RE: 1.04.36 KLilly vs Fulkerson T7

[larryfulkerson]

I exhausted my AP's building 6 rifle divisions at Stalingrad. They will come in handy when the Axis units that were reducing that pocket
just north of the Crimea entrances arrive on the front lines near Rostov.

[larryfulkerson]

This is my moves with an overlay showing my attacks:

[larryfulkerson]

Here's the oob, losses, destroyed units, and production for turn 61:

[Q-Ball]

Larry: Great AAR, and you are obviously doing well, so any advice I give isn't really needed in the long-run.

But for future reference.....your C and C is very strange.

You have pieces of fronts all over the place; NW front is up north, and south, so is Leningrad Front.

You are using a couple fixed HQ fronts (I think I see colors from Moscow, Urals, etc), which can be out of range, and probably have crap leaders.

There are 3 fronts in the Crimea....but none of them is Crimean Front. Which doesn't appear anywhere on the map! Where is that useful one? It starts with KONEV in charge, so it's one you need to get in play.

I realize the fronts are in pieces because you are shifting reserves. I tend to keep lots of Soviet units in STAVKA, until I am ready to commit to a front. Even still, I tend to keep entire ARMIES in STAVKA, sometimes through attacks. I hate to have so many units in STAVKA, but as the Soviets, you need to save APs for unit creation, so making C and C perfect is really a challenge.

Some of your fronts, like SW Front, are very much UNDER-loaded. I would try to use fewer FRONTS, but max them all out, or even a bit over

[larryfulkerson]

ORIGINAL: Q-Ball
Larry: Great AAR, and you are obviously doing well, so any advice I give isn't really needed in the long-run.

Thanks. I am reading other AAR's religiously which gives me hints and tips on what to do in this one. I'm always intending to
improve it and make it more informative but obviously fall short all the time. I'm not sure that indicating where what armies are is
all that informative but I can do more of that if you guys think it's needed. I'm kinda new at doing AAR's for WITE and I'm still
experimenting with what can be done.

ORIGINAL: Q-Ball
You have pieces of fronts all over the place; NW front is up north, and south, so is Leningrad Front.

I know........isn't it great.

ORIGINAL: Q-Ball
You are using a couple fixed HQ fronts (I think I see colors from Moscow, Urals, etc), which can be out of range, and probably have crap leaders.

Oooooooo, I hadn't thought of that. I'll look into it and swap / change what's needed. Thanks.

ORIGINAL: Q-Ball
There are 3 fronts in the Crimea....but none of them is Crimean Front. Which doesn't appear anywhere on the map! Where is that useful one? It starts with KONEV in charge, so it's one you need to get in play.

I wasn't aware that there is a Crimea Front. I don't have them all memorized yet and there's obviously some changes that need to
be made in the leaders and I need to save up some AP's to do it.

ORIGINAL: Q-Ball
I realize the fronts are in pieces because you are shifting reserves. I tend to keep lots of Soviet units in STAVKA, until I am ready to commit to a front. Even still, I tend to keep entire ARMIES in STAVKA, sometimes through attacks. I hate to have so many units in STAVKA, but as the Soviets, you need to save APs for unit creation, so making C and C perfect is really a challenge.

I seem to have the thought in the back of my head that once a division is assigned to an army that it tends to stay there. I haven't the AP's to make intra-front changes of HQ's and it tends to be expensive as I recall. Your idea of using STAVKA as a transfer device
is a good one though. I really appreciate all your ideas. I'm still learning.

ORIGINAL: Q-Ball
Some of your fronts, like SW Front, are very much UNDER-loaded. I would try to use fewer FRONTS, but max them all out, or even a bit over

Another good idea. Sorting out my C & C is something I'll do asap as soon as it's my turn again ( server game ). I gave some thought
to the ramifications of having the Northern Front units intermixed in with the Moscow MD units and didn't want to spend the AP's to
make the change and I thought that as long as the HQ unit is within range of it's divisions the lack of support from the front wasn't
all that critical. Especially given that I needed the additional rifles in the new spot very badly. Now that the initial crisis is averted I can
change what needs be changed. Thanks for your interest in this game. Your ideas are making it better. I'm having a blast playing
KLilly and want to thank him again for "paying it forward". What I mean is that KLilly bought the WITE game and gave it to me just to
play with him. I appreciated that and thought it was such a good idea that I bought a copy of WITE and gave it to some young man in
Italy whose name I don't remember right now. He said he was going to pay it forward as soon as he was able. Maybe the chain will
keep getting longer and longer. Cool.

[Q-Ball]

Crimean Front stars the game as North Caucausus, but changes name sometime in late '41, IIRC. It's kind of Greenish-Yellow in color. KONEV is in charge, and he is one of the top Soviet commanders.

IIRC, the Urals, and other MDs have really bad commanders. Because they are static, though, that's OK.

In general, I keep alot at STAVKA, until I am ready to make a permanent assignment. Reserves are always assigned to STAVKA. In particular, UNREADY and building units are always with STAVKA.

It's always much cheaper to move divisions from command to command, than Army HQs.

[Farfarer61]

I forget to move FBDs as an Axis player - in every game I have played - which is probably the the only unforgivable sin in WITE in 1941.
(getting out my Klingon Pain Stick)

Sov command structure is vital. Decide on a standard for your Army Hqs - standardization is better than optimization because you are 1 human and not 20,000 terrified - i mean fanatically dedicated - clerks in moscow. So, how about putting in each Army 1 RR brigade, 2 sapper regiments, 1 heavy gun, 1 AVGK artillery, 1 heavy mortar. No one will agree with this or what is best, but it is simple. This will change as years progress and your stuff gets better.

If an Army owns Cav Corps, buy enough tank battalions and sappers to give each Cav Corps 2 tanks, 1 sapper regiment. again, people will say something else is better and they are probably right, but this is soviet simple.

Units expecting to fight must not be under STAVKA control. If you are stting on APs, just hit "G" for auto assign. Be careful that an HQ is not selected when you do this

[Empire101]

ORIGINAL: larryfulkerson

A bit more RAM in my scull would help but, D'oh, I'm decreasing in RAM as I get older and can't
seem to remember stuff that used to be a bit easier to remember. It's an un-nerving feeling that you don't want to share with anybody.

If its any consolation Larry, its happening to me too [:(]
Damm, I hate getting older.

Great AAR by the way!![:)]

[larryfulkerson]

Here's the situation at the site of the latest KLilly breakthrough. Good thing it's here.....I just happened to have some reserve troops I
can apply to this breech.

[larryfulkerson]

Here's the T62 front lines before any Soviet recon or movement.

[larryfulkerson]

Here's my moves. Nothing else on the entire map moved. I did some attacks, and some airfield strikes and I have no more reserves
and I'm hoping I can stop these breakthroughs with what's there now.

[larryfulkerson]

Here's the OOB, losses, destroyed units, and production:

[larryfulkerson]

T63: Here's the front lines before any Soviet movement:

[larryfulkerson]

I spent some AP's building 6 Rifle Divisions at Stalingrad because I have reason to believe I'll need them in the very near future.

[larryfulkerson]

I railed in the Rifle Divisions I build two turns ago and wrapped them around KLilly's spearheads and I'm hoping that these break-
through's can be stopped soon. It's August '42 and almost time for the mud season to appear. I counterattacked and saved those
isolated divisions but I'm pretty sure he will create another pocket. I'm building more Rifle Divisions at Stalingrad because I think maybe
I'll have to employ them around these Axis spearheads. KLilly isn't one to stop when he encounters a hard place. I think maybe he'll
breakout for good one of these turns and strike out for Stalingrad before the winter season starts.

[larryfulkerson]

Here's my moves. Not much moved over the entire map.......I did some attacks and air strikes and will post the results.

[larryfulkerson]

I got one look at the picture above and realized that I forgot to move the Crimea stuff, so I did some attacks and managed to move some
Axis units and make some holes. Maybe I can cause a diversion here to take some of the pressure off the Rostov area.

[larryfulkerson]

Here's the OOB, losses, destroyed units and production:

[larryfulkerson]

Oh.......and I forgot to mention that I railed out all the AP points from Stalilngrad just in case.

[M60A3TTS]

It's good to see you inflicting the casualties at a rate he won't be able to sustain over the long haul.  It would be even better to work on a concentrated attack on some part of the line, particularly with guards rifle corps.  Minsk looks promising as you have the guards rifle divisions already there but can't see the entrenchment and CV levels obviously.