Port Units - What do do with them??

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They look like something to be combined after the first wave of offensives is over and defensive positions need to be consolidated. I find those SNLF units very valuable during the initial conquest phase.

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Concur Mynok.  They will be very valuable once the expansion draws to a close.
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Maybe more than we know. Few AARs have progressed significantly past the Japanese amphibious bonus phase when transport TFs will become much more necessary to move troops around. Add in the fact that Fast Transport is a troop destroyer now with the disruption it causes and getting troops to those outlying bases seems to have become and urgent problem to solve.

These guys may be able to help with that.
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Will this unit fit on an Atoll?  Seems like it could hold its own at a place like Canton or other similar locale.  Might a bit of a waste though...
 
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Definitely a waste IMO. You want these guys at major rear-area bases where they can disembark troops quickly from transport TFs and get them onto real APs for toting to the outliers which will need the built-in unloading ability of those APs to disembark in reasonable fashion. xAks are just not going to cut it for getting troops to small bases. Real APs will be needed. I'm thinking a serious conversion effort once the initial conquests are done will be necessary.

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Definitely a waste IMO. You want these guys at major rear-area bases where they can disembark troops quickly from transport TFs and get them onto real APs for toting to the outliers which will need the built-in unloading ability of those APs to disembark in reasonable fashion. xAks are just not going to cut it for getting troops to small bases. Real APs will be needed. I'm thinking a serious conversion effort once the initial conquests are done will be necessary.


The fact it speeds up resource loading in interesting , if you can load more resources faster from the Chinese and Korean ports that means less ships will be needed.

Btw who says Canton isnt going to be a forward base to load APs for expansion [:D]
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Definitely a waste IMO. You want these guys at major rear-area bases where they can disembark troops quickly from transport TFs and get them onto real APs for toting to the outliers which will need the built-in unloading ability of those APs to disembark in reasonable fashion. xAks are just not going to cut it for getting troops to small bases. Real APs will be needed. I'm thinking a serious conversion effort once the initial conquests are done will be necessary.


The fact it speeds up resource loading in interesting , if you can load more resources faster from the Chinese and Korean ports that means less ships will be needed.

Btw who says Canton isnt going to be a forward base to load APs for expansion [:D]

For what side though [:D][:D][:D]
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Heh....yes, if I was going to vote for which is more probable, Allies would get it.
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Definitely a waste IMO. You want these guys at major rear-area bases where they can disembark troops quickly from transport TFs and get them onto real APs for toting to the outliers which will need the built-in unloading ability of those APs to disembark in reasonable fashion. xAks are just not going to cut it for getting troops to small bases. Real APs will be needed. I'm thinking a serious conversion effort once the initial conquests are done will be necessary.


Mynok, do you mean xAPs or APs? Can we even convert anything to a real AP?
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Does anyone know how many of the Port Unit/SNLF --> Special Base Force conversions we can get?
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Definitely a waste IMO. You want these guys at major rear-area bases where they can disembark troops quickly from transport TFs and get them onto real APs for toting to the outliers which will need the built-in unloading ability of those APs to disembark in reasonable fashion. xAks are just not going to cut it for getting troops to small bases. Real APs will be needed. I'm thinking a serious conversion effort once the initial conquests are done will be necessary.


Mynok, do you mean xAPs or APs? Can we even convert anything to a real AP?

Well....I did in the Guadalcanal scenario I'm playing. I can't say I've actually looked for those conversions in the GC, just assumed they were available there as well.
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Wow, I'll have to check that out tonight. [:D]
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Does anyone know how many of the Port Unit/SNLF --> Special Base Force conversions we can get?

Three that I know of. I'm still hoping someone more ambitious will assemble a complete list with emphasis on "interesting" conversions. (one where the composite TOE has goodies not in the sub components)
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Does anyone know how many of the Port Unit/SNLF --> Special Base Force conversions we can get?

Three that I know of. I'm still hoping someone more ambitious will assemble a complete list with emphasis on "interesting" conversions. (one where the composite TOE has goodies not in the sub components)

From JuanG's post #18, the editor screen shots show 4 Port Units and 4 matching SBF's. Don't know what if any other "interesting" conversions there might be. [:)]
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Here's the scoop:

24 Port Unit + Kure 1 SNLF = 24 Special Base Force
22 Port Unit + Kure 2 SNLF = 22 Special Base Force
23 Port Unit + Sasebo 1 SNLF = 23 Special Base Force
32 Port Unit + Sasebo 2 SNLF = 32 Special Base Force
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