Release Plan

[Wade1000]

Others being impatient and making many posts of rushing the game gets old also. Again, mostly, my posts about not rushing the game have been in response to those. My posts have been placed at relevant locations and threads.
If the moderators think there is an issue then they can contact me.
I don't think there are any issues except when others try telling someone else what or how to post. I have not been telling anyone how or what to post.
I have been making suggestions in my posts, not demands to the devolpers. Yes, I think my suggestions are often...exuberant, but that is also what I like to see in the posts of others.

These negative posts directed towards me are odd since forums are for posting ideas and opinions about relevant topics. Members should not be telling others what or how to post.
Those posts telling others how or what to post might often seem to be trolling.

Good day.

[magickoji]

ORIGINAL: Wade1000

Others being impatient and making many posts of rushing the game gets old also. Again, mostly, my posts about not rushing the game have been in response to those. My posts have been placed at relevant locations and threads.
If the moderators think there is an issue then they can contact me. I don't think there are any issues except when others try telling someone else what or how to post.

Good day.

Nobody's saying to rush the game Wade. We all just want it when the developers release it. Your the one who seems to want it not to be released anytime soon. Or if it is released soon. You feel that it's been rushed.

[Wade1000]

Yes, I think my suggestions are often...exuberant, but that is also what I like to see in the posts of others.

Many others HAVE been advocating rushing the game, saying they want it NOW even though devolpers say it is not yet ready. Yes, that might just be those posters exuberance but so are my posts often in response to theirs. Yet I dont mind seeing their posts.

I have not suggested that if it is released soon that it will positively have been rushed and incomplete. I HAVE stated that if the game IS ready and released then that would be swell. It seems that some of the forum members are selective reading interpretring.

I am just expressing that the game should be released in good condition. That should be expected...well not if amongst fans of the practice of rushing the release beta quality games of many examples lately. If Distant Worlds IS in good condition then, yes, it will be good to have and enjoy.

Rants are cool.

Refine the game for another couple months, please.
Yes...really. Incomplete, beta-stage, released strategy are so annoying, played out, and often don't succeed much.
Though, if Distant Worlds IS ready for release then that will be swell.

http://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=2393647

[Jim D Burns]

ORIGINAL: Gargantou
Also, I have to ask, what does "a chip on your shoulder" mean?

I've always understood it to come from when someone is looking for a fight, and wants/dares you to knock the chip (small piece of wood) off his shoulder and see what happens.

Popular myth says it originated in England over a workers strike, something to do with workers no longer being allowed to carry wood chips home off the work site and the dispute that followed. When authorities tried to stop them they barged past them carrying the chips on their shoulders. Something they had always been allowed to do up till then.

Today it's known more to mean someone has a grudge or agenda and cannot be placated no matter what you may try.

Jim

[impact]

"We all just want it when the developers release it." - Yes, that much is true. And we are all looking forward to a great game that we will spend many hours having fun with. We all want the same thing, so please let us remember that and not start a senseless flamewar in what has been a friendly and helpful community so far.
All I would like to ask is for people to mind their manners. Posting the same opinion over and over again - be it that the game should be released as soon as possible or that the release should be delayed for whatever reason - is trying to push your own agenda. Of course we would all be happy with the game being released yesterday in a perfect, bug-free state with all the features we could ever dream of included. It's obviously just so that some people have a hard time waiting, because of the anticipation (which I completely understand, as I feel the same way) and others react to it, as they are worried that those people are being heard, the release will be pushed by the devs or the publishers even though the game won't be ready.
Both are valid opinions, but it is not necessary and becomes redundant even to the point where it starts to become annoying when it's being repeated over and over again and printed in bold letters (which is just as bad as writing in caps) in almost every forum threat.
This is nothing personal against anybody, as I am sure everyone involved only means well. Let us remember that we all have this strong interest and anticipation for DW in common and behave civilized, treat each other with respect and decency.
The reason why I felt the need to say something in the first place was not to attack anybody, but to simply state that their message was heard loud and clear and that I would very much appreciate it if they could dial back on advertising the same opinions.


Edit: Corrected a few typos... [8|]

[Wade1000]

ORIGINAL: Jim D Burns

ORIGINAL: Gargantou
Also, I have to ask, what does "a chip on your shoulder" mean?

I've always understood it to come from when someone is looking for a fight, and wants/dares you to knock the chip (small piece of wood) off his shoulder and see what happens.

Popular myth says it originated in England over a workers strike, something to do with workers no longer being allowed to carry wood chips home off the work site and the dispute that followed. When authorities tried to stop them they barged past them carrying the chips on their shoulders. Something they had always been allowed to do up till then.

Today it's known more to mean someone has a grudge or agenda and cannot be placated no matter what you may try.

Jim

Yeah, "a chip on one's shoulder" is about a few meanings; looking for a fight, looking for an argument, or keeping a grudge.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chip_on_your_shoulder

Heh, by the way, that's NOT what I am trying to do with my posts. It seems now that some of my posts are about defending myself against those trying to tell me what or how to post.

[Wade1000]

ORIGINAL: Sarissofoi

'A picture is worth a thousand words'

Then Wade1000 this is for you:

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That's an uninstigated attack on me and is trolling. It's most likely against the forum rules.
Bad troll is bad.

Some of you mostly seemed cool and kind previously. Again, though,
it seems now that some of my posts are about defending myself against those trying to tell me what or how to post.

[Wade1000]

ORIGINAL: impact

"We all just want it when the developers release it." - Yes, that much is true. And we are all looking forward to a great game that we will spend many hours having fun with. We all want the same thing, so please let us remember that and not start a senseless flamewar in what has been a friendly and helpful community so far.
All I would like to ask is for people to mind their manners. Posting the same opinion over and over again - be it that the game should be released as soon as possible or that the release should be delayed for whatever reason - is trying to push your own agenda. Of course we would all be happy with the game being released yesterday in a perfect, bug-free state with all the features we could ever dream of included. It's obviously just so that some people have a hard time waiting, because of the anticipation (which I completely understand, as I feel the same way) and others react to it, as they are worried that those people are being heard, the release will be pushed by the devs or the publishers even though the game won't be ready.
Both are valid opinions, but it is not necessary and becomes redundant even to the point where it starts to become annoying when it's being repeated over and over again and printed in bold letters (which is just as bad as writing in caps) in almost every forum threat.
This is nothing personal against anybody, as I am sure everyone involved only means well. Let us remember that we all have this strong interest and anticipation for DW in common and behave civilized, treat each other with respect and decency.
The reason why I felt the need to say something in the first place was not to attack anybody, but to simply state that their message was heard loud and clear and that I would very much appreciate it if they could dial back on advertising the same opinions.


Edit: Corrected a few typos... [8|]

I agree.

[Firehawk153]

ORIGINAL: Leglaen

Wade, I've been lurking here for some time (and enjoyed reading up on DW).

You are correct that you can post what you like--this is a part of the freedom of the Internet.

However, you have agreed to certain restrictions on your freedom by signing up to Matrix's forums. They have the right to control what is posted here. Now, I certainly don't think you've posted anything that is obscene or akin to that; but you have created a flurry of posts which tend to focus on what you want in DW.

Again, that's not a problem--but by registering and posting here on Matrix you have entered into a regulated relationship.

At the very least, I don't think it is polite or proper behavior to continue on a one-track mindset of demand. True, you are the customer--but the natural dignity of human beings (at least) should make you pause and attempt to recognize the gravity of the situation.

For instance, you have constantly bugged for a longer period of beta-testing and not rushing DW. Ok, fine, great, tell Matrix that...once or twice, but in virtually every thread on here? I think Mr. Rutkins and Elliot can read. They understand your perspective.

By the way, that goes for those who want the game NOW...of course we want to play the game. Yet harping on the release date (though good for marketing and such) does at some point become irresponsible.

I certainly have little "pull" or influence here--I merely say these things as a human who likes for folks to respect one another. It can get tense in here the weeks before release. That's understandable. What is less understandable is the continual refrain for now now now or wait wait wait.

Lest anyone assume I am a 'fanboy' or whatnot for Matrix, let me say that I've had some unhappy experiences with them back in the day (due to computer troubles et al). I still intend to buy DW.

Feel free to push back...

You should have seen Wade on the Space Empires V forum, but even then it was never THIS bad...

[Wade1000]

That's an odd statement. On the Space Empires 5 forum about the only thread I was really active on was the wish list thread. Even on that my activity was mostly in the early part of it as I told...well...my wishes; like many others did also.

Maybe you are trolling with your post and I bit.

[magickoji]

ORIGINAL: Wade1000

I have not suggested that if it is released soon that it will positively have been rushed and incomplete. I HAVE stated that if the game IS ready and released then that would be swell. It seems that some of the forum members are selective reading interpretring.

Your right wade, most of the time, I skip over the majority of your posts.

ORIGINAL: Firehawk153


You should have seen Wade on the Space Empires V forum, but even then it was never THIS bad...

Yes it seems his posts do get people stirred up.

[aprezto]

See the little dark green circle/button beside the buddy button below each post. Click that on a user and you wont see their posts.
 
Just thought this thread was about the release plan is all... Two many fish in here biting biting biting. Maybe if they didn't know there was food they'd stop.

[magickoji]

yes that worked. Thank you aprezto.

now I can relax and just wait for the game to come out.

[Wolfe1759]

ORIGINAL: aprezto

See the little dark green circle/button beside the buddy button below each post. Click that on a user and you wont see their posts.

Excellent, that makes this bit of the forum a lot less irritating to read.

[Firehawk153]

Wade, are you serious?  You do the internet equivalent of standing on a table with a bullhorn and screaming your opinion over and over at passerby's and then you get offended when someone calls you down on it?  No one ever said you couldn't post your opinion, no one ever said you couldn't be passionate and submit ideas but just tone it down some, that's all we are saying.

Okay......I'm done, thanks apretzo.  Looking forward to DW.

[Footslogger]

I have a quick question. I have no way of ordering DW online. Bear with me. How long will it take to get a physical copy? Will NWS Online Gaming Store have it?

Thank you friends

[Mad Russian]

You can only order it here from Matrix.

IIRC, the last game I ordered a hard copy of took about 3 days to get to me.

Good Hunting.

MR

[Deto]

ORIGINAL: Mad Russian

You can only order it here from Matrix.

IIRC, the last game I ordered a hard copy of took about 3 days to get to me.

Good Hunting.

MR

On the topic (new one). Do you know if they ship to Finland?

Also. Does physical copy also give you right to download the game? As in if I buy the actual boxed set on release day, can I instantly download it and start playing while waiting for my kit or do I have to wait [8|]

[putzinator]

I'm guessing that NWS will have DW ... they carry pretty much all of matrix's games... try emailing them and asking about it, they answer questions pretty quickly there.

they ship to finland, and if it's like most of matrix's games you can order either a download copy, a physical copy, or a physical+download option.

[DampSquib]

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