Japanese aircraft production

[pad152]

Glad to see someone is looking at aircraft production costs, it wasn't until I used Tracker for AE that you see the true cost of things![;)]

I'm coming to the conclusion that it really is pilots not planes that really matter, level 60 exp pilots flying Ki-44's don't do as well as level 70 flying KI-43c's. Pilot training is more important than aircraft type, this became clear playing Japanese after the first AE patch slowed pilot training!

[tigercub]

ORIGINAL: pad152

Glad to see someone is looking at aircraft production costs, it wasn't until I used Tracker for AE that you see the true cost of things![;)]

I'm coming to the conclusion that it really is pilots not planes that really matter, level 60 exp pilots flying Ki-44's don't do as well as level 70 flying KI-43c's. Pilot training is more important than aircraft type, this became clear playing Japanese after the first AE patch slowed pilot training!

Yep slowed it to a craw waiting for the next patch to speed it up a little.

I am now in Fed 20th42 pbm game my HI pool is increasing(71,000) supply is still just over 3,000,000 stable
the only thing i really worry about is Resource start of game 7,300,000 and now 5,900,000
and dropping like a stone looking around the map i dont see the much to pick up.I have Singapore and Philippines and Borneo and Palembang (half of Sumatra) and all of Burma and out to PM and Henderson field i feel the lack of Resources will be the crash of my industry.

Tiger!

[Mike Solli]

Tigercub, you will take care of about 90% of Honshu's resource needs by shipping all excess resources from the other Home Islands.  Add in the excess resources from China, Manchuria, Korea, Formosa and Indochina, and you're there.  You really don't need any resources from the SRA.  Honshu needs over 6 million resources a month and produces half that.

[Streptokok]

Im sorry to "fly" in this thread like last newb on Earth but still...

How do you "store" any HI when the pool gets empited every moth due to pilot training?
Seems to me it doesnt matter how much HI I "save" during the month, at the end of it the pool gets cleaned out and it
starts to fill again during the month.

[Mike Solli]

You're going to spend ~20k HI on the first of the month for pilot training.  If that's all you're saving by the end of the month, you're spending too much HI on other things or not producing enough HI.  If you have expanded your economy too much, you're spending is exceeding your HI production.  The other possibility is that your HI factories aren't getting the resources and/or fuel they need to produce HI. 

[tigercub]

So i can relax i have done the right thing my economy is going great guns but don`t under stand the drop in Resources from 7,300,000 at start to now 5,865,000 is it talking about all Resources under my control or just in the Japaneses main land?

Tiger!

[Mike Solli]

It's all the resources you control.  Ship them to Honshu as fast as you can.  Honshu sucks over 6 million resources a month and only produces 3 million a month.

[Streptokok]

ORIGINAL: Mike Solli

You're going to spend ~20k HI on the first of the month for pilot training.  If that's all you're saving by the end of the month, you're spending too much HI on other things or not producing enough HI.  If you have expanded your economy too much, you're spending is exceeding your HI production.  The other possibility is that your HI factories aren't getting the resources and/or fuel they need to produce HI. 

That does not compute. In my game I think I had about 38k, one month over 40k HI stored; it was all gone at the end of month??

[castor troy]

ORIGINAL: tigercub

So i can relax i have done the right thing my economy is going great guns but don`t under stand the drop in Resources from 7,300,000 at start to now 5,865,000 is it talking about all Resources under my control or just in the Japaneses main land?

Tiger!

I had the same question in mind as you, while being sure that it shows total resources, not just the ones in Japan. Which then leads to the problem that you´ve by far not producing enough resources it seems, while other people said they would produce excess resources. No matter if you transport the resources or not, they should increase, not decrease IMO. [&:]

[CMDRMCTOAST]

On another note you will probly want to turn off building Hitachi Amikazi , Hitachi Early , and nakajima koto buki
engine building early, I stopped production of Hitachi Amikazi engines at 125 in pool as these go into the E14Y1 Glens
Wich are the float planes from the subs, you build around 60 subs with this capability and ive already lost 3 of mine
to asw activity in the first month so switching these early helps in the long run.
I may bump up the engines too 175 and build that many aircraft and switch them..
Also
I have a pool of 350 hitachi early engines so I wont build more than that, would need to watch there use as most of those planes
get upgraded.
and a pool of 250 nakajima koto buki engines wich go into the Cluade, Dave and the Nate's..
The other engine in question is the Mitsubishi HA-31 I have 250 of these and am considering running that too 300..
and switching its production to something else..
Maybe some of you numbers crunchers can go into further explanation on this..[&o]

[tigercub]

yes the decline in total resources in the game for Japan is a worry down to 5,700,000 now 28 feb42 from 7,400,000 dec7th and i am not putting big demands on the economy thus far. Mike will the resources bounce back?

Tiger!

[n01487477]

ORIGINAL: CMDRMCTOAST

On another note you will probly want to turn off building Hitachi Amikazi , Hitachi Early , and nakajima koto buki
engine building early, I stopped production of Hitachi Amikazi engines at 125 in pool as these go into the E14Y1 Glens
Wich are the float planes from the subs, you build around 60 subs with this capability and ive already lost 3 of mine
to asw activity in the first month so switching these early helps in the long run.
I may bump up the engines too 175 and build that many aircraft and switch them..
Also
I have a pool of 350 hitachi early engines so I wont build more than that, would need to watch there use as most of those planes
get upgraded.
and a pool of 250 nakajima koto buki engines wich go into the Cluade, Dave and the Nate's..
The other engine in question is the Mitsubishi HA-31 I have 250 of these and am considering running that too 300..
and switching its production to something else..
Maybe some of you numbers crunchers can go into further explanation on this..[&o]

I think you need to look at Tracker re: TBO.YTA and the Engine planning tool ...

[n01487477]

ORIGINAL: tigercub

yes the decline in total resources in the game for Japan is a worry down to 5,700,000 now 28 feb42 from 7,400,000 dec7th and i am not putting big demands on the economy thus far. Mike will the resources bounce back?

Tiger!

This is a bit of a loaded Q. At the beginning of the war you will be losing about -2500 Res/day, this equates to 125 Res Centres. Now unless you have not captured any ResC or have massively increased HI or LI, then I'm confused as to why this has occured. You are losing about x10 the rate I quoted before. [&:] Some Numbers would help to solve this ...

[erstad]

I think the 2500/day is an optimistic estimate. I'm guessing that doesn't include any allowance for attrition in overland movement. I know that I see a lot more resource loss than tools like WitpStaff would predict; percentage wise it's not much but it adds up over time.

Although tigercub's results look a little too bad. As n01487477 asked, have you expanded HI or LI?

[tigercub]

As i am tending to go light about 200 more HI and no light to see what impact it is having before i do much changing.i will give you screen shots

Tiger!

[tigercub]

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[n01487477]

Now this really doesn't make sense ... you should be gaining about 10K Res / day globally.

Do you use Tracker or Staff to look at a history of resources ?

This is from my little VB app. (Not Tracker)

[Mike Solli]

ORIGINAL: castor troy

ORIGINAL: tigercub

So i can relax i have done the right thing my economy is going great guns but don`t under stand the drop in Resources from 7,300,000 at start to now 5,865,000 is it talking about all Resources under my control or just in the Japaneses main land?

Tiger!

I had the same question in mind as you, while being sure that it shows total resources, not just the ones in Japan. Which then leads to the problem that you´ve by far not producing enough resources it seems, while other people said they would produce excess resources. No matter if you transport the resources or not, they should increase, not decrease IMO. [&:]

You guys are right, of course. I must be getting addle-brained.

[vlcz]

Can you be using an incorrect base/zone tracker file that keeps some bases from being taked in account?[&:]