Will it be better than Combat Mission

Panzer Command: Ostfront is the latest in a new series of 3D turn-based tactical wargames which include single battles, multi-battle operations and full war campaigns with realistic units, tactics and terrain and an informative and practical interface. Including a full Map Editor, 60+ Scenarios, 10 Campaigns and a very long list of improvements, this is the ultimate Panzer Command release for the Eastern Front!

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Please chill out, everyone. What Stridor said represents the thinking of the Panzer Command team, as I've also said many times on many threads. There is room for both games. Compare and contrast constructively is fine, but there's no need for the rest.

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Good to hear, JMass, the Pz IV series do need some extra attention. Could you show some of your progress perhaps?

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JMass, that bow looks already much better. Good job! Will you also give the texture some more structure? It looks rather smooth.
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I would like to see some of the old CMBB scenarios reproduced in PCO just to see if they are comparable.
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I would like to see some of the old CMBB scenarios reproduced in PCO just to see if they are comparable.

Well, there you go. That'll give you a project to see if some of your favorite CM scenarios will transfer.

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I can't find my cmbb cdrom.  I will leave it up to a scenario artist like yourself.
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Some of mine may already be converted.

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I will buy both[:D] Unlike Germany, I can fight in the East and West at the same time [:'(]

Shock Force will be gone when the new Normandy game comes out and is game will replace CMBB (RIP) when the update hits
Shock Force is ok, but WWII is my cup of tea [&o]
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Shock Force was horrible can't wait for PC:Osfront.
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No bashing please - if you criticize a title, make it constructive criticism and back up your comments and explain your opinion.

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Shock Force was horrible can't wait for PC:Osfront.

Shock Force was "buggy" when first released, but over time BF has done a great job with it.
IMHO - With the weapon systems of today, the SF modern game map sizes are way to small. War involves killing and breaking the other sides "toys" first, but with SF it's a "killing field". Plus the theater involved is very boring.
I think they should have went to Europe or some other place where NATO and Soviet armies could slug it out with a more balanced weapon systems. M1's vs a Toyota truck may be real life, but M1's vs T-90's, Mi24's, Su-27's and A-10's would have ROCKED!!! China or Korea would have been good too. But overall, it's a way better game today then D +1 release day.

SF is only leaving my computer for a WWII game, not because it's a bad game. I bought it in hopes of a WWII version and years later - it's coming[:D]

I am a WWII junkie. I have TOW2 and a few other Russian based games.

To be honest, I never know Panzer Command existed. It could be me, but it seems like the PR and main stream sim outlets didn't really push it. Again, it could just be me.[:)] I found Ostfront on Youtube one night and here I am[:D] I was looking for a replacement for CMBB and I think I found it. The game engine and rules may be different, by it's Eastern Front and I am love it!

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JMass, that bow looks already much better. Good job! Will you also give the texture some more structure? It looks rather smooth.

I was poking around my old computer looking for some CM files and found a JackoBO4AK with some maps in it. You must have used the Map Convertor to do some maps for me back in those days.

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I was poking around my old computer looking for some CM files and found a JackoBO4AK with some maps in it. You must have used the Map Convertor to do some maps for me back in those days.

Maybe I can repay you with PCO someday.

Well, if my memory serves me correctly it was the other way around. You were so kind to convert a number of maps for me from CMBO into CMAK. Hence the name of your file probably.
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I would like to see some of the old CMBB scenarios reproduced in PCO just to see if they are comparable.

There is a direct comparison of the two games published in this journal:

http://www.lulu.com/product/paperback/t ... -1/6538005

It was also discussed in a thread on this forum IIRC.

It would depend on your definition of "comparable". The games "complement" each other rather than compete, in my opinion, just as the "new" game engine for CM will not be competition for Panzer Command in the least. As pointed out, if you are a fan of the genre, you will probably be interested in multiple approaches to it. CMX2 is going to be very different from CMX1, which is different again from PzC - all of which complement each other.
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Gamesquad does have a CM forum which is more neutral ground than BFC or Matrix forums.

I agree, but I've never thought the forums here at Matrix were particularly biased either to be honest. Just slow sometimes to ban disruptive posters.
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I would like to see some of the old CMBB scenarios reproduced in PCO just to see if they are comparable.

There is a direct comparison of the two games published in this journal:

http://www.lulu.com/product/paperback/t ... -1/6538005

It was also discussed in a thread on this forum IIRC.

It would depend on your definition of "comparable". The games "complement" each other rather than compete, in my opinion, just as the "new" game engine for CM will not be competition for Panzer Command in the least. As pointed out, if you are a fan of the genre, you will probably be interested in multiple approaches to it. CMX2 is going to be very different from CMX1, which is different again from PzC - all of which complement each other.

I look forward to you guys getting the final version and doing it again. Good, bad or otherwise.
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ORIGINAL: Michael Dorosh

ORIGINAL:

I would like to see some of the old CMBB scenarios reproduced in PCO just to see if they are comparable.

There is a direct comparison of the two games published in this journal:

http://www.lulu.com/product/paperback/t ... -1/6538005

It was also discussed in a thread on this forum IIRC.

It would depend on your definition of "comparable". The games "complement" each other rather than compete, in my opinion, just as the "new" game engine for CM will not be competition for Panzer Command in the least. As pointed out, if you are a fan of the genre, you will probably be interested in multiple approaches to it. CMX2 is going to be very different from CMX1, which is different again from PzC - all of which complement each other.

I had forgotten that you put my article on the Red Army tank units in your journal. I hope it sells well for you.

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I don't understand...is he the author?  He is 'selling' that here?  Why doesn't he identify himself as the author in his post? 
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Has anyone done any Squad Leader scenarios for Panzer Command? If so where are they?
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I don't understand...is he the author?  He is 'selling' that here?  Why doesn't he identify himself as the author in his post? 

The game looks really cool, Lewis.

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