Explain to me how H2H point costs are fair

john g · Post by **john g** » Sun Jan 05, 2003 7:24 am

Originally posted by Goblin

The problem right now is that the German stuff is so much more expensive, at the listed encyclopedia cost. Compare the encyclopedia prices. These are for units of the exact same experience value. These prices are what the comp adjusts from .

Goblin

So your beef is that the game is unfair to the Germans?

I would guess that someone has a axe to grind against them.

The simple solution is just play anyone instead of the Germans, letting the newbees that don't know better take them.
thanks, John.

Goblin · Post by **Goblin** » Sun Jan 05, 2003 7:28 am

Thats not quite how I would describe it, or the solution I would use. I am starting to spot 10% (for starters) for the Germans I play against. I don't know if this is high or low or just right, but I aim to find out. The other way to do it is to set the stats the same for both nations, which brings the prices a little closer.

Goblin

tracer · Post by **tracer** » Sun Jan 05, 2003 7:44 am

I see all your points but I've always just accepted that the better (in-game) performance of the German tanks warranted the higher prices. I do agree that the cost of some SO/US units need to be increased somewhat from their new H2H values; maybe what didn't sit right with me was the arbitrary '10%' figure added to a German players points. During certain time periods this can be unfairly exploited, causing the opposite of its intended effect. Perhaps if some 'qualifiers' were added?

tracer · Post by **tracer** » Sun Jan 05, 2003 7:49 am

Originally posted by Goblin

I believe someone thought that US and Soviet units were not as good as German units experience wise, and set their prices lower, forgetting that True Troop already does this.

Well, Panzer Leo is German; can't blame him for rooting for the home team.

tracer · Post by **tracer** » Sun Jan 05, 2003 7:59 am

Almost forgot:

A Goblin should drink plenty of water and take 600mg of ibuprofen three times a day

Goblin · Post by **Goblin** » Sun Jan 05, 2003 8:21 am

Water? Then a Goblin would be grumpy. Sissy.

Goblin:mad:

tracer · Post by **tracer** » Sun Jan 05, 2003 6:13 pm

Originally posted by Goblin
A Goblin has the flu

WTF?

I was referring to this!

Goblin · Post by **Goblin** » Sun Jan 05, 2003 6:41 pm

I know that. A Goblin drinks manly coffee, and recommends it 4 out of 5. Water=sissy!

Goblin- A Goblin dares dehydration:mad:

tracer · Post by **tracer** » Sun Jan 05, 2003 6:52 pm

Oh, I thought you meant me! Cuz the only person who knocks me around is Mrs Tracer...constantly

Sorry for the confusion: I worked 50 hours last week and am having trouble getting out of pharmacist mode :rolleyes:

Goblin · Post by **Goblin** » Sun Jan 05, 2003 7:17 pm

Originally posted by tracer
Cuz the only person who knocks me around is Mrs Tracer...constantly

Sissy!

A Goblin is master of his cave! I rule the roost here!

If Orzel says otherwise, ignore him. I heard he drinks.

Goblin

Orzel Bialy · Post by **Orzel Bialy** » Sun Jan 05, 2003 9:00 pm

a candid interview with Mrs. Goblin!

Yes, be sure to keep an eye out for this special news piece....and learn the shocking truth behind the myth!

"Goblin: Legend in his own Mind" lol

:p

Goblin · Post by **Goblin** » Sun Jan 05, 2003 9:09 pm

I'm guessing Wild Turkey. Maybe large volumes of homemade stuff.

Goblin:rolleyes:

Orzel Bialy · Post by **Orzel Bialy** » Sun Jan 05, 2003 9:15 pm

Transcript of conversation held 12/28/02

Orzel says:
yeah...was going to let you know that I just sent you the turn..
Goblin says:
****....
Goblin says:
I can’t stay long…my wife set the kitchen timer for twenty minutes and it’s already down to 7 minutes left. L
Orzel says:
lol
Orzel says:
you can always surrender...my boys are gracious captors
Goblin says:
I might have to.. the wife has a pile of dishes a mile high for me to wash before I have to go to bed.
Orzel says:
that bad eh? Well...it could be worse...
Goblin says:
Yeah, maybe I guess. Though next week I might be on the forum a bit less because we enrolled in dance lessons.
Orzel says:
Dance lessons? What the Hell? LMFAO!!!
Goblin says:
OK, I have to go now. The timer just went off!

Yes...shocking, isn't it?!?!?!?

Goblin · Post by **Goblin** » Sun Jan 05, 2003 9:18 pm

Wow, that thunderstorm that was hovering over me just went West, against the wind, in a hurry!:eek:

Goblin

Orzel Bialy · Post by **Orzel Bialy** » Sun Jan 05, 2003 9:22 pm

really!

I'll be back in a minute...have to put those lightening rods up on my neigbors sheds again! :p Perfect decoys!!!

tracer · Post by **tracer** » Sun Jan 05, 2003 9:40 pm

Goblin · Post by **Goblin** » Sun Jan 05, 2003 9:52 pm

Ouch. And tracer scores!

Goblin:mad:

Orzel Bialy · Post by **Orzel Bialy** » Sun Jan 05, 2003 10:01 pm

he winds up...a slap shot....AND HE SCORES!!!

tracer · Post by **tracer** » Sun Jan 05, 2003 10:22 pm

You must have noticed the hat trick of smileys

rbrunsman · Post by **rbrunsman** » Mon Jan 06, 2003 1:06 am

Originally posted by tracer
I see all your points but I've always just accepted that the better (in-game) performance of the German tanks warranted the higher prices. I do agree that the cost of some SO/US units need to be increased somewhat from their new H2H values; maybe what didn't sit right with me was the arbitrary '10%' figure added to a German players points. During certain time periods this can be unfairly exploited, causing the opposite of its intended effect. Perhaps if some 'qualifiers' were added?

I still contend that the best way to determine who the best player is is to have both sides have equal points and have that mean that the equipment is balanced. That way the player who uses his equipment properly/better will win the game.

Why can't this be accomplished? Does anyone seriously disagree with Goblin's excellent explaination of the current problem with H2H?

By the way Goblin, thanks for carrying the torch for this stuggle. You understand the situation better than I do and I appreciate your efforts.

Now if Panzer Leo would only chime in here...

Explain to me how H2H point costs are fair

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