (BTW Russian letters are 95% compatibile with Polish ones, while English to Polish has compatibility less than 50%). Much harder for me are your "yee-s" and "iee-s". Out of note, in Polish transliteration we write those as "-yj" (j spelled as in New York) so English "-yi" is much more familiar.

From 7 Noviks that survived the war, in Pacific Fleet were two: Stalin and Voikov. And apart form Baku which left Pacific Fleet in 1942, none of the other Town class ships changed fleet during WWII. That leaves only Baku and Tbilisi.

And I have a question - does method of implementation of Soviet Navy permits giving them arrival date and withdrawal date? Some of Pacific Gnevnyis were commisioned after Dec 7th, 1942, and few ships were transferred to Europe in mid 1942.
Gosh, I wish I knew how to get Cyrillic characters to post. It would make things so much easier.

I like your Polish transliteration; notice that Uboats.net uses the same. So what I’ll do is write ûé as yj and write èé as ij. I rather like that, it adds a bit of a Euro touch and avoids too much Anglo-centricism.

[edit] Oh bloody hell - ok, û is (bl), é is e-kratke, and è is just e - I hate not being able to post characters.

Yes. Sov ships can have arrival and withdrawal dates; so Rezkij can show up (in data) at Dalzavod #202 on 07/31/42. She won’t show up in port, unless Sovs are activated, but she will enter the data stream. Likewise, Razumnyj and Razyaryennyj will withdraw (disappear in data) on the appropriate date (I think – not exactly sure, but will check).

Understand about Tbilisi and Baku. Was actually looking for stuff on the US Wickes DDs, that the Brits called Towns and transferred to the Sovs; believe the Sovs called them Zguchij class. But was wandering through navsource.narod.ru and saw they all went to the Kola Squadron, so that’s not a wonder anymore.

Anyhow, ciao, and thanks for the help. John
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Your date for Rezkij is correct or guesstimate? Site www.warshipsww2.eu/lode.php?language=E& ... dtrida=320 gives 08/16/42 as commissioning date.
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Your date for Rezkij is correct or guesstimate? Site www.warshipsww2.eu/lode.php?language=E& ... dtrida=320 gives 08/16/42 as commissioning date.
Heck, I don't know. Got mine from a couple Russian sites. I don't really care what the real date is. You want to flip a coin?

http://navsource.narod.ru/photos/03/288/index.html has Rezkij entering service July 31, '42. That's only a couple weeks difference, we could split the difference and call it 8/8/42? Or flip a coin. [;)]
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Found some fun Alaska USAT stuff. Actually found the David W. Branch (as Santa Olivia), so here it is, along with a Yukon/Haleakala cross that also works for the Baranof.


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So, JWE... how many Soviet warships (by class) do you have in da mod?
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So, JWE... how many Soviet warships (by class) do you have in da mod?
Basically;
CAs: Kirov, Kaganovich
DD Leaders: Baku, Tbilisi (working on how to handle the withdrawal)
DD-Genvnyjs: Ryanyj, Rastoropnyj, Rezvyj, Retivyj, Reshitelnyj, Revnostnyj, Redkij, Rekordnyj, Rezkij, Raziashchij, (not exactly sure how to handle Razumnyj, Razyaryonnyj, but working on it).
DD-Noviks: Stalin, Voikov
AM-Fugas/Tral: Strela, Cheka, Tros, Provodnik, Podsekatyel, Paravan, Vekha, Kapsul

[edit] and maybe 8 or so of the BO2-type SCs
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Well, just a heads-up as to where we are.

So far, les bebes have just about every single boat in the RAN, RNZN, RIN, RCN, HMLAS, FFL, and STF; have darn near all of USN and RN to March, 1946. I mean, we gots the HMNZS Viti, and the HMAS Pulganbar, and the HMIS Hindustan, and stuff I never knew existed till Don told me so. There is so much stuff in there, it will make a Buddhist raise his robes and dance a Cuban Fandango.

All we're dinking with now, is the teensy fleets for RCN, RN and USN. Little guys like HMCS Moolock, and the like, and a poopload of HDMLs.

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Speaking of which, does anyone have any data on coastal tankers in the Philippines? Not Hai Kwan or La Estrella Caltex, which were chartered to the army and appear in the list of official vessels, but merchant tankers not taken over by the military.

Same question for Burma and India. Hell, might as well ask about Australia and New Zealand too!

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just out of curiosity, will you include non-japanese axis ships?
I guess the long-range SSTs and blockade runners (and anything that should have an out-of-map mission objective) are outside the scope of the game, but what about the ships and subs stationed "on map", for example the German and Italian ships that were in japanese-controlled ports when war broke out?
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They'd still be Japanese.
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[:(]  I am VERY disappointed with this thread! From the title , I thought it would be how to replace "the morale art" with racer ww2 type pin-ups! [:D]
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They'd still be Japanese.

Yep I supposed that - I know that new nationalities can't be added, so I guess stock's approach to "other axis" can be followed (i.e. Thailand, Manchukuo and Nanking China are already IJA in-game - ships would be IJN I guess). What I wondered was will they be in?

I guess they wouldn't be very useful (most were transports, liners and submarine tenders, only a couple of very small warships, I guess they'd be PG and AMc in game terms), but they might fall within the scope of the mod.
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Nope.
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Speaking of which, does anyone have any data on coastal tankers in the Philippines? Not Hai Kwan or La Estrella Caltex, which were chartered to the army and appear in the list of official vessels, but merchant tankers not taken over by the military.

Same question for Burma and India. Hell, might as well ask about Australia and New Zealand too!



Don, the pdf file at www.uscg.mil/History/webcutters/Onondaga_WPG_79. contains over 25 ships in Alaskan waters not in scenario 6. I can't imagine you don't already have these so I won't list them in an email to JWE, unless you request it.

I have been hunting and pecking for da babes in the areas you requested but they are as scarce as hen's teeth.

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Speaking of which, does anyone have any data on coastal tankers in the Philippines? Not Hai Kwan or La Estrella Caltex, which were chartered to the army and appear in the list of official vessels, but merchant tankers not taken over by the military.

Same question for Burma and India. Hell, might as well ask about Australia and New Zealand too!



Don, the pdf file at www.uscg.mil/History/webcutters/Onondaga_WPG_79. contains over 25 ships in Alaskan waters not in scenario 6. I can't imagine you don't already have these so I won't list them in an email to JWE, unless you request it.

I have been hunting and pecking for da babes in the areas you requested but they are as scarce as hen's teeth.


We do seem to have most of them. One or two are outside the bounds - Northwestern was a station ship and I think I recongnized a tug. Will check the list.
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Most of them were later sold, renamed and became officially japanese.
And almost all of them shared the fate of most japanese merchants and got sunk.
Mostly large cargo ships but also oilers, tenders.
Teikai Maru (Fulda), Teiryu Maru (Augsburg), Teishu Maru (Quito), Teikon Maru (Winnetou) and many more.
If you want to include ships captured by Japan what´s the reason not to include ships purchased by Japan during the war? Not talking about the numerous french ships "taken over" from Vichy.
They are so many it really matters.
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