gids-tarhunnas(no tarhunnas)

[gids]

on advice il send some units from the northern front south

[gids]

otherwise i didnt do much more then reinforcing and sitting back

[gids]

Turn 98 partially mud
used all my AP to make Rifles to strenghthen my southfront ,i do opportunity attacks everywhere to be a drain on his manpower and armaments,also busy bombing his airfields....stil at a minus there in casualties of planes but i can afford it....can he?
atm i reconed the penza area and theres like a dam huge armada of panzers and motorized there and thats without the reinforcements of the crimea;i was thinking myself to attack towards saratov ,but maybe i should try to stay mobile and and let him grind himself into forces
?i seem to lean towards the idea that he still wants stalingrad,should i move the industry,tbh i think not ,it will be the year where everything will come to an end,either i finnaly stop an offensive or he takes stalingrad and all is lost.coming turns ill decide if i have the time and forces to push towards saratov or wait for his offensive....i do hate waiting but i learned some lessons if i attack to soon

[ComradeP]

The Axis are still much too strong for such an attack to have a realistic chance of success. Presumably all you'll achieve is losing the Tank corps.

Just wait, make small local counterattacks if possible, but primarily try to recover from the disasters of the previous two years. Try to preserve your good corps/Guards units and the mobile corps in particular.

[gids]

Turn 99
Crimea is still in mud and from what i saw hes retreating there,propably with the intention to hold the chokepoints ,atm i will let it be that way,dont have the force there to do anything,il send a cav unit later on to sevastopol to check it out
Around penza he did a full scale retreat to shorten his lines and did strenghthen his lines with new arrived Pzgrenadier divisions ,and i succeeded to hurt some of his panzers there in oportunity attacks,last but not least i couldnt hold myself(god i hope this wont go bad)and broke through his lines at tambov and surrounded 2 of his infantry divisions
in the airwar i bombed everywhere the Sh** out of him but it was disastrous over 1400 planes lost:( and we dont redo turns(although i was close doing that)
so he had a field day there
otherwise some units arrived from the north to reinforce tambov area and made 6 new divisions again

[gids]

the small scale attack

[gids]

disaster in the air

[gids]

some heroes who withstanded 3 assaults,prob testing the line

[kirkgregerson]

gids,
I believe to that you need to stop any planned offensives as they will probably just lead to your own troops getting pocketed and add to your incredibly high and revolting loses. You just have no strength to do much than maybe a few front line attacks with numbers on weaker spots.

You really need to wait about 6 months to a year, anything else would simply be foolish. It's your game to play, but I will be the first to say 'I told you so..' [:-]

[gids]

i know but i consider this a learning game now,i dont think il winn or tarhunnas will have to play really bad all of the sudden,dont see it happening that ,so ill tru to play more conserving but ill still try here and there something,but im very aware of my forces tx for the warning call

[gids]

Turn 100
i opened the turn and got a shockmoment again when i saw 3 cutt off tankcrps ,luckily it looked worse then it was and i could free them with 3 or 4 sharp countermoves ,i secured the flanks there with guardunits and putted a guard corps in the back for any other surprises ,but i think hell go in the reserve mode there,same with me ,i tried and lost ill pull next turn all tanks into the back ,learned my lesson.i brought in some extra units from the north in tambov area and also made some corpsunits ,overall my units are getting more effective
the airwar this week was better 98 from his planes against 68 from mines,one of his airfields got a severe beating with 12 runs over it and almost lost 80 planes
i made 3 more rifles and organized the front a bit more,still need AP for switching HQ and so on

[gids]

the counterattack

[gids]

Turn 101 complete mud turn,got 185 AP
spended those reorganizing the front ,made another 6 rifles ,puttes some corpses in the back and made a start doing a recon on the crimea area towards sevastopol,recon showed hes armored units are way in the back,i think he should have closed the game in the crimea past sevastopol not before it,now i have room there to build out my new southfront and push it again after awhile
also i noted a high concentration of forces in the tambov area ?staging point offensive or is he starting to go turtle mode,it would surprise me ,im still not what i should be in all means and if he stages an offensive he has a good chance of succeeding,i start putting my tank corpses and guardunits in the back like comrade suggested ,no risks will be taken coming weeks

[gids]

airlosses i found weird,i didnt do anything

[gids]

after some searching,seems they have some great teachers there

[76mm]

I've noticed the same kind of losses, it is kind of incredible.

[ComradeP]

Well, with 8393 training missions flown in bad weather conditions, the figure isn't all that surprising. Sure, it's high, but that's because the number of training missions is also high.

That's also only slightly over a turn's worth of production for the Soviets I believe, so it's not dramatic. You won't miss the kind of pilots who manage to crash their planes during training and you won't miss the aircraft either.

[76mm]

ORIGINAL: ComradeP

Well, with 8393 training missions flown in bad weather conditions, the figure isn't all that surprising. Sure, it's high, but that's because the number of training missions is also high.

That's also only slightly over a turn's worth of production for the Soviets I believe, so it's not dramatic. You won't miss the kind of pilots who manage to crash their planes during training and you won't miss the aircraft either.

First, I think it is rather surprising that so many training losses are incurred; if the bad weather is a factor, maybe they should fly fewer training missions? It looks like about 25% training missions ended in damaged or destroyed planes. I don't think that any army would accept that level of losses for training.

To say that it is no big deal that training losses almost equal a turn's production is also debatable--so what happens when he actually starts engaging in combat? This is a turn in which he apparently did nothing, and yet lost almost a turn's production--how is the Red Air Force supposed to grow? If the devs think the Red Air Force is overpowered it would be good if they could come up with a better fix.

[ComradeP]

For a single turn, it's no big deal purely from a production perspective. There seems to be a point where the VVS becomes so huge that training losses go through the roof. I'd say it's logical that losses are scaled to the amount of planes flying training missions.

I'm not entirely sure whether the damaged and destroyed planes are separate losses or if a damaged plane that's destroyed is registered both as damaged and destroyed, as I don't know how the system tracks the losses.

Roughly 1/10 planes being lost is a high number, but whether it's a true problem depends on whether it's only for this turn due to the bad weather or if it will be high in the future as well.

The VVS generally grows in bad weather turns like this.

I'm not saying that this might not be an indication of a problem, I'm saying that it depends on whether this is the exception or the rule.

[76mm]

I'd say it's logical that losses are scaled to the amount of planes flying training missions.

Well sure, but that begs the question of how they should be scaled, and how many training missions the computer flies, especially in bad weather