Salutations and solicitations.... 1EyedJacks (J) vs Nemo (A)

[Capt. Harlock]

Night Time Surface Combat, near Singapore at 50,84, Range 10,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
BB Kongo, Shell hits 8, on fire
CA Chokai, Shell hits 4, heavy fires
CL Sendai
CL Kinu, Shell hits 1
DD Shiranui
DD Nowaki, Shell hits 4, and is sunk
DD Hagikaze
DD Shiratsuyu
DD Sagiri
DD Kamikaze, Shell hits 2

Allied Ships
BB Colorado, Shell hits 17, on fire
BB California, Shell hits 6, Torpedo hits 2
DD Russell
DD Walke
DD Tucker, Shell hits 1, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk

I managed to sneak another BB TF into his operational depth without him even noticing it... The results weren't amazing as California will be out of the war for some time and Colorado will probably need a month's repairs. Notwithstanding this though the Kongo took a couple of 14 inch shells which penetrated her belt armour and the Chokai is damaged. Neither of these two ships will be available to counter any invasion of Malaysia in a month's time.... Mission accomplished.

If you'll forgive the Monday-morning quarterback, your surface force doesn't seem to have had much "depth". A few more destroyers and some British/Aussie/Dutch CL's to keep the IJN DD's from targeting your battlewagons might have been useful. (At this stage of the war, CA's are almost as much Long Lance magnets as BB's.)

[Nemo121]

Harlock,
Feel free. The force was task-organised. I wanted to hit two IJN capital ships ( I expected 2 BBs but a BB and CA was acceptable ) and put them in repair yards through the end of the month. In order to achieve that no additional CAs etc were required.... Those fast raiders are accompanying the PoW/Repulse down in the Southern DEI where they are much more needed. Referencing Hartwig's post I will say that as the commander of the inferior force I don't have enough to achieve all of my goals and, as such, sometimes I have to settle for achieving the minimum task instead of achieving force annihilation.

It would have been nice to thicken the force as you suggest but I only have 1 CA in theatre and about 4 CLs and those fast raiders will be more use in the Southern DEI/Mindanao/Badeldoab region which I'm currently targetting.


AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Apr 04, 42
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Sub attack near Peleliu at 89,98

Japanese Ships
CA Mogami
DD Yamakaze

Allied Ships
SS O21

This is the IJN SC TF returning to Badeldoab for refuelling.


SS O21 launches 4 torpedoes at CA Mogami
O21 diving deep ....
DD Yamakaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Yamakaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Yamakaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Yamakaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Yamakaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub


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ASW attack near Kwajalein Island at 132,115

Japanese Ships
SSX Ha-21

Allied Ships
DMS Perry
DMS Zane
DMS Elliot
DMS Wasmuth
DMS Chandler
DMS Long



SSX Ha-21 is sighted by escort
DMS Elliot fails to find sub, continues to search...
DMS Wasmuth fails to find sub, continues to search...
DMS Chandler fails to find sub, continues to search...
DMS Long fails to find sub and abandons search
DMS Elliot fails to find sub and abandons search
DMS Wasmuth fails to find sub and abandons search
DMS Chandler fails to find sub, continues to search...
DMS Chandler fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub


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ASW attack near Singapore at 50,84

Japanese Ships
CM Kamome
ACM Muro Maru
ACM Chiyo Maru

Allied Ships
SS Shark, hits 1



SS Shark launches 4 torpedoes at CM Kamome
ACM Muro Maru fails to find sub and abandons search
ACM Chiyo Maru fails to find sub, continues to search...
ACM Chiyo Maru fails to find sub, continues to search...
ACM Chiyo Maru fails to find sub, continues to search...
ACM Chiyo Maru attacking submerged sub ....
ACM Chiyo Maru fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub


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Morning Air attack on Medan , at 46,76

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid spotted at 36 NM, estimated altitude 18,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 41
G4M1 Betty x 4
Ki-21-Ic Sally x 34
Ki-21-IIa Sally x 42
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 18
Ki-48-Ib Lily x 25

This is his biggest air raid since the 1st week in December ( minus those from KB )> He co-ordinated it from 3 separate bases and managed to get 59 fighters escorting. Good work Mike !!!! He has obviously read LoBaron's co-ordination handbook [8D]

My fighters are only just being repaired as I had too few aviation support squads until this morning so too few were in the air to do much good.



Allied aircraft
Martlet II x 5
Hurricane IIb Trop x 4
P-39D Airacobra x 7
P-40E Warhawk x 10


Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 1 destroyed
G4M1 Betty: 1 destroyed, 2 damaged
Ki-21-Ic Sally: 4 damaged
Ki-21-IIa Sally: 7 damaged
Ki-43-Ic Oscar: 1 destroyed
Ki-48-Ib Lily: 1 destroyed, 2 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
Martlet II: 1 destroyed, 2 damaged
Martlet II: 1 destroyed on ground
Hurricane IIb Trop: 1 destroyed, 3 damaged
Hurricane IIb Trop: 1 destroyed on ground
P-39D Airacobra: 1 destroyed, 2 damaged
P-39D Airacobra: 4 destroyed on ground
P-40E Warhawk: 10 damaged
P-40E Warhawk: 2 destroyed on ground
139WH-3: 1 destroyed on ground
B-25C Mitchell: 1 destroyed on ground
Blenheim IV: 1 destroyed on ground

I lost 14 planes including 11 on the ground.



Airbase hits 8
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 38

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Morning Air attack on Medan , at 46,76

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid spotted at 45 NM, estimated altitude 18,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 14 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 3
Ki-48-Ib Lily x 11



Allied aircraft
Martlet II x 1
Hurricane IIb Trop x 1
P-39D Airacobra x 2
P-40E Warhawk x 4


Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-48-Ib Lily: 2 destroyed, 1 damaged


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Morning Air attack on Medan , at 46,76

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid spotted at 42 NM, estimated altitude 18,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes

Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty x 8
Ki-21-IIa Sally x 12



Allied aircraft
Hurricane IIb Trop x 1
P-40E Warhawk x 1


Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21-IIa Sally: 1 destroyed, 4 damaged

Some stragglers didn't co-ordinate but my pilots were so fatigued by this stage they couldn't get many kills.

Runway hits 1

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Morning Air attack on Medan , at 46,76

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid spotted at 11 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 3 minutes

Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty x 15



Allied aircraft
Hurricane IIb Trop x 1


No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
P-40E Warhawk: 1 destroyed on ground



Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 1


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Morning Air attack on Kwajalein Island , at 132,115

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid spotted at 22 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 8 minutes


Allied aircraft
A-20A Havoc x 3
B-18A Bolo x 3
P-400 Airacobra x 15


Allied aircraft losses
A-20A Havoc: 1 damaged

Japanese Ships
SS I-175, Bomb hits 1
SSX Ha-13, Bomb hits 1, heavy damage
SSX Ha-26, Bomb hits 1, and is sunk

One proper I class sub and two midgets. Seriously, how is he getting so many midget subs here? Does anyone have any idea? What are the requirements for spawning them?

Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 1


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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Talaud-eilanden at 79,97

Weather in hex: Overcast

And here he comes with a very experienced bunch of IJNAF pilots for my ships at Talaud. MY fighters and the Zeroes traded pretty much 1 for 1 and then the Bettys all went down.

Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 14 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 24
G4M1 Betty x 5



Allied aircraft
F2A-3 Buffalo x 9
F4F-3A Wildcat x 6
F4F-3 Wildcat x 21


Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 1 destroyed
G4M1 Betty: 4 destroyed

A6M losses here were closer to 6 or 7 than 1 but the CR is often very inaccurate.

Allied aircraft losses
F2A-3 Buffalo: 1 destroyed
F4F-3A Wildcat: 1 destroyed
F4F-3 Wildcat: 2 destroyed




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Ground combat at Chengchow (88,44)

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 3315 troops, 28 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1324

Defending force 38417 troops, 153 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1369

Japanese ground losses:
11 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled


Allied ground losses:
27 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled


Assaulting units:
59th Infantry Brigade
14th RGC Temp. Division
8th Ind.Mixed Brigade
17th RGC Temp. Division
6th NCPC Infantry Brigade
41st Division
138th Infantry Regiment
32nd/C Division
NCPC Army
45th Const Co
46th Const Co
23rd JNAF AF Unit
39th JAAF AF Bn

Defending units:
90th Chinese Corps
39th Chinese Corps
92nd Chinese Corps
59th Chinese Corps
7th New Chinese Corps
5th War Area
22nd Group Army
33rd Group Army


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Ground combat at Talaud-eilanden (79,97)

Allied Shock attack

Attacking force 1016 troops, 14 guns, 72 vehicles, Assault Value = 49

Defending force 333 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 15

Allied adjusted assault: 25

Japanese adjusted defense: 3

Allied assault odds: 8 to 1 (fort level 0)

Allied forces CAPTURE Talaud-eilanden !!!

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(-), preparation(-), fatigue(-)
Attacker: shock(+), fatigue(-), morale(-)


By tomorrow army P-40Es will be basing out of Talaud providing local CAP and the IJNAF will again be whittled down by the USAAF while the USN gathers strength and gets its house in order in order to begin upgrading the F4F-4s.

Japanese ground losses:
36 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled


Allied ground losses:
10 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled


Assaulting units:
2/10th Armoured Regiment
3rd Motor Brigade

Defending units:
1st Indpt SNLF Coy


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Ground combat at Hankow (85,50)

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 82538 troops, 468 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 2651

Defending force 29274 troops, 302 guns, 129 vehicles, Assault Value = 859



Assaulting units:
68th Chinese Corps
87th Chinese Corps
94th Chinese Corps
18th Chinese Corps
53rd Chinese Corps
75th Chinese Corps
2nd Chinese Corps
8th Chinese Corps
67th Chinese Corps
45th Chinese/C Corps
6th War Area
20th Group Army
26th Group Army

Defending units:
57th Infantry Brigade
42nd Naval Guard Unit
1st Ind.Mixed Brigade
44th Naval Guard Unit
47th Naval Guard Unit
43rd Naval Guard Unit
23rd Division
48th Naval Guard Unit
Hankow Special Base Force
16th JAAF Base Force
67th JAAF AF Coy

[Nemo121]

Now that Talaud has fallen I thought I'd show a rough idea of what I'm thinking is now doable.... Basically it is a short right hook through the southern DEI to Mindanao and the Palawan Islands ( which will give me bomber bases ranging against his tanker routes ) whilst the short left hook lands in Malaysia and clears that peninsula before beginning to crawl along the Thai and Vietnamese regions towards China. With land bases on land in Indo-China and the Palawan Islands any hope of getting oil out of Borneo will have to be abandoned and it'll just be a matter of time before Japan collapses.

Phasing is Yellow then Green then Red,

[Nemo121]

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Apr 06, 42

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Night Time Surface Combat, near Singapore at 50,84, Range 10,000 Yards

I was bringing a CL and about 21 DDs to Soerabaja in order to upgrade them to the April 1942 refits in order to be better night fighters ( installation of radar and better AAA suites ) but thought I'd run them into Soerabaja in order to keep the pressure on Mike and to continue thinning out the ships which could comprise SC TFs mustered to counter an invasion of Malaysia.

This tends to cost me more than it costs him but by fighting them now I greatly lessen the risk of having his SC TFs getting in amongst my transports on the crucial first two nights of the invasion. That is worth a slightly less favourable exchange ratio.

Japanese Ships
DMS W-19, Shell hits 2, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
PB Aso Maru #3, Shell hits 33, and is sunk
PB Kamitsu Maru, Shell hits 26, and is sunk

The PBs aren't a big deal but sinking the DMS most assuredly is. Any time I sink a DMS I'm happy as those are some of the few ships which can actually allow surface fleets to conduct raiding operations into the enemy's operational depth with relative impunity from mines.... And on that note the first delivery of 60 mines to Talaud ( another place I expect to become a hotspot for SC TF clashes ) has been ordered today.

Allied Ships
CL Marblehead
DD Dunlap
DD Fanning
DD Barker, Shell hits 1
DD Bulmer
DD Edsall
DD John D. Edwards
DD Paul Jones
DD Parrott
DD Whipple
DD Stewart

One reason I used the non-radar equipped DDs with poor AAA suites is that since they are going to upgrade and be out of combat for 3 weeks anyway I didn't mind taking any damage, or even some losses, to this group. Their guns and AAA are mostly pretty poor even after the upgrade.



Maximum visibility in Partly Cloudy Conditions and 67% moonlight: 10,000 yards
Range closes to 10,000 yards...
CONTACT: Japanese lookouts spot Allied task force at 10,000 yards
English, Robert H. crosses the 'T'

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Night Time Surface Combat, near Singkawang at 56,88, Range 9,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
DD Asashio
DD Namikaze
DD Tatsuyuke, Shell hits 1

I also sent some DDs into Singkawang. The IJN DDs were massively outnumbered but they are far better night fighters than my DDs and they showed it tonight.

Allied Ships
DD Mahan
DD Cummings
DD Drayton
DD Lamson
DD Case
DD Conyngham
DD Shaw, Shell hits 1, on fire
DD Cushing
DD Perkins
DD Preston
DD Reid, Shell hits 1
DD Flusser




Maximum visibility in Partly Cloudy Conditions and 67% moonlight: 11,000 yards
CONTACT: Japanese lookouts spot Allied task force at 9,000 yards
CONTACT: Allied lookouts spot Japanese task force at 9,000 yards
Conolly, Richard L. crosses the 'T'

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Day Time Surface Combat, near Singkawang at 56,88, Range 20,000 Yards

Unfortunately, despite orders to the contrary, the DD TF decided to stick around at Singkawang till morning. I had based it at Palembang which was well within range to dash into Singkawang and be back under air cover at Palembang by morning. Unfortunately they stayed around and paid the inevitable toll to Netties.

Japanese Ships
DD Asashio
DD Namikaze, Shell hits 4, on fire
DD Tatsuyuke, Shell hits 1

Allied Ships
DD Mahan, Shell hits 1
DD Cummings, Shell hits 1, on fire
DD Drayton
DD Lamson
DD Case
DD Conyngham, Shell hits 1
DD Shaw
DD Cushing
DD Perkins
DD Preston, Shell hits 3, on fire
DD Reid, Shell hits 1
DD Flusser



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Day Time Surface Combat, near Singkawang at 55,89, Range 14,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
DD Asashio
DD Namikaze, Shell hits 10, heavy fires, heavy damage
DD Tatsuyuke, Shell hits 1, on fire

Allied Ships
DD Mahan
DD Cummings, on fire
DD Drayton
DD Lamson
DD Case, Shell hits 2
DD Conyngham
DD Shaw, Shell hits 1
DD Cushing, Shell hits 1, on fire
DD Perkins
DD Preston, Shell hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage
DD Reid, Shell hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage
DD Flusser




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ASW attack near Singkawang at 55,87

Japanese Ships
DD Tatsuyuke, on fire
DD Namikaze, heavy fires, heavy damage
DD Asashio

Allied Ships
SS Pike

Pike attacked them as these DDs attempted to make Singapore in order to deliver Namikaze to the docks there.

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Morning Air attack on TF, near Tandjoengpinang at 50,86

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid spotted at 47 NM, estimated altitude 8,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 16 minutes

Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty x 22

These Betties used torpedoes which are relatively ineffective against DDs. When I realised they were launching torps I pretty much gave up on my CL but, amazingly, it survived despite 8 Betties singling it out for attention.



Allied aircraft
Martlet II x 2


Japanese aircraft losses
G4M1 Betty: 8 damaged


Allied Ships
CL Marblehead
DD Stewart
DD Edsall
DD Fanning

Aircraft Attacking:
22 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 18in Type 91 Torpedo

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Morning Air attack on TF, near Singkawang at 55,89

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid spotted at 30 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes

Japanese aircraft
G3M2 Nell x 18



No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
DD Perkins
DD Cushing, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk
DD Cummings, heavy fires

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Morning Air attack on Palembang , at 48,91

Weather in hex: Light rain

Mike tells me these sweeps were inadvertent. Due to incorrectly set orders. I think they may gave him ideas of bombing Palembang so I'll stop the LRCAPing for a couple of days and just CAP the airfield.

Raid spotted at 18 NM, estimated altitude 18,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ia Oscar x 8
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 8



Allied aircraft
P-40E Warhawk x 24


Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-43-Ia Oscar: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-40E Warhawk: 1 destroyed



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Morning Air attack on Medan , at 46,76

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid spotted at 22 NM, estimated altitude 17,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 7 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 17



No Japanese losses

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Morning Air attack on Medan , at 46,76

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid spotted at 47 NM, estimated altitude 20,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-IIa Sally x 25
Ki-30 Ann x 27
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 12



Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21-IIa Sally: 1 damaged


Allied ground losses:
16 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled


Runway hits 7

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Morning Air attack on Palembang , at 48,91

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid spotted at 27 NM, estimated altitude 17,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 9 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 8



Allied aircraft
P-40E Warhawk x 1


No Japanese losses

No Allied losses

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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Tandjoengpinang at 50,86

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid spotted at 28 NM, estimated altitude 8,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 9 minutes

Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty x 18



Allied aircraft
Hurricane IIb Trop x 2


Japanese aircraft losses
G4M1 Betty: 4 destroyed, 2 damaged

1 Hurricane got a total of 3 A2A kills. Those multiple 0.303s really chew through Betties.


Allied Ships
DD Paul Jones
DD John D. Edwards
DD Fanning
CL Marblehead

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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Singkawang at 55,89

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid spotted at 16 NM, estimated altitude 7,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Japanese aircraft
G3M2 Nell x 18



Japanese aircraft losses
G3M2 Nell: 1 damaged

Allied Ships
DD Perkins, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
DD Shaw, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk
DD Cummings, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
DD Reid, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk

OUCH!!! Two of these ships were damaged before and would have been easy targets but two others were quite mobile. For 18 planes to get a total of 6 torpedo hits against manoeuvring DDs is pretty good luck. Ah well, sometimes it happens.

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Afternoon Air attack on Medan , at 46,76

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid spotted at 28 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 9 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-Ic Sally x 18
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 20



Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21-Ic Sally: 1 damaged



Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 3

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Afternoon Air attack on Medan , at 46,76

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid spotted at 30 NM, estimated altitude 19,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 9 minutes

Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty x 11
Ki-21-IIa Sally x 9
Ki-48-Ib Lily x 17



Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21-IIa Sally: 1 damaged



Airbase hits 2
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 19

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Ground combat at Talaud-eilanden (79,97)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 1061 troops, 16 guns, 75 vehicles, Assault Value = 51

Defending force 310 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 13

Allied adjusted assault: 33

Japanese adjusted defense: 5

Allied assault odds: 6 to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), disruption(-), preparation(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
13 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled


Allied ground losses:
14 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled


Assaulting units:
2/10th Armoured Regiment
3rd Motor Brigade

Defending units:
1st Indpt SNLF Coy

I'm just attacking to build up experience in these Australian units. Their experience is only in the low 30s. In the meantime I am hustling to bring significant engineer assets, aviation support assets and at least a Brigade of infantry + CD guns into Talaud in order to:
a) build up the airbase and
b) dissuade counter-invasions.


In other news Mike and I were chatting about China and he said something about me having 4:1 superiority in numbers. I said I thought we were pretty much even in terms of AV... So we checked.

It turns out Mike has some 17,000+ AV with some 5,000 used up in garrisoning cities etc while I have some 21,000 AV with about 2,000 used up in garrisoning cities. Of course his troops are, on average, twice as experienced as mine although that gap is closing somewhat and they don't have the same problems with supply that I do. Still, it was interesting to do that count. I think Mike was surprised by how little I outnumber him ( perhaps 50% ) which, given the disparity in experience is an advantage that is almost certainly wiped out.

I think we're probably even in China except that I have the benefit of somewhat interior lines but much of that benefit is lost through the lack of lateral lines from the northern front in China to the southern. One of the biggest goals of this offensive was to secure such lines but it looks like that objective won't be reached. On the other hand I'm still on track to trap 5,000 AV of IJA troops at Changsha so that's a more than equitable objective in return.

A CA TF is guarding Talaud and the PoW and Repulse are available at Kendari as counter-counter-invasion reaction forces. Yeah, the double-think is getting a bit complex here [:D]

[LTC]

ORIGINAL: Nemo121

Thirdly, anyone playing me who gambles that they can choose the time and place of an action without that action actually being something I've guided them into and is secretly something happening on MY terms is, I think, taking one risk too far.

This has been a facinating read for me, thank you. Your style of play reminds me of a friend i had who played in a very similar way, very difficult to play against as even when something went wrong he had already planned for it. If you always plan that you will roll a one on the dice you can't ever be beaten by it mentality.

I doubt however he would have ever thought about the various models of military or behavioural patterns that have been mentioned here, that was, for him, simply the natural way his mind worked as far as he would have been concerned.

I quoted the above line as it made me laugh. The last person i can remember talking in a similar way took a swan dive into a reactor core.

[Nemo121]

LTC,

Well, the question that occurs to me is whether or not the swan dive was by his choice. If it wasn't then it was a sad accident. If it was by his choice then my take would be that at least he had control over his way out... which sounds like it may have been important to him.

P.s. Glad you found the thread interesting.

[modrow]

Nemo,

just a short thanks for your detailed response to my post, which I just managed to read. As always, an interesting read (though I am not sure whether Clausewitz actually uses the term, but I may be wrong there).

The interesting part of this is that in my opinion what you describe explicitly is the orient rather than the observe part, the ability to put disparate pieces of information together simultaneously to form a whole picture.

I agree that the decision making is a different process. IF you equate the use of gut feeling to intuition, I think there are some studies that would claim that people acting on intuitive decisions are usually unable to identify the rationale behind their actions, what you are usually able to do.

Speaking of intuition - do you mean to say whereas junior doctors still make good use of intuition and feeling, the senior ones are reduced to sensation and thinking ? Do you think this is caused by a learning process ? Is Jung just for the young ones (pun intented, check your German-English dictionary) ? But I digress...

Anyway, back to the roots - interesting reaction to my post. Thanks a lot.

Hartwig

edited to add bold printed words

[Nemo121]

Hmm, I must have been unclear.... Clausewitz would have called fingerspitzengefuehl by the term "coup d'oeuil" which, in the late 18th and early 19th Century in European warfare had connotations of being able to create a mental image of the terrain from maps and populate that mental image of the terrain ( presumably a faux-3d mental image ) with units in their appropriate relative positions. By so doing commanders were able to position their units advantageously taking into account the delays required for messengers to get their messages to the various units ( which was last properly attempted in that Napoleonic game which walked away from Battlefront a few months ago... they look like they were right to let it go as it appears to not have been close to a stable release ) and the times taken for units to move in order to ensure units got to the right places at the right time ( which I believe they would have referred to as fingerspitzengefuehl).

Over time the terminology has developed so it is always a bit muddy to try to describe things in one era using terminology which didn't develop till later.

I think coup d'oeuil and fingerspitzengefuehl have elements of both Observe and Orient and depending on one's approach they can be a bit more Observe or a bit more Orient. I, for example, may view attritionist battles as fitting into a manoeuvrist doctrine and argue that while the specific battle had an attritionist goal it wasn't fitting into an attritionist strategy and so shouldn't be considered as attritionists. Attritionists would argue that if the battle was attritionist than at least a component of the strategy is attritionist. I think that "on the ground" both things result in the same battle. It is just in the mind of the commander that they are perceived differently. I know that this is still a bit unclear but I think that the whole issue of gut feeling and where subconscious cues and post-hoc rationalisation start and end is such a grey area that it is pretty much useless to try and draw a clear delineation, especially when so much relies on the subjective interpretation and internal biases of the commander - whereby two commanders can describe the same operation in starkly different ways.

Re: Intuition... Agreed. Most of the time if the "intuition" is really just the gestalt of the subconscious awarenesses then it can be very difficult for people who aren't trained to be aware of their subconscious processes to understand the rationale behind their decisions.

Re: Your Jung joke. Let me riposte by pointing out we should be careful not to stereotype those who may be under Jungian influence [:D]. (I'm quite proud of that little wordplay, it's not often you get to make Jungian stereotypes the punchline of a joke. )


I think that young doctors in general ( including psychiatrists ) tend to behave like most of the population in that they often make decisions on the basis of subconscious thought processes, beliefs, projections and transferences without ever being consciously aware of what is happening. More senior psychiatrists who are fully trained are trained to always look at their internal thought processes and external actions in order to recognise what is driving their decision-making. More than that they are trained that if something which isn't evidence-based medicine is driving a decision then they need to scrap that decision and look at it again in a purely evidence-based manner. In the end the goal is the same as the Prussian General Staff.... whose aim was that irrespective of personality and life experience a General Staff officer would react to a given situation in pretty much the same manner as all his other General Staff trained colleagues ( it is a bit of an oversimplification but sufficient for the needs of a net forum discussion ). In an era before instant communications etc this was the best way to ensure that the various commands ( often headed by a titular and incompetent member of the Royal Family ) would behave in mutually supportive manners even if they were having to arrive at their decisions relatively independently. It ensured co-ordination in the absence of communication.
Ideally a senior psychiatrist should make the same diagnosis and prescribe the same medication, psychological treatment etc as another senior psychiatrist 100 miles away ( or, ideally in a different country although that is less certain as they have different "doctrines" in different countries ).


Overall though that's why I have such confidence in analyses I conduct of PBEM opponents ( mostly justified, sometimes not as I do get things wrong frequently - but when I make an error I just make a new hypothesis and test that and over time I hone my hypothesis until it is a closer and closer approximation to how their mind works... never a perfect one but usually pretty good. ) I read all their messages on the forum ( even if that's 1,000 messages ) before I play them and from those messages I don't seek to gleam information about whether they "always go for India" or "always split KB". I look at how they talk, how they respond to others and what they espouse. I also particularly look for the justifications they give for their viewpoints and arguments.

The surface data of what they actually suggest should be done is not the important thing really. What matters is the reasoning they present ( or don't present ) * See Aside 1 at this stage.... That, when checked against their AARs and what they are advising tells me the following:
1. What their inner motivations and thought processes are.
2. How they justify certain strategies to themselves.... While the strategies they adopt may change in response to different circumstances the underlying biases, projections and personal needs which drive their thought processes one way or another don't.
3. Just how aware they are of the impact of their inner, often subconscious, motivations.
4. If they are aware of them do they have the ability to over-rule them.

Anyone who isn't aware of 3 and 4 to some extent ( it doesn't have to be huge, just a basic awareness will suffice ) is pretty much guidable wherever you want them to go once you learn their triggers. If you look at past AARs I often have been able to predict when a base will be hit or when it won't be, shifted numerically inferior forces around "just in time" arriving the day the base was to be hit etc. Most of that is basically learning triggers that the other person doesn't know they have, presenting them the information they require to activate those triggers and then watching them arrive at the decisions ( which arises internally within them ) I wanted them to arrive at to commit the forces where I wanted when I wanted.

It isn't perfect, of course and I'm no telepath but, generally speaking, it works. It works in this game and it works in betting games vs people. Once when I was much younger ( before I qualified as a psychiatrist ) I went to France for two weeks with a whole bunch of guys. We played poker incessantly, drank too much, partied too much, the usual. At the end of my time in France I came back with double the money I'd left with, even after paying for living expenses and travel for the two weeks. Why? This stuff all works perfectly well in poker too. There are a huge number of quasi-psychological books written about "poker tells" which are, as I understand it, physical manifestations of the player's inner psychological state and beliefs. All I'm talking about is seeing a layer deeper to their internal psychological triggers and tells which, just as with the physical tells, they don't realise they have. The main difference, as I see it, is that physical tells in an opponent lock one into a largely reactive posture. You can only react to the information the tell gives you. Knowledge of their subconsious triggers and conscious mental workings ( not perfect knowledge but hypotheses formed over time and trial and error ) allows you to not only be reactive but also proactive, shaping their perception and ensuring they do what you would like them to do.



Aside 1:
A while back someone posted something about how one would play mindgames or seek to lead on an opponent who refused to engage in email conversation. I meant to reply to them but never got around to it. Here's my reply now as I think it may be of some use to some people ( yeah, I'm bored again, no turn in my inbox today and I've been reading about texturing for FAR too long today for a non-technical soul like myself to be comfortable with. It is all in a desperate attempt to avoid having to do some statistics work for an article I'm writing. ).

Not engaging in email replies is an engagement in and of itself. There's a wealth of hypotheses one can form which can be tested for in-game to help shape a profile of the opponent. First question is WHY? Possible answers:
1. They're taciturn and never include any replies to anything in their emails to anyone. This is unlikely.
2. They have taken a conscious decision to avoid mind-games when playing you. More likely.
3. Other stuff which is less likely and I won't go into here.

If the answer is 2 then you have to ask WHY again.
Do they fear mind-games and think they will be overmatched so they decide not to engage in them?
Do they think that by not engaging they're playing mind-games with you and unsettling you?
Does this show that they've studied your AARs and postings and made a psych profile of you? If so from your reading of their posts do you think they have the insight to be right?

Notwithstanding the above do you think that even if they don't reply there's benefit in writing stuff in your mails anyway? That largely depends on whether you think they will attempt to interpret what you write or will have the discipline to discount anything you write without ever reading it. Few people have that discipline.

If faced with such a ploy and if I thought it was a mind-game by the opponent then I would create some victories for his forces in-game and congratulate him on them. Very few people have the discipline to:
a) see this is a gambit to breach their barrier of silence
b) see praise as anything other than warranted, justifiable and genuine.

As such most people will open up and make at least some comment about how their plan came together, or if they wish to appear modest they'll put it down to "some good luck" or they'll comment that your plan was good too and it could have gone either way.

Whatever they reply with will tell you a lot about their view of you as an opponent, their current mental state re: the game and will, most importantly, have cracked the door open for further conversations. Even if they don't reply you'll still have learnt something about them. You'll have learnt they are more disciplined than 99% of people and that must be factored into future planning.

So, even silence tells you a lot.

[DOCUP]

Nemo great AAR!! Thanks for writing it.
I have to agree with you on ur perceptions on young doctors. Especially residents (don't know what they are called in countries other than America), from what I have seen of the many I have been with they subconsciously lean towards how the attending (the one who is working) would act. But theres always a but, there are a few that do there own thing. These few individuals tend to go more by the text book. I don't know how it is in psy (since I work with critical ill/injuried children) I don't have much dealings with the 2 psy drs in my area. The older attending I have worked with all but one have a gut feeling towards some of there patients, most of the time there right. The one that dosen't go by his gut is more of the by the book kinda guy.

So you profile your opponents. Interesting. It has been interesting to be let into your mindset of this game. Your strategic thinking and willingness to accept losses and go on the offensive when most would think the other way is very enlightening. People nowadays are more conservative in nature and would play the wait game instead of taking the fight to the enemy. I could see you walking away from ur buddies with a large wad of cash. Also I can see you playing psyc warfare,but you do it naturally.
Again thanks for the AAR

[Nemo121]

Well, I think in medicine as in any field there's the book and then there's real life. Someone who goes by the book will probably cover most bases but experience teaches you where to differ from the book. With that said I think that no book can teach the rich texture of human interactions and that's particularly noticeable in psychiatry where the junior doctors will often come out of an interview having been completely taken in by a patient who has lied to them ( typically these are personality disorders who lie about their symptoms in order to get a diagnosis of depression and access to medications they like, people lying about post-traumatic stress symptoms because they are pursuing litigation and want to get a bigger settlement, people with secret addictions who wish to get the stuff they're addicted to prescribed them as treatment for the illness they're faking ) while the more senior doctor will immediately see what's going on. That isn't so much an issue of perception though as just greater experience leading one to look for the hidden agenda and recognise the patterns of presentation which presage certain underlying, hidden motivations.

I would be very much a "go by the gut" type as I think that "the gut" is a synthesis of subconscious signs and subconscious pattern recognition. The trick is, I think, to examine your gut feeling and make sure that what you're reacting to is professional and not just thinking this patient is full of sh*t because she reminds you, subconsciously, of an ex or something like that ( that might seem like a weird example but in the world of the subconscious the weird and extreme tends to be rather mundane and common ).

Going on the offensive: Well, if you look at this game my navy is inferior and outnumbered in a number of areas, my air force is both outnumbered and inferior and my armies are most definitely inferior and also begin the game very poorly dispositioned. That makes a defence very difficult but if I can choose the time and place of coming together in combat it allows me to minimise those disadvantages and achieve concentrations of force against his less defended areas. So, conversely, it is actually easier to be on the offensive ( strategically speaking although not necessarily operationally or tactically ) than it is to rest on the strategic defensive. So that's what I've done and since wresting the initiative from my opponent I have not really been strategically troubled at all - which has made my game much easier. Since I think the strategic layer is by far the most important I am willing to accept operational and tactical disadvantages in order to gain a strategic advantage.

I'm glad you have enjoyed the AAR, that's one of the reasons I write it after all.


Question for the gallery:
Does anyone know which skill port attacks use? Would it be naval bombing or ground attack?


I'm beginning to firm up my plan for the invasion of Malaysia and am considering a massive port attack on Singapore a couple of days before my fleet arrives into view off Malaysia with a view to crippling his local surface combat forces and ensuring none of his local forces can intervene with my invasion TFs as they are vulnerable and unloading. The idea would be to build up Djambi to a Level 3 airfield and sweep Singers with 150 fighters before sending in the medium bombers ( some 250 ) from Palembang and the heavy bombers ( about 60 B-17s and another 100 or so long-range medium bombers ) from Lahat. I could also look into accompanying the raids with dive-bomber strikes from Djambi if I can make Djambi a Level 4 airfield in time ( I'm bringing 200 engineer equivalents into Djambi to build it up quickly ). In addition I'm running 3 different photo-recon squadrons over Singers daily and can spot 14 units, about 100 fighters and 30 to 40 ships in port.

I won't be launching this raid for another month or so but it would certainly be nice to use the intervening month to train my guys in the required skill.

[Grfin Zeppelin]

Port attacks use the ground attack skill. Being a roleplayer I found out very quickly what kind of skill is used for an action [:)]

[traskott]

Side note: Your DDs your are using as a bait 'cause their upgrades are horrible, are Clemson Class. If you upgrade them to DE (4/42) IF you don't upgrade them at 2/42, turn them onto VERY good DE. They will be plainly HORRIBLE at surface actions, but will excel at ASW, and will be a bit better at AAA. .

Good luck !!!

[Nemo121]

Thanks Graefin, traskott.

Damn, I have to retask a lot of my bombers to ground attack now. Ah well there weren't a lot of ships coming my way anyways....


Traskott,
Hmm, so if they upgrade now they turn into good DEs but they get even worse at surface combat. Well, I suppose I could just use them as CV escorts and suchlike if their AAA and ASW are good enough and they maintain their speed after the ugprades.

[traskott]

Well, I use to employ them as convoy escorts, but as ASW cover of CVs sounds good too ( they get enhanced range ).

If u like DMSs, you can turn Clemson at DMS too ( in fact they can be turned at: APD, DM, DMS, AVD or DE : Plenty of choices!! ).

[modrow]

Nemo,

very briefly: again very nice reply and nice riposte, thanks.

Now, to something completely different: If you want to achieve some fast transport capacities, the Clemson class DDs should be turned into APD - I think this is one of the few ways to gain fast transport capacity as Allies relatively early on. If some AFB out there knows another way, please share !

Thanks again

Hartwig

[traskott]

If you want APDs, use the Wickes class, which can be converted early 2 or 3 at 1942 [:)]. Clemson are too much valuable as your main ship with conversion capability. Think deeply prior to make them APDs.

[Nemo121]

I looked into the issue of APDs in Admiral's Edition and it really doesn't look to me like it is worth it anymore for mounting invasions due to the massive fatigue they build up. They still have some utility in transporting troops to a friendly base when you can't get merchant ships through but in those circumstances you are almost always better off using flying boats or transports to do the job. They have greater strategic mobility, faster reaction times, are less amenable to interception and can better utilise a central position ( an important consideration when you are on the defensive and are, presumably, trying to rush a reserve to a threatened sector).


Traskott,
I like DMS but I guard them zealously. I'd more readily lose a CA than a DMS. So far in the war not a single one of my DMS has been scratched and, if I have anything to do with it, that's the way it'll remain. I'm going to risk a few of them in the bombardment TF for Truk but that's pretty much a milk run these days now that Mike has pulled KB back into his interior for some rest and refitting - or whatever it is those boys are up to.


Not much happened today except that I decide to divert the convoy carrying 3 Bdes of British troops, engineers and a Base Force to southern Sumatra to Northern Sumatra where they will bolster the Dutch defenders at Medan ( or farther up the coast if my Dutch troops have to retreat to there).

[traskott]

Hummm..To amphibious assault dunno, but to bring troops at combat mode to islands near the enemy the excels. Besides, as they looks like DDs, enemy recce can be tricked about the goal of the T.F.

Whatever. Is your choice. [;)].

Oh !! By the way, I was the man who had asked about the "opponent who doesn't speak anything". Truly fascinating answer. Hummm..If someday I play against you, Nemo, remember me to DELETE all my posts !! [8|][8|]

[Nemo121]

Well, Mike has developed a nice, comfortable habit of sending support TFs out and bringing in merchant convoys the night after I launch a night raid. I decided, yesterday, to make him pay for that and so sent the CL TF which was retreating from Singers ( and had refueled at Palembang ) back in for more. It had over 95% of its ammo remaining so I was confident it would give a good account of itself.

In the end when it ran into 2 IJN CLs and 3 DDs it didn't do great, just causing significant fires on a single IJN DD but, later, when it found a minelaying TF it redeemed itself by sinking the lot of them. It made it back to Palembang and is refuelled and re-armed, although it only has 50% or so of its torpedoes. I have decided that the success of these raiding TFs operating out of Palembang is sufficient that I'm going to create 3 more, 2 x CL-led TFs comprising 2 x CL and 4 or so DD and a single CA-led TF comprising a CA and 4 or 5 DDs.

My current thinking is to use these raiding TFs for three purposes:
1. To mount nightly raids into the environs of Singapore forcing Mike to either commit significant naval forces to the mission of defending Singapore - at which point my raiding TFs will meet them in battle and damage or sink them ( while being damaged or sunk themselves). This will serve the purpose of attritting the IJN forces in the region in preparation for my landings in Malaysia - which is my new strategic priority.

2. Tempt Mike into a major IJNAF and IJAAF assault on Palembang in order to strike at the base ( and support ships - ADs etc ) of these raiding flotillas with a view to catching many of them at Palembang and sinking them. If he is really serious about this he'll commit KB to the mission, which I'd welcome as I want to attrit KB a little more to give myself freedom of movement in the Mindanao region.

3. He could decide to counter it by bringing BBs and CAs into Singapore, which would put them within torpedo-bomber range of Djambi, which I'm currently working feverishly to expand and would, I think, effectively sign the death warrant of any CAs or BBs committed as I WOULD get torpedo-bombers through to them. It might cost me 200 planes but I WOULD get them.... and in so doing he'd move from having lost 4 BBs out of 10 and 5 CAs out of about 12 to having lost the majority of each category, which wouldn't be good as my forces are only getting stronger and stronger.


AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Apr 07, 42
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Night Time Surface Combat, near Singapore at 50,84, Range 7,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
CL Sendai
CL Kinu, Shell hits 1
DD Hagikaze, Shell hits 2, on fire
DD Sagiri

Allied Ships
CL Marblehead, Shell hits 1
DD Dunlap
DD Fanning, Shell hits 1
DD Barker
DD Bulmer
DD Edsall
DD Parrott, Shell hits 2
DD Whipple, Shell hits 1
DD Stewart





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Night Time Surface Combat, near Singapore at 50,84, Range 8,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
ACM Banshu Maru #52, Shell hits 2, and is sunk
ACM Ranzan Maru, Shell hits 2, and is sunk
ACM Chiyo Maru, Shell hits 16, and is sunk
ACM Muro Maru, Shell hits 10, and is sunk
CM Kamome, Shell hits 11, and is sunk

Not a bad haul.

In other interesting news my intel keeps insisting that the CA Chokai sank after the last night battle where my 2 USN BBs ran into Singapore for a night battle with the IJN defenders.


Allied Ships
CL Marblehead
DD Dunlap
DD Fanning
DD Barker
DD Bulmer, Shell hits 1
DD Edsall
DD Parrott
DD Whipple
DD Stewart


Maximum visibility in Overcast Conditions and 60% moonlight: 8,000 yards
Range closes to 11,000 yards...
Range closes to 10,000 yards...
Range closes to 9,000 yards...
Range closes to 8,000 yards...
CONTACT: Japanese lookouts spot Allied task force at 8,000 yards
CONTACT: Allied lookouts spot Japanese task force at 8,000 yards
English, Robert H. crosses the 'T'

I spent the PP on good admirals and it looks like it pays off. I am routinely crossing the Ts of the IJN forces I run into at night.



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ASW attack near Toboali at 51,94

Japanese Ships
SS I-158, hits 1

Allied Ships
DD Lamson
DD Drayton
DD Mahan
DD Flusser
DD Conyngham
DD Case




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Submarine attack near Makassar at 63,107

Japanese Ships
SS I-154

Allied Ships
TK Esso Durban

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ASW attack near Hengchun at 85,68

Japanese Ships
DD Tachikaze

Allied Ships
SS Spearfish

I think this is KB transitting Formosa on its way into the DEI region. I'm not sure but that's my current estimate. I'll find out soon enough I suppose.

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Morning Air attack on 201st(Sep) Infantry Regiment, at 136,48 (Onnekotan-jima)

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 11 NM, estimated altitude 17,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 3 minutes

Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty x 21



Japanese aircraft losses
G4M1 Betty: 1 damaged


Allied ground losses:
42 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 3 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled


Aircraft Attacking:
21 x G4M1 Betty bombing from 15000 feet
Ground Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb



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Morning Air attack on Medan Coastal Gun Battalion, at 46,76 (Medan)

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid spotted at 31 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 8 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-30 Ann x 27
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 1



Allied aircraft
Hurricane IIb Trop x 1
P-40E Warhawk x 1
P-39D Airacobra x 1
P-40E Warhawk x 1

These Allied planes don't have the legs to reach Djambi from Sabang so are moving back into Medan and flying out to Djambi the next day. I won't try to re-institute a CAP over Medan until I've done something about the IJAAF bombers in the area.

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-30 Ann: 1 destroyed


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Morning Air attack on Medan , at 46,76

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid spotted at 42 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 14 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 27



Allied aircraft
Hurricane IIb Trop x 1
P-40E Warhawk x 1
P-39D Airacobra x 1
P-40E Warhawk x 1


No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
Hurricane IIb Trop: 1 destroyed
P-40E Warhawk: 1 destroyed

As the defenders are only small packets of squadrons they don't perform well in the air. Still, better to die in the air than on the ground. I'm hustling them through as quickly as possible though. These losses are akin to a "toll" for moving through Medan.


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Morning Air attack on Singapore , at 50,84

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid spotted at 14 NM, estimated altitude 8,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes

I wanted to test just how effective a low-level raid into Singapore harbour might be but I didn't want to tip Mike off that I am checking the ground for a raid early next month so I decided to send only a small number of B-17s in and act as though it was an error following transfer from a different theatre.

And, yeah, if you think that such conduct is unfair then you have the right to think so and the right to decide never to play me. I may not be doing any major subterfuges but if one little white lie is going to prevent him catching on to a major multi-hundred bomber attack then I'm quite prepared to sell him the dummy.

Japanese aircraft
no flights


Allied aircraft
Martlet II x 4
B-17D Fortress x 6
B-17E Fortress x 6


Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21-Ic Sally: 3 destroyed on ground
G4M1 Betty: 1 destroyed on ground
G3M2 Nell: 1 destroyed on ground

In the end 8 IJAAF and IJNAF planes were destroyed on the ground and all my B-17s made it home. This is highly encouraging and confirms that the tentative plan could work out really well.

Allied aircraft losses
B-17D Fortress: 6 damaged
B-17E Fortress: 4 damaged

Japanese Ships
xAP Buenos Aires Maru
xAP Baikal Maru

Japanese ground losses:
5 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled

Airbase hits 10
Airbase supply hits 3
Runway hits 14

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Morning Air attack on Kwajalein Island , at 132,115

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid spotted at 37 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 8 minutes


Allied aircraft
A-20A Havoc x 9
P-400 Airacobra x 15


Allied aircraft losses
A-20A Havoc: 4 damaged



Runway hits 1

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Morning Air attack on Kwajalein Island , at 132,115

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid spotted at 44 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 17 minutes


Allied aircraft
A-20A Havoc x 3
B-18A Bolo x 3


No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
SSX Ha-13, Bomb hits 1, and is sunk
SSX Ha-12, Bomb hits 1, heavy damage

More of these blasted midget submarines. Honestly, it is as though they are endless.

Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 2
Port hits 1


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Morning Air attack on Medan , at 46,76

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid spotted at 18 NM, estimated altitude 19,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-IIa Sally x 25



Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21-IIa Sally: 1 damaged



Runway hits 2

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This was great news. The IJN is trying to reinforce the troops he landed in Mindanao a few days ago. In so doing it gave K-XIII the perfect shot though and in two salvoes of two torpedoes each, which were resolved separately, not something I've seen before, it sank the IJN CL Tama.

Sub attack near Oroquieta at 78,88

Japanese Ships
CL Tama, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
xAP Kongo Maru
xAP Kitano Maru
xAK Asosan Maru
DD Sanae

Allied Ships
SS KXIII



SS KXIII launches 4 torpedoes at CL Tama
KXIII bottoming out ....
DD Sanae fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Sanae fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Sanae fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Sanae fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Sanae fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

Since I have re-occupied Manado and re-taken Talaud, which were the previous outpost line for the Southern DEI, I am now extending that outpost line to Badeldoab and Mindanao. As such this invasion has tripped my outpost line and must be met with a firm response in order to slow any further encroachment. Accordingly I have sent the USN CA-led TF ( 2 CAs and 3 or 4 DDs ) guarding Manado/Talaud north to Oroquieta - they will arrive during daylight hours tomorrow and should, I hope, be able to sink quite a few xAPs at anchor before they have unloaded. In addition I've sent 40 fighters and about 40 A-24 Banshees to Cagayan where they will fly against this convoy also and seek to destroy it. Between the naval force and the airforce I expect this reinforcement convoy to be wiped out tomorrow.

This will force him to escort future convoys more carefully and put him on notice that he needs to begin posting SC TFs at Jolo and Badeldoab if he wants to prevent me running surface raiders north and east of Manado. It will also put him on notice that the southern Borneon oil producing base he took ( the one east of Balikpapan but west of Jolo, I can't remember the name right now ) is closed for future tanker convoys unless he is willing to heavily escort them with SC TFs and LRCAP.

Again, this has the effect of making him react to me and spread his forces defensively which, in the long run, gives me the initiative and more opportunities to find weak spots to hit. In the end this causes a feedback loop where hitting something makes him spread his forces to defend more, which forces him to defend each thing more weakly, which gives me more opportunities for hit and run raids, which causes him to have to defend more and more, which spreads him ever more thinly and so on and so forth.

What he should do is either just abandon Southern Borneo and accept that Badeldoab and Jolo require SC TFs protected by strong CAP or he should bring KB to bear and just rampage through the southern DEI destroying my air and naval forces in the region in detail and using KB to nullify this strategic threat. This is what I mean when I talk about KB as a strategic weapon. It can achieve strategically decisive results and shouldn't be frittered away in operations of tactical or, at best, operational value.

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Ground combat at Talaud-eilanden (79,97)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 1042 troops, 16 guns, 75 vehicles, Assault Value = 50

Defending force 296 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 12

Allied adjusted assault: 17

Japanese adjusted defense: 1

Allied assault odds: 17 to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(-), disruption(-), preparation(-)
Attacker: fatigue(-), morale(-)

Japanese ground losses:
40 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Just gaining experience. Lots of engineers and a few more tank units are on the way. Once everyone gains a bit of experience here I plan to ship them to Malaysia where my tank forces can run riot a little.



Assaulting units:
2/10th Armoured Regiment
3rd Motor Brigade

Defending units:
1st Indpt SNLF Coy


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Ground combat at Kanhsien (81,57)

Allied Shock attack

Attacking force 8568 troops, 38 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 324

Defending force 2804 troops, 31 guns, 14 vehicles, Assault Value = 99

This was a shock attack across a river against an IJA-held base. The base was held by forces my other Chinese armies had forced to fall back on about 3 previous occasions so they were hardly likely to put up much resistance... and in the end they didn't.

Allied adjusted assault: 245

Japanese adjusted defense: 20

Allied assault odds: 12 to 1 (fort level 0)

Allied forces CAPTURE Kanhsien !!!

Combat modifiers
Defender: op mode(-), preparation(-), experience(-)
Attacker: shock(+), leaders(+), leaders(-)

Japanese ground losses:
817 casualties reported
Squads: 26 destroyed, 4 disabled
Non Combat: 28 destroyed, 3 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 7 (7 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Vehicles lost 16 (16 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Units retreated 2

Another 77 squads and vehicles destroyed. Every bit helps.

Allied ground losses:
21 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Defeated Japanese Units Retreating!

Assaulting units:
73rd Chinese Corps

Defending units:
8th Armored Car Co
102nd Infantry Regiment


In other news, in about a week the relief forces for Northern Sumatra will begin landing there. Given one week it will hold. The question is can I prevent him reinforcing northern sumatra long enough to buy that week.

In order to help buy that time I am ordering the CL-TF back into Singapore and am bringing the other two CL-led TFs into action in 3 and 4 nights respectively. With a little luck that ought to be enough to button him up until I can get enough boots on the ground.

Elsewhere more and more US troops are beginning to filter into the southern DEI. In about a week's time a full division's worth of marines and armour will be online and ready to attack. Well they would be except some weird bug has reduced the 8th Marine Regt to just 51% strength despite the fact it was 100% before it began unloading. WEIRD !!! I have just turned replacements on though and will pretend a sub got the rest of them. If the bug isn't a game-killer or very imbalancing I tend not to bother too much about it. It is just an extra challenge to beat in order to achieve my strategic goals.

Umm, that's really about it. Nothing too exciting except the raiding TFs should happen over the next two days.

[Nemo121]

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Apr 08, 42

A good day for the Allies. Palembang held out against a maximal IJAAF fighter assault and it looks like I drowned a few thousand Japanese troops as well as removing another two CLs from the enemy forces in the DEI.

So that's 4 BBs, 5 CAs, 4 CLs and 27 DD sunk so far.

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Night Time Surface Combat, near Singapore at 50,84, Range 8,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
CL Sendai, Shell hits 2, heavy fires
CL Kinu
DD Hagikaze
DD Sagiri

The two hits on Sendai were both penetrating 6 inch hits which punched through the belt armour and exploded internally causing serious fires. Sendai will have to put into port at Singapore and spend some time being repaired. The fact that I don't find heavier forces here tonight tells me there are no heavier forces available and undamaged at Singapore. If he had them he'd commit them. In a few days that will change but for right now this is it.

Allied Ships
CL Marblehead, Shell hits 2
DD Dunlap
DD Fanning
DD Barker
DD Bulmer
DD Edsall
DD Parrott
DD Whipple
DD Stewart

Maximum visibility in Overcast Conditions and 50% moonlight: 8,000 yards
Range closes to 10,000 yards...
Range closes to 8,000 yards...
CONTACT: Japanese lookouts spot Allied task force at 8,000 yards
CONTACT: Allied lookouts spot Japanese task force at 8,000 yards
English, Robert H. crosses the 'T'
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Sub attack near Oroquieta at 78,88

Japanese Ships
xAP Kongo Maru, Torpedo hits 3, heavy damage
xAK Nako Maru
DD Sanae

Allied Ships
SS KXIII

Japanese ground losses:
18 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 2 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

SS KXIII launches 4 torpedoes at xAP Kongo Maru
KXIII bottoming out ....

A CL and an xAK within 48 hours. Not bad going.


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ASW attack near Singapore at 50,84

Japanese Ships
DD Sagiri

Allied Ships
SS Shark

I'm keeping a lot of subs around Singapore and Singkawang in an effort to torpedo cripples seeking to transit these areas back towards Manilla or Hong Kong for repair.

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Sub attack near Taihoku at 87,62

Japanese Ships
PB Shinko Maru #2
DD Shirakumo

Allied Ships
SS Swordfish



SS Swordfish launches 4 torpedoes at PB Shinko Maru #2
Swordfish diving deep ....
DD Shirakumo fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Shirakumo fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Shirakumo fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Shirakumo fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Shirakumo fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub


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ASW attack near Hengchun at 85,68

Japanese Ships
DD Tachikaze

Allied Ships
SS Spearfish, hits 2

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Day Time Surface Combat, near Oroquieta at 78,88, Range 26,000 Yards

It turns out I didn't need the Banshees at all.

Japanese Ships
CL Oi, Shell hits 41, and is sunk
DD Sanae, Shell hits 12, and is sunk
PB Shosei Maru, Shell hits 14, and is sunk
xAK Asosan Maru, Shell hits 20, and is sunk
xAK Asakasan Maru, Shell hits 14, and is sunk
xAK Kinugawa Maru, Shell hits 26, and is sunk
xAK Nako Maru, Shell hits 7, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
xAP Kitano Maru, Shell hits 3, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk

Allied Ships
CA Portland, Shell hits 1
CA Minneapolis, Shell hits 3
DD Mugford
DD Jarvis, Shell hits 1
DD Downes

Japanese ground losses:
2439 casualties reported
Squads: 21 destroyed, 14 disabled
Non Combat: 257 destroyed, 372 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Vehicles lost 36 (23 destroyed, 13 disabled)

It looks to me like I must have destroyed a couple of Base Forces or Aviation/Army HQs. The lack of engineers dead argues against these being pure Base Forces so, perhaps they were HQs? Who knows. Either way 301 squads destroyed and 399 disabled is a great tally for my forces. I'll run them back to Manado at full speed and then transition them to a larger base for repair.

Lest we get too focussed on the xAKs and xAPs let us look at the escorts also. Counting the CL Tama yesterday this TF was escorted by TWO CL, a PB and a DD. Just a month or two ago this would only have been escorted by a PB or possibly a PB and DD. I think I'm getting him to commit a lot more of his surface forces as convoy escorts. This is forcing him to penny-packet out his forces and is allowing me to defeat them in detail whenever they stick their snouts out too far.

Personally I think he should just create hunter-killer groups and shoal them out ahead of his convoys or else just commit KB but, hell, if he's making a mistake I'm willing to let him.


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Morning Air attack on Palembang , at 48,91

Mike tried to close Palembang with sweeps today. I had my forces on 40% training and 40% CAP so while the CAP wasn't amazing it was more than enough.

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid spotted at 31 NM, estimated altitude 20,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ia Oscar x 42



Allied aircraft
H81-A3 x 11
Fulmar II x 5
Martlet II x 3
Hurricane I Trop x 6
Hurricane IIa Trop x 12
Hurricane IIb Trop x 2
P-39D Airacobra x 15
P-40E Warhawk x 28

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-43-Ia Oscar: 2 destroyed

Oscar losses will actually be much higher as many of the Oscars were damaged and will become operational losses.

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Morning Air attack on Palembang , at 48,91

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid spotted at 34 NM, estimated altitude 19,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 21

Allied aircraft
H81-A3 x 9
Fulmar II x 2
Martlet II x 3
Hurricane I Trop x 4
Hurricane IIa Trop x 10
Hurricane IIb Trop x 1
P-39D Airacobra x 12
P-40E Warhawk x 20


Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-43-Ic Oscar: 2 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Fulmar II: 1 destroyed
Hurricane IIa Trop: 1 destroyed
P-39D Airacobra: 1 destroyed
P-40E Warhawk: 1 destroyed

While only 2 Oscars are shown as having been downed fully 19 of the 21 took battle damage so out of the remaining 17 I'm expecting several won't make it home. This round was a draw.


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Morning Air attack on Palembang , at 48,91

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid spotted at 41 NM, estimated altitude 20,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 18



Allied aircraft
H81-A3 x 8
Martlet II x 2
Hurricane I Trop x 3
Hurricane IIa Trop x 4
P-39D Airacobra x 5
P-40E Warhawk x 12


Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 1 destroyed

Not a single A6M2 got through. Again, several additional Zeroes should be ditched on the way home.

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Morning Air attack on 201st(Sep) Infantry Regiment, at 136,48 (Onnekotan-jima)

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid spotted at 38 NM, estimated altitude 18,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes

Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty x 22



No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
3 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled


Aircraft Attacking:
22 x G4M1 Betty bombing from 15000 feet
Ground Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb

Also attacking 1st Marine Raider Battalion ...
Also attacking 201st(Sep) Infantry Regiment ...


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Morning Air attack on Palembang , at 48,91

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid spotted at 48 NM, estimated altitude 20,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 16 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 42



Allied aircraft
H81-A3 x 8
Martlet II x 2
Hurricane I Trop x 2
Hurricane IIa Trop x 3
P-39D Airacobra x 5
P-40E Warhawk x 9


No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
H81-A3: 1 destroyed
P-39D Airacobra: 1 destroyed
P-40E Warhawk: 3 destroyed

Fatigue really hurt my pilots this time with 5 of my planes being destroyed. None of the Oscars were able to sweep my base which, again, tells the tale of many of them being damaged and forced to turn for home but this round definitely went to the less fatigued Japanese.


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Morning Air attack on Medan , at 46,76

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid spotted at 43 NM, estimated altitude 17,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 14 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 10



Allied aircraft
Martlet II x 1
P-40E Warhawk x 5


No Japanese losses

No Allied losses

Here are the Allied planes being repaired at Medan before flying on to southern Sumatra. They fight in order to keep the service damage down so more of their brethren can be repaired.

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Morning Air attack on 18th Chinese Corps, at 85,50 (Hankow)

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid spotted at 31 NM, estimated altitude 6,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 9 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-27b Nate x 2
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 3



No Japanese losses



Aircraft Attacking:
1 x Ki-27b Nate bombing from 100 feet
3 x Ki-43-Ic Oscar bombing from 100 feet
1 x Ki-27b Nate bombing from 100 feet

Also attacking 94th Chinese Corps ...


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Morning Air attack on Medan , at 46,76

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid spotted at 24 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 8 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 20



Allied aircraft
Martlet II x 1


No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
Martlet II: 1 destroyed


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Morning Air attack on 8th Chinese Corps, at 85,50 (Hankow)

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid spotted at 43 NM, estimated altitude 8,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-48-Ib Lily x 11



No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
3 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled


Aircraft Attacking:
11 x Ki-48-Ib Lily bombing from 5000 feet *
Ground Attack: 2 x 100 kg GP Bomb

Also attacking 53rd Chinese Corps ...
Also attacking 8th Chinese Corps ...


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Morning Air attack on Canton Special Base Force, at 77,59 (Canton)

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid spotted at 30 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 9 minutes


Allied aircraft
A-29A Hudson x 3
SB-III x 6


Allied aircraft losses
A-29A Hudson: 1 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
12 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled



Aircraft Attacking:
3 x A-29A Hudson bombing from 9000 feet *
Ground Attack: 2 x 250 lb GP Bomb
2 x SB-III bombing from 9000 feet *
Ground Attack: 3 x 100 kg GP Bomb
4 x SB-III bombing from 9000 feet *
Ground Attack: 3 x 100 kg GP Bomb



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Morning Air attack on Kwajalein Island , at 132,115

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid spotted at 42 NM, estimated altitude 8,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 9 minutes


Allied aircraft
A-20A Havoc x 9
P-400 Airacobra x 15


Allied aircraft losses
A-20A Havoc: 3 damaged



Airbase hits 1
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 9

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x A-20A Havoc bombing from 6000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 500 lb GP Bomb



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Morning Air attack on Kwajalein Island , at 132,115

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid spotted at 19 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 7 minutes


Allied aircraft
A-20A Havoc x 3
B-18A Bolo x 3


No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
SSX Ha-8, Bomb hits 1, heavy damage

Runway hits 2


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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Tandjoengselor at 68,92

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid spotted at 29 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 8 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 12


Allied aircraft
B-26 Marauder x 3


No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
B-26 Marauder: 1 destroyed

Hmm, a tanker convoy at Tarakan? I'm not sure.


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Afternoon Air attack on Medan , at 46,76

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 11 NM, estimated altitude 17,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 3 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-IIa Sally x 25
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 21



Allied aircraft
Martlet II x 1
P-40E Warhawk x 4


Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21-IIa Sally: 1 destroyed, 4 damaged


Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 11



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Ground combat at Talaud-eilanden (79,97)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 1138 troops, 16 guns, 79 vehicles, Assault Value = 193

Defending force 277 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 11

Allied adjusted assault: 22

Japanese adjusted defense: 1

Allied assault odds: 22 to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), disruption(-), preparation(-), fatigue(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
21 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled


Allied ground losses:
7 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled


Assaulting units:
2/10th Armoured Regiment
754th Tank Bn /1
1st Motor Bde /3
3rd Motor Brigade
19th Australian Bn /1

Note the reinforcements streaming ashore.

Defending units:
1st Indpt SNLF Coy


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Ground combat at 86,42

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 24728 troops, 110 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 954

Defending force 30617 troops, 254 guns, 32 vehicles, Assault Value = 1073


Allied ground losses:
9 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled


Assaulting units:
43rd Chinese Corps
93rd Chinese Corps
5th New Chinese Corps
15th Chinese Corps
27th Chinese Corps
9th Chinese Corps
8th New Chinese Corps
14th Group Army
15th Group Army

Defending units:
35th Division
3rd Ind.Mixed Brigade
11th Division