Will it be better than Combat Mission
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- Erik Rutins
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RE: Will it be better than Combat Mission
Please chill out, everyone. What Stridor said represents the thinking of the Panzer Command team, as I've also said many times on many threads. There is room for both games. Compare and contrast constructively is fine, but there's no need for the rest.
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RE: Will it be better than Combat Mission
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Good to hear, JMass, the Pz IV series do need some extra attention. Could you show some of your progress perhaps?
Here's a screenshot taken during a test, I need to work a bit on the model but the main work is on the new skins, both winter and summer, at the moment I suspended it to improve some Pz IIIs.

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RE: Will it be better than Combat Mission
JMass, that bow looks already much better. Good job! Will you also give the texture some more structure? It looks rather smooth.
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RE: Will it be better than Combat Mission
I would like to see some of the old CMBB scenarios reproduced in PCO just to see if they are comparable.
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RE: Will it be better than Combat Mission
ORIGINAL: Yoozername
I would like to see some of the old CMBB scenarios reproduced in PCO just to see if they are comparable.
Well, there you go. That'll give you a project to see if some of your favorite CM scenarios will transfer.
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MR
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Founder of HSG scenario design group for Combat Mission.
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Flashpoint Campaigns: Red Storm Development Team.
Founder of HSG scenario design group for Combat Mission.
Panzer Command Ostfront Development Team.
Flashpoint Campaigns: Red Storm Development Team.
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Yoozername
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RE: Will it be better than Combat Mission
I can't find my cmbb cdrom. I will leave it up to a scenario artist like yourself.
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RE: Will it be better than Combat Mission
Some of mine may already be converted.
Good Hunting.
MR
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MR
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Founder of HSG scenario design group for Combat Mission.
Panzer Command Ostfront Development Team.
Flashpoint Campaigns: Red Storm Development Team.
Founder of HSG scenario design group for Combat Mission.
Panzer Command Ostfront Development Team.
Flashpoint Campaigns: Red Storm Development Team.
RE: Will it be better than Combat Mission
I will buy both[:D] Unlike Germany, I can fight in the East and West at the same time [:'(]
Shock Force will be gone when the new Normandy game comes out and is game will replace CMBB (RIP) when the update hits
Shock Force is ok, but WWII is my cup of tea [&o]
Shock Force will be gone when the new Normandy game comes out and is game will replace CMBB (RIP) when the update hits

Shock Force is ok, but WWII is my cup of tea [&o]
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RE: Will it be better than Combat Mission
Shock Force was horrible can't wait for PC:Osfront.
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RE: Will it be better than Combat Mission
No bashing please - if you criticize a title, make it constructive criticism and back up your comments and explain your opinion.
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- Erik
Regards,
- Erik
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RE: Will it be better than Combat Mission
ORIGINAL: diablo1
Shock Force was horrible can't wait for PC:Osfront.
Shock Force was "buggy" when first released, but over time BF has done a great job with it.
IMHO - With the weapon systems of today, the SF modern game map sizes are way to small. War involves killing and breaking the other sides "toys" first, but with SF it's a "killing field". Plus the theater involved is very boring.
I think they should have went to Europe or some other place where NATO and Soviet armies could slug it out with a more balanced weapon systems. M1's vs a Toyota truck may be real life, but M1's vs T-90's, Mi24's, Su-27's and A-10's would have ROCKED!!! China or Korea would have been good too. But overall, it's a way better game today then D +1 release day.
SF is only leaving my computer for a WWII game, not because it's a bad game. I bought it in hopes of a WWII version and years later - it's coming[:D]
I am a WWII junkie. I have TOW2 and a few other Russian based games.
To be honest, I never know Panzer Command existed. It could be me, but it seems like the PR and main stream sim outlets didn't really push it. Again, it could just be me.[:)] I found Ostfront on Youtube one night and here I am[:D] I was looking for a replacement for CMBB and I think I found it. The game engine and rules may be different, by it's Eastern Front and I am love it!
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RE: Will it be better than Combat Mission
ORIGINAL: Jacko
JMass, that bow looks already much better. Good job! Will you also give the texture some more structure? It looks rather smooth.
I was poking around my old computer looking for some CM files and found a JackoBO4AK with some maps in it. You must have used the Map Convertor to do some maps for me back in those days.
Maybe I can repay you with PCO someday.
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RE: Will it be better than Combat Mission
ORIGINAL: junk2drive
I was poking around my old computer looking for some CM files and found a JackoBO4AK with some maps in it. You must have used the Map Convertor to do some maps for me back in those days.
Maybe I can repay you with PCO someday.
Well, if my memory serves me correctly it was the other way around. You were so kind to convert a number of maps for me from CMBO into CMAK. Hence the name of your file probably.
RE: Will it be better than Combat Mission
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I would like to see some of the old CMBB scenarios reproduced in PCO just to see if they are comparable.
There is a direct comparison of the two games published in this journal:
http://www.lulu.com/product/paperback/t ... -1/6538005
It was also discussed in a thread on this forum IIRC.
It would depend on your definition of "comparable". The games "complement" each other rather than compete, in my opinion, just as the "new" game engine for CM will not be competition for Panzer Command in the least. As pointed out, if you are a fan of the genre, you will probably be interested in multiple approaches to it. CMX2 is going to be very different from CMX1, which is different again from PzC - all of which complement each other.
RE: Will it be better than Combat Mission
ORIGINAL: Mobius
Gamesquad does have a CM forum which is more neutral ground than BFC or Matrix forums.
I agree, but I've never thought the forums here at Matrix were particularly biased either to be honest. Just slow sometimes to ban disruptive posters.
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RE: Will it be better than Combat Mission
ORIGINAL: Michael Dorosh
ORIGINAL:
I would like to see some of the old CMBB scenarios reproduced in PCO just to see if they are comparable.
There is a direct comparison of the two games published in this journal:
http://www.lulu.com/product/paperback/t ... -1/6538005
It was also discussed in a thread on this forum IIRC.
It would depend on your definition of "comparable". The games "complement" each other rather than compete, in my opinion, just as the "new" game engine for CM will not be competition for Panzer Command in the least. As pointed out, if you are a fan of the genre, you will probably be interested in multiple approaches to it. CMX2 is going to be very different from CMX1, which is different again from PzC - all of which complement each other.
I look forward to you guys getting the final version and doing it again. Good, bad or otherwise.
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RE: Will it be better than Combat Mission
ORIGINAL: Michael Dorosh
ORIGINAL:
I would like to see some of the old CMBB scenarios reproduced in PCO just to see if they are comparable.
There is a direct comparison of the two games published in this journal:
http://www.lulu.com/product/paperback/t ... -1/6538005
It was also discussed in a thread on this forum IIRC.
It would depend on your definition of "comparable". The games "complement" each other rather than compete, in my opinion, just as the "new" game engine for CM will not be competition for Panzer Command in the least. As pointed out, if you are a fan of the genre, you will probably be interested in multiple approaches to it. CMX2 is going to be very different from CMX1, which is different again from PzC - all of which complement each other.
I had forgotten that you put my article on the Red Army tank units in your journal. I hope it sells well for you.
Good Hunting.
MR
The most expensive thing in the world is free time.
Founder of HSG scenario design group for Combat Mission.
Panzer Command Ostfront Development Team.
Flashpoint Campaigns: Red Storm Development Team.
Founder of HSG scenario design group for Combat Mission.
Panzer Command Ostfront Development Team.
Flashpoint Campaigns: Red Storm Development Team.
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RE: Will it be better than Combat Mission
I don't understand...is he the author? He is 'selling' that here? Why doesn't he identify himself as the author in his post?
RE: Will it be better than Combat Mission
Has anyone done any Squad Leader scenarios for Panzer Command? If so where are they?
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RE: Will it be better than Combat Mission
ORIGINAL: Yoozername
I don't understand...is he the author? He is 'selling' that here? Why doesn't he identify himself as the author in his post?
The game looks really cool, Lewis.

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