1.04.10 Fulkerson vs Pelton

[Flaviusx]

ORIGINAL: larryfulkerson

My dudes are CV=1 and CV=2 and his are stronger than mine so I would be making suicide attacks if I attacked.

Not true. Ignore the on map CVs. Pay attention to raw unit strengths, terrain, command and control, leadership, and the state of the enemy, particularly if he is fatigued.

The displayed CVs are, at best, an estimate of strength that really have very limited predictive value of what actually happens in combat.

[paullus99]

The Russians can absorb the losses - the Germans can't. You have plenty of troops (even if they aren't Guards units) - you should be pressing him as much as you can.

[Scook_99]

Yes, Larry, you need to spend some time learning about attacking in this game. It isn't like comparing odds and rolling on a CRT where you will be eliminated. At worst, you generally will be 'scouting' the Germans on an attack and take few losses. Well, at worst will be a few thousand casualties, but out of the thousands you can attack with it's not that bad. Bleed the German and make him pay for being in Holy Russia!

Edit: I just thought of something, do you know how to attack a hex using multiple hexes of your units? (not being mean, you may have not read it). Click on one stack of Russians next to the spot you want to attack, hold down the SHIFT key, and move the mouse over the other stacks. Then click on the offending unit you want to attack. If those 9 units you have that are next to the German armor can muster enough strength for a 1:1 attack, Russian doctrine will make it 2:1 and the defender has to retreat.

[arras]

When attacking, look for units with low supplies (use soft factor). They seems to be weaker regardless of displayed CV.

Do not worry about your attacks fail. You will loose couple of thousand soldiers if they fail but so what? You are loosing much more in encirclements and routs. Out of all those units which just perished in that big encirclement, most never caused any casualty to enemy.

If you can succeed in your attacks 1 out of 3 times, it is well worth it. Especially if you attack his elite mechanized units. If you can retreat panzer division, it will loose anyway between 10-50% of its tanks! Sure it will not stop them, but over time, you can attrite those units so they will be much less dangerous.

If you see one of his mechanized units with 7 CV in defence or less, look if you have enough units around to attack it.

[larryfulkerson]

ORIGINAL:  Flaviusx

ORIGINAL:  larryfulkerson
My dudes are CV=1 and CV=2 and his are stronger than mine so I would be making suicide attacks if I attacked.

Not true. Ignore the on map CVs. Pay attention to raw unit strengths, terrain, command and control, leadership, and the state of the enemy, particularly if he is fatigued.

The displayed CVs are, at best, an estimate of strength that really have very limited predictive value of what actually happens in combat.

ORIGINAL:  paullus99
The Russians can absorb the losses - the Germans can't. You have plenty of troops (even if they aren't Guards units) - you should be pressing him as much as you can.

ORIGINAL:  Scook_99
Yes, Larry, you need to spend some time learning about attacking in this game. It isn't like comparing odds and rolling on a CRT where you will be eliminated. At worst, you generally will be 'scouting' the Germans on an attack and take few losses. Well, at worst will be a few thousand casualties, but out of the thousands you can attack with it's not that bad. Bleed the German and make him pay for being in Holy Russia!

Edit: I just thought of something, do you know how to attack a hex using multiple hexes of your units? (not being mean, you may have not read it). Click on one stack of Russians next to the spot you want to attack, hold down the SHIFT key, and move the mouse over the other stacks. Then click on the offending unit you want to attack. If those 9 units you have that are next to the German armor can muster enough strength for a 1:1 attack, Russian doctrine will make it 2:1 and the defender has to retreat.

ORIGINAL:  arras
When attacking, look for units with low supplies (use soft factor). They seems to be weaker regardless of displayed CV.

Do not worry about your attacks fail. You will loose couple of thousand soldiers if they fail but so what? You are loosing much more in encirclements and routs. Out of all those units which just perished in that big encirclement, most never caused any casualty to enemy.

If you can succeed in your attacks 1 out of 3 times, it is well worth it. Especially if you attack his elite mechanized units. If you can retreat panzer division, it will loose anyway between 10-50% of its tanks! Sure it will not stop them, but over time, you can attrite those units so they will be much less dangerous.

If you see one of his mechanized units with 7 CV in defence or less, look if you have enough units around to attack it.

Wow!  I wish there was a way to put a sticky on THIS post with all the really great advice it has, just for new guys like me.  I've been getting my but kicked for so long in so many games that this advice alone would have made a big difference.  You guys are really champs and heros to people like me.  Thanks.

[larryfulkerson]

Okie dokie it's T57 and here's the pocket before any Soviet movement:

[randallw]

I've only been read a bit of the tail end of your AARs, so maybe it's already been asked....and it's kind of a bad question so I approach this carefully......have you read the whole manual?

[larryfulkerson]

ORIGINAL: randallw
......have you read the whole manual?

Well yes, I have. But bear in mind that on a bad day I can't even remember my street address. Us guys that are over 60 are slowly loosing it every day, it's only that some of us are in denial. So most don't admit it, even to themselves. The old light bulb is getting slowly dimmer and dimmer. I'm not going to read you the rest of the quote. It's not funny.

[Scook_99]

ORIGINAL: larryfulkerson

ORIGINAL: randallw
......have you read the whole manual?

Well yes, I have. But bear in mind that on a bad day I can't even remember my street address. Us guys that are over 60 are slowly loosing it every day, it's only that some of us are in denial. So most don't admit it, even to themselves. The old light bulb is getting slowly dimmer and dimmer. I'm not going to read you the rest of the quote. It's not funny.

CRS, we'll find a cure some day! I am 44 and am noticing little things slipping. Getting old ain't for wussies.

[Panama]

ORIGINAL: larryfulkerson

ORIGINAL: randallw
......have you read the whole manual?

Well yes, I have. But bear in mind that on a bad day I can't even remember my street address. Us guys that are over 60 are slowly loosing it every day, it's only that some of us are in denial. So most don't admit it, even to themselves. The old light bulb is getting slowly dimmer and dimmer. I'm not going to read you the rest of the quote. It's not funny.

I don't mind the lights dimming so much, it's the stuff that breaks. A headlight goes out. A hinge starts sticking, stuff like that. [:(]

Fortunately the long term memory seems to stay good so I remember who that woman is next to me in the morning. [;)]

[Keunert]

wouldn't it be a lot more exiting if you would wake up next to a stranger each morning?
that would be my teenage wet dream heaven.

[larryfulkerson]

Okie dokie it's July 23, 1942 and here's the T58 front lines before any Soviet movement. Notice the Axis takeover of the deep south.

[larryfulkerson]

And here's the ground losses:

[larryfulkerson]

And the OOB:

[larryfulkerson]

And here's the air losses so far:

[larryfulkerson]

And here's the state of Soviet production so far:

[larryfulkerson]

Here's a close-up of the pocket before anything has moved yet:

[larryfulkerson]

Here's what the pocket looks like in T59 before any soviet movement but after Soviet recon has taken place:

[larryfulkerson]

Here's the ground losses so far:

[larryfulkerson]

Here's how the air war is going: