The Japanese Economy

findmeifyoucan · Post by **findmeifyoucan** » Mon Nov 23, 2009 1:08 pm

I also noticed there is no rail movement in China. I set a whole bunch of units to move by rail and the did nothing and just sat there looking stupid. Grrrrrrrr. Why did the game allow me then to give the units orders to do rail movement if they can't do it?

erstad · Post by **erstad** » Mon Nov 23, 2009 10:26 pm

ORIGINAL: findmeifyoucan

I also noticed there is no rail movement in China. I set a whole bunch of units to move by rail and the did nothing and just sat there looking stupid. Grrrrrrrr. Why did the game allow me then to give the units orders to do rail movement if they can't do it?

I use rail movement all the time in China, both as Japan and Allies. Can you be more specific on the problem you are encountering?

A quick primer:
The units have to start on an airfield/base (including dot bases) on the rail (a black line - nothing else is rail)
Put the units in strat mode
Give movement orders to a airfield/base (including dot bases) on the rail.

They will then move on the rail. Note it may take 1, 2, or 3 days for your unit to enter strat mode, but then it is zippy quick. You can also have a reserve sitting in strat mode and it will almost teleport where you want it. It does take 1,2, or 3 days to leave strat mode, but a neat trick is to strat mode to a city and move out the garrison troops, leaving the detraining troops as the garrison.

Note also that only airfields/bases/dot bases are legitimate destinations. You can't order movement to a non-base hex (although I think you might be able to detrain en route). This means there are a few rail spurs which can never be used for rail movement.

Note finally that you have to be on the rail. Sounds obvious, but you can enter strat mode in bases that are not on the rail, because you can also get picked up by ships in strat mode.

Smeulders · Post by **Smeulders** » Mon Nov 23, 2009 10:30 pm

Don't forget, the target base must also be owned by you.

JVSFugitive · Post by **JVSFugitive** » Tue Nov 24, 2009 12:31 pm

The entire length of rail line to your destination must also be completely free of enemy incursions or no go.

xj900uk · Post by **xj900uk** » Thu Nov 26, 2009 11:39 am

Can oil, fuel,  supplies & resources move along the rail line as well as troops in strategic move?
I seem to be having trouble with these across the whole of the map, not just China...

hmota · Post by **hmota** » Sun Nov 29, 2009 7:00 am

Maybe i do something wrong but I can´t load first (zero) turn into WitpStaff, I always get this error message...

findmeifyoucan · Post by **findmeifyoucan** » Wed Dec 02, 2009 11:05 pm

The 36 BFN1's Kate bombers located in Japan at the start, would you convert them to BFN2"s or not?

findmeifyoucan · Post by **findmeifyoucan** » Wed Dec 02, 2009 11:10 pm

Would you convert the 36 BFN1 Kate bombers that start in Japan to BFN2 Kate bombers or not?

Mike Solli · Post by **Mike Solli** » Thu Dec 03, 2009 1:06 pm

I wouldn't.....yet.  All Both Kate models and the Mabel are all pretty good.  You may as well use them.  Besides, you only have 32 B5N2s in the pool to start.  You'll need them for KB.

findmeifyoucan · Post by **findmeifyoucan** » Thu Dec 03, 2009 1:23 pm

Yeah, I noticed in the stats there really isn't very much difference between the B5N1's and B5N2's. B5N2's just a little better in altitude (who cares) and endurance, durability.

Mike Solli · Post by **Mike Solli** » Thu Dec 03, 2009 2:01 pm

Also note that that daitai you mentioned is composed of very good pilots.  I plan on saving them for KB.  But then, I pretty much save all the IJN TB and DB units to rebuild KB's air groups.

FatR · Post by **FatR** » Thu Dec 03, 2009 3:45 pm

One thing that I've noticed after playing for several months is inexorable drop in resources level. While the stockpiles of resources on Honshu remain at a relatively stable level, the overall amount of resources is down to 4838k. I already took almost all major bases in SRA, and oil reserves have started to climb, but resources contuinue to decline. Does anyone know, what I'm doing wrong and what can be done to remedy the situation?

Mike Solli · Post by **Mike Solli** » Thu Dec 03, 2009 4:11 pm

FatR, that seems very wrong.  There definitely is a problem there.  At start, the Japanese holdings start with 7.36 million resources, produce 8.30 million a month and consume 8.37 million resources a month.  They begin with a shortage of 75k resources a month (assuming no increase in HI or LI factories).  Have you increased your HI or LI factories at all? 
 
Also, what are your gains in resources and HI and LI factories?  I guess this could account for it, but that's a huge loss in resources.
 
What's the date?

FatR · Post by **FatR** » Thu Dec 03, 2009 5:18 pm

1 April. I did not expand industry until the last few turns and even then very slightly. I still play under patch 1, awating the full patch 2 version. What I saw initially is more like 75k shortage per day. According to tracker my current resource production is 295 460, and consumption by HI+LI is only 286 135, yet during the last ten turns I've lost more than 200k. As resources do not spoil, there must be some hidden source of wastage.

erstad · Post by **erstad** » Thu Dec 03, 2009 8:46 pm

Yeah, I noticed in the stats there really isn't very much difference between the B5N1's and B5N2's. B5N2's just a little better in altitude (who cares) and endurance, durability.

And Service Rating!

findmeifyoucan · Post by **findmeifyoucan** » Fri Dec 04, 2009 8:43 pm

So, when is the official Patch 2 coming out?

stuman · Post by **stuman** » Fri Dec 04, 2009 8:57 pm

ORIGINAL: findmeifyoucan

So, when is the official Patch 2 coming out?

Eventually

findmeifyoucan · Post by **findmeifyoucan** » Fri Dec 04, 2009 9:04 pm

Well, I am enjoying the Beta anyhow and must say I am really enjoying the improvement on the air rules and the new search arcs!!!

pacificbetta · Post by **pacificbetta** » Mon Dec 07, 2009 2:00 pm

I used to play the dos version of pacific war, but skipped WitP. Recently, i bought AE and am bringing myself up to speed, augmented by memory fragments of the old Pac War.

Is there a need to have ready aircraft (of the correct type of cours) ready in order to receive new airgroups? If so, how many of these aircraft do we need to prepare? Can we have just 1-2 aircraft for each airgroup, and once it is on map, to swap the aircraft to another type?

Another thing which I could not for hell figure out, within bases that are connected by rail, how are items like oil being moved about? I understand we can influence supply drift by setting the supply needed to be mantained at each base, but in the case of oil, does it spread out all over the place even to bases that do not have need for them? Or will it only be automatically transferred (as limited by the volume of course) only to bases with refineries?

findmeifyoucan · Post by **findmeifyoucan** » Mon Dec 07, 2009 3:10 pm

Wow, you played the Dos Version of War in Pacific? That's pretty old isn't it. Old but it was a good game, many years ahead of it's time!!

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