4.5 OOB Note and Comment

Arralen · Post by **Arralen** » Wed Dec 27, 2000 2:34 am

Originally posted by Major Destruction:
Other 75mm Aircraft weapons have HE Pen of 60. Suggest you use a number close to that.

Nope. This wasn't an A/C gun, or a converted howitzer - it was a PAK (using the same ammo as far as I know)

I'll wait for comment from Paul !!

Arralen

Harry · Post by **Harry** » Wed Dec 27, 2000 2:47 am

20mm Kwk30 L55 (008) is firing at aircrafts. This should not be possible.
Mounted on Armored Cars and SPWs

john g · Post by **john g** » Wed Dec 27, 2000 3:24 am

Originally posted by jsaurman:
Sometimes there are buttons for classes like "Tracked FO" that do nothing.

Another change I would like to see is the ability to buy just ONE of something. Tanks, trucks, guns, all are sold in multiples of two or four or more. What if I just want ONE??? You used to be able to buy a single med truck, you can't anymore!

I am sure I will have more comments, but that is all for now.

The catagory like tracked fo, that has no choices under it, are there because at that time period there were no vehicles for that task, though the oob may have had one there in previous versions of spwaw.

As for single vehicles, almost never would you send one vehicle out alone, fo's being one of the exceptions. You always send two, so if one breaks down, the other can tow it back.

Remember this is less than 20 years after a US army test that showed troops on bicycles could move further than troops on trucks, because the trucks broke down all the time.
thanks, John.

cjpaul · Post by **cjpaul** » Wed Dec 27, 2000 4:33 am

Regarding the Hs 129B-3 and the Bk7.5; The Bk7.5 was the Pak40 with the carriage removed, an automatic loader added, and a different muzzle brake. It used the same exact ammunition as the Pak40 and had the same EXACT performance as the Pak40.

Cheers,
cjpaul

Warhorse · Post by **Warhorse** » Wed Dec 27, 2000 4:52 am

Originally posted by Harry:
20mm Kwk30 L55 (008) is firing at aircrafts. This should not be possible.
Mounted on Armored Cars and SPWs

Well, yes it should, but really only on the PSW 221, 222, it was essentially the same weapon, and it had the mount to allow shooting at aircraft!!

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Mike Amos
Meine Ehre Heisst Treue

Steel Thunder · Post by **Steel Thunder** » Thu Dec 28, 2000 2:00 pm

Ju-87 Stuka G-1 with 37mm cannons is not a dedicated attack plane. I think it should be. It is true that you can't buy heavy flak for russians. Want that Hurricane IID with 40mm cannons, it was a real tankbuster in Africa.

Why USMC and British forward observers are so rare. Both have 93 in radio value.

Steel Thunder

Peregrine Falcon · Post by **Peregrine Falcon** » Thu Dec 28, 2000 10:44 pm

Originally posted by Major Destruction:

It is available with RAAF. Hurricane IID with 40mm cannon. Buy it there.[/B]

But it is still only available to ANZAC during 1942....This is not right...
It WAS used still in Far East during 1944.

And why it is not available to British forces?
Several RAF Squardons used it from 1942/43-1945.

I'm picky, but I also love this plane!

[This message has been edited by Peregrine Falcon (edited December 28, 2000).]

Redleg · Post by **Redleg** » Fri Dec 29, 2000 3:03 am

Japanese OOB in 42 -
A+ and A* infantry are listed as "elite" at the top but below, they are listed as "second line infantry".

Regular Japanese infantry have an option of SNLF Hq for each formation???

Major Destruction · Post by **Major Destruction** » Fri Dec 29, 2000 5:00 am

Originally posted by Peregrine Falcon:
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And why it is not available to British forces?
Several RAF Squardons used it from 1942/43-1945.

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Quite simply, there is no room in the UK unit list for it.

Major Destruction · Post by **Major Destruction** » Fri Dec 29, 2000 5:17 am

Originally posted by Redleg:
Japanese OOB in 42 -
A+ and A* infantry are listed as "elite" at the top but below, they are listed as "second line infantry".

Regular Japanese infantry have an option of SNLF Hq for each formation???

As I understand, the A formations were strengthened units- had more men and resources and were given to the best commanders.
B formations were regular units but not necessarily poorer soldiers, their deployment may have been suitable in different locations from strengthened units, I don't know.
C formations were used as garrison troops and found mainly in the conquered regions of China. Again they were not necessarily poorer quality troops indeed they may have been seasoned veterans but older or not so fit.

Since we have no C formations in the game, there are no "secondline" troops. Using that class was for convenience of separating the units in the various formations only.

Sometimes the classes 'cross over' into a formation to which they do not belong. This is why sometimes you will find platoons with squads of 20 men with knee mortars *and* the knee mortar squad. There were only 3 (or 4) knee mortars per platoon. The platoon commander would decide whether to allocate them piecemeal to the squads or use them together as a separate unit. Usually, any fourth kneemortar was used only in the platoon command squad for signalling. So you should have *either* one knee mortar per squad or 3 knee mortars per platoon but not both if you want historical compliance.

You see the same problem with those platoon HQ units. Just be sure to use the SNLF HQ with the SNLF squads if you want historical compliance.

If there is a way to better keep units out of the wrong formations, I am eager to learn.

Arralen · Post by **Arralen** » Sat Dec 30, 2000 4:03 am

Problem is - "second line inf" is supposed to work with v4.5 and give the troops -10 exp. . has anyone checked this ?

Arralen

Warhorse · Post by **Warhorse** » Sat Dec 30, 2000 5:32 am

Arrelen, that is only the function of the 'special flag' 20, I believe.It's like the Motorized, and Armored Engineers, i was sad to realize they are NOT really engineer classes in anything other than name, they will not clear, or lay mines

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Mike Amos
Meine Ehre Heisst Treue