Ending an IJ wet dream - bluebook (J) vs castor troy (A)

[LoBaron]

ORIGINAL: Andav


It is a Castor Troy AAR. It is where he rants and raves about things. It is part of what makes it so entertaining.

Wa

I think so as well. AAR hijacking only with permission of the owner and, each one has his own way of posting.

Good luck on your war, CT.

[CT Grognard]

I apologise for my posts, and shall not post on this AAR again.

Good luck with your game, castor troy.

[Capt. Harlock]

an unescorted Val strike shows up and what happens? Many of the high morale KB bombers TURN BACK due to not having an escort... grrr...

High morale, perhaps, but not crazy! [;)]

[ADB123]

Castor -

I realize that you've got your security-month-lapse in place, but I would be very interested in knowing what you might try differently this time, particularly in the first year. You have a much better idea of the capabilities of the Game this time around, so do you have new ideas that you want to try out?

(I've never had the nerve or time to start another Allied pbem, although I did get a chance to start a second Japanese pbem almost a year after my first one, and I definitely did things differently in that second start.)

Thanks in advance -

[castor troy]

ORIGINAL: CT Grognard

I apologise for my posts, and shall not post on this AAR again.

Good luck with your game, castor troy.

no need to apologise at all and feel free to post as much as you want here. I just think that we completely misunderstand each other. The rant (one of the two in the initial post [:D]) was aimed at the fact that a majority lately seems to say the Japanese are nerfed in every aspect which I just can not see and in my example the initial strike actually sunk 4 of my BB and putting the rest in such a bad state that they won't see action until the end of the war (if I don't send them out with suicidial major flt trying to get them to the West Coast). And while saying the Japanese are so nerfed this goes in conjunction with "a second or third strike will shred KB's airwings due to murderous flak" which I also can't see at all (mind you this is a Babes campaign, not stock, so flak should be even stronger), not even when the enemy attacks at an altitude only halve of the real life attack height. This is what the rant is aimed at, at the rants about the Japs being so nerfed which I can't see. People seem to usually forget that "only" two BB were a total loss in real life as WITP's outcome in many aspects seem to have replaced our knowledge about what really happend. Compared to WITP the Japanese may be nerfed but compared to real life we are still in a 100% fantasy world in terms of Japanese abilities and I am not saying this is bad (it's a game) but I do say that I feel totally annoyed by the ongoing attempts that try to justify the Japanese abilities with realism - which cleary is not.

[castor troy]

ORIGINAL: ADB123

Castor -

I realize that you've got your security-month-lapse in place, but I would be very interested in knowing what you might try differently this time, particularly in the first year. You have a much better idea of the capabilities of the Game this time around, so do you have new ideas that you want to try out?

(I've never had the nerve or time to start another Allied pbem, although I did get a chance to start a second Japanese pbem almost a year after my first one, and I definitely did things differently in that second start.)

Thanks in advance -

well, different opponents but still the same map, same important regions and the same starting position of your troops will probably not change my overall strategy. Don't want to take away too much but bluebook turned out to be a very experienced guy that knows how to advance insanely fast which will cause some changes in my supply lines but there are still the same plans on what to do which is either advancing onto the SRA or advancing on Japan while not losing Australia, India or China. Doesn't sound like a great plan I know, but that's the goal. [:D] As in all my games so far, I really don't care much about the Pacific, doesn't mean I wouldn't attempt an offensive there but fighting 15000 miles away from critical areas is something I am not really keen on. With so many games played, I think it's not a new war winning strategy you pull out of your hat but more a methodical tactical approach.

Tactically I think I have had quite a good way (boring but effective), focussing on a base that can be built up to level 9 airfields and lay waste around it, move on, rinse and repeat. The first year will be of course mainly see me building up my positions while I try not to fight with my troops dispersed as this would mean the enemy can pick them off one by one while not suffering any real losses moving like a vacuum cleaner. Plan is again to build strongholds that are strong enough to cause the enemy some trouble, even if the Japanese can bring in 3000 av and take more or less every stronghold at some point, it will take time and it will cause losses to the enemy which will take even more time to recover from those losses. Having strongholds of course can lead to those strongholds being bypassed but this is something I am aware of and bypassing all strongholds won't be possible or will lead to enough Japanese units being bogged down to siege the strongholds that the offensive capability of the available rest won't be as strong as the Japanese would like it to be.

[Saros]

Are you using the new patch? As far as I know there is a new feature which causes severe fatigue on fighter pilots flying sweeps/CAP over 75% of their max altitude. It really seems to have evened out the stratosweep as when the initial dive is over the sweepers get chopped up in the dogfight.
Also I have never found the stratosweep to be that effective against a layered CAP. Sure you get the initial kills and then the sweepers get bounced by the higher CAP groups and it evens out.

[castor troy]

ORIGINAL: Saros

Are you using the new patch? As far as I know there is a new feature which causes severe fatigue on fighter pilots flying sweeps/CAP over 75% of their max altitude. It really seems to have evened out the stratosweep as when the initial dive is over the sweepers get chopped up in the dogfight.
Also I have never found the stratosweep to be that effective against a layered CAP. Sure you get the initial kills and then the sweepers get bounced by the higher CAP groups and it evens out.

yeah, we're running the latest official patch, used patches that had this feature in my earlier game too. From my experience the new fatigue feature is more a problem for the Cap, because you have to fly Cap every day and if you want to have fighters high up too (to meet the inevitable high sweep) then this will cause you more a problem than the sweeper because the sweeper can rest, Cap can't.

Still, I think high alt combat should be hampered far more, forcing it into realistic heights. This is where the routines work very well, at realistic heights with normal numbers involved. But go tell a PBEM player to come in at 10000ft to achieve a 1:1 kill rate if he can get a 3:1 (or whatever) coming in at 40000ft. [:D]

[castor troy]

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Dec 09, 41
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Invasion Support action off Kuching (58,88)
Defensive Guns engage approaching landing force

6 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.

Japanese Ships
xAK Zenyo Maru, Shell hits 1
E Shimushu
CM Kamome
xAP Miike Maru



6" Mk V/VII Gun Battery engaging xAK Zenyo Maru at 6,000 yards
CM Kamome firing to suppress enemy battery at 6,000 yards
E Shimushu fired at enemy troops


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Night Time Surface Combat, near Camiguin at 84,73, Range 12,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
CL Natori
DD Satsuki
DD Minazuki
DD Fumizuki
DD Nagatsuki

Allied Ships
xAP Neptuna




Maximum visibility in Partly Cloudy Conditions and 67% moonlight: 11,000 yards
Range closes to 10,000 yards...
CONTACT: Japanese lookouts spot Allied task force at 10,000 yards
Japanese TF attempts to evade combat
Range increases to 12,000 yards...
Range increases to 12,000 yards...
Both Task Forces evade combat


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Night Time Surface Combat, near Bataan at 77,77, Range 11,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
DD Kawakaze
DD Shiokaze

Allied Ships
AS Canopus, Shell hits 12, Torpedo hits 3, and is sunk




Maximum visibility in Partly Cloudy Conditions and 67% moonlight: 11,000 yards
CONTACT: Japanese lookouts spot Allied task force at 11,000 yards
Japanese launch Long Lance torpedoes at 11,000 yards before allies detect Japanese presence
DD Shiokaze fires at AS Canopus at 11,000 yards
Range closes to 10,000 yards
DD Shiokaze engages AS Canopus at 10,000 yards
DD Kawakaze engages AS Canopus at 10,000 yards
Range closes to 8,000 yards
DD Shiokaze engages AS Canopus at 8,000 yards
Range closes to 5,000 yards
DD Shiokaze engages AS Canopus at 5,000 yards
DD Kawakaze engages AS Canopus at 5,000 yards
Range increases to 6,000 yards
DD Shiokaze engages AS Canopus at 6,000 yards
DD Shiokaze engages AS Canopus at 6,000 yards
AS Canopus sunk by DD Kawakaze at 6,000 yards
AS Canopus sunk by DD Kawakaze at 6,000 yards
Combat ends with last Allied ship sunk...


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Night Time Surface Combat, near Ternate at 77,101, Range 11,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
CL Jintsu
DD Akatsuki

Allied Ships
AVD William B. Preston




Maximum visibility in Partly Cloudy Conditions and 67% moonlight: 11,000 yards
CONTACT: Japanese lookouts spot Allied task force at 11,000 yards
Japanese launch Long Lance torpedoes at 11,000 yards before allies detect Japanese presence
CL Jintsu launches Long Lance Torpedoes at AVD William B. Preston at 11,000 yards
DD Akatsuki launches Long Lance Torpedoes at AVD William B. Preston at 11,000 yards
Range closes to 7,000 yards
CL Jintsu engages AVD William B. Preston at 7,000 yards
Range closes to 6,000 yards
CL Jintsu engages AVD William B. Preston at 6,000 yards
DD Akatsuki engages AVD William B. Preston at 6,000 yards
Range closes to 5,000 yards
CL Jintsu engages AVD William B. Preston at 5,000 yards
DD Akatsuki engages AVD William B. Preston at 5,000 yards
Range increases to 8,000 yards
CL Jintsu engages AVD William B. Preston at 8,000 yards
DD Akatsuki engages AVD William B. Preston at 8,000 yards
Task forces break off...


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Night Time Surface Combat, near Djailolo at 78,100, Range 9,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
CL Jintsu
DD Akatsuki

Allied Ships
xAKL Mauban, Shell hits 1, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
xAKL Montanes, Shell hits 18, and is sunk




Maximum visibility in Partly Cloudy Conditions and 67% moonlight: 11,000 yards
CONTACT: Japanese lookouts spot Allied task force at 9,000 yards
CONTACT: Allied lookouts spot Japanese task force at 9,000 yards
Range increases to 10,000 yards
CL Jintsu engages xAKL Montanes at 10,000 yards
Range closes to 7,000 yards
Range closes to 5,000 yards
CL Jintsu engages xAKL Montanes at 5,000 yards
xAKL Mauban sunk by DD Akatsuki at 5,000 yards
CL Jintsu engages xAKL Montanes at 5,000 yards
DD Akatsuki engages xAKL Montanes at 5,000 yards
CL Jintsu engages xAKL Montanes at 5,000 yards
CL Jintsu engages xAKL Montanes at 5,000 yards
Range increases to 6,000 yards
CL Jintsu engages xAKL Montanes at 6,000 yards
DD Akatsuki engages xAKL Montanes at 6,000 yards
Range increases to 7,000 yards
CL Jintsu engages xAKL Montanes at 7,000 yards
Range increases to 8,000 yards
xAKL Montanes sunk by DD Akatsuki at 8,000 yards
xAKL Montanes sunk by DD Akatsuki at 8,000 yards
Combat ends with last Allied ship sunk...


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Night Time Surface Combat, near Gorong at 82,112, Range 11,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
CA Takao
CA Atago
DD Asashio
DD Oshio
DD Hibiki

Allied Ships
PC Zeeman, Shell hits 4, and is sunk




Maximum visibility in Partly Cloudy Conditions and 67% moonlight: 11,000 yards
CONTACT: Japanese lookouts spot Allied task force at 11,000 yards
CONTACT: Allied lookouts spot Japanese task force at 11,000 yards
CA Atago engages PC Zeeman at 11,000 yards
DD Asashio engages PC Zeeman at 11,000 yards
Olmsted A. orders Allied TF to disengage
Range closes to 7,000 yards
PC Zeeman sunk by CA Atago at 7,000 yards
Combat ends with last Allied ship sunk...

while our ships are trying to flee the SRA the enemy keeps to vacuum clean the sealanes with the bullet prove mid ocean intercepts...

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Night Time Surface Combat, near Gorong at 82,112, Range 11,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
CA Takao
CA Atago
DD Asashio
DD Oshio
DD Hibiki

Allied Ships
AVP Reiger




Maximum visibility in Partly Cloudy Conditions and 67% moonlight: 11,000 yards
Range closes to 11,000 yards...
CONTACT: Japanese lookouts spot Allied task force at 11,000 yards
CONTACT: Allied lookouts spot Japanese task force at 11,000 yards
Allied Task Force Manages to Escape
Allied Transport TF evades combat


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Night Time Surface Combat, near Ternate at 78,102, Range 9,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
CL Jintsu
DD Akatsuki

Allied Ships
AVD William B. Preston




Maximum visibility in Partly Cloudy Conditions and 67% moonlight: 11,000 yards
CONTACT: Japanese lookouts spot Allied task force at 9,000 yards
CONTACT: Allied lookouts spot Japanese task force at 9,000 yards
Bannister E. crosses the 'T'
lol, crossing the T? AVD William B. Preston and the invisible friend or what?
CL Jintsu engages AVD William B. Preston at 9,000 yards
Range closes to 7,000 yards
CL Jintsu engages AVD William B. Preston at 7,000 yards
Range increases to 9,000 yards
CL Jintsu engages AVD William B. Preston at 9,000 yards
DD Akatsuki engages AVD William B. Preston at 9,000 yards
Range increases to 11,000 yards
CL Jintsu engages AVD William B. Preston at 11,000 yards
DD Akatsuki engages AVD William B. Preston at 11,000 yards
Task forces break off...


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Night Time Surface Combat, near Ternate at 77,103, Range 10,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
CL Jintsu
DD Akatsuki

Allied Ships
AVD William B. Preston, Shell hits 1




Maximum visibility in Partly Cloudy Conditions and 67% moonlight: 11,000 yards
CONTACT: Japanese lookouts spot Allied task force at 10,000 yards
CONTACT: Allied lookouts spot Japanese task force at 10,000 yards
CL Jintsu engages AVD William B. Preston at 10,000 yards
Range closes to 8,000 yards
CL Jintsu engages AVD William B. Preston at 8,000 yards
Range closes to 7,000 yards
CL Jintsu engages AVD William B. Preston at 7,000 yards
DD Akatsuki engages AVD William B. Preston at 7,000 yards
Range increases to 8,000 yards
CL Jintsu engages AVD William B. Preston at 8,000 yards
Range increases to 12,000 yards
CL Jintsu engages AVD William B. Preston at 12,000 yards
Task forces break off...


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Night Time Surface Combat, near Ternate at 77,102, Range 11,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
CL Jintsu
DD Akatsuki

Allied Ships
xAKL Lepus, Shell hits 10, and is sunk




Maximum visibility in Partly Cloudy Conditions and 67% moonlight: 11,000 yards
Range closes to 11,000 yards...
CONTACT: Japanese lookouts spot Allied task force at 11,000 yards
Japanese open fire on surprised Allied ships at 11,000 yards
DD Akatsuki fires at xAKL Lepus at 11,000 yards
Range closes to 10,000 yards
CL Jintsu engages xAKL Lepus at 10,000 yards
DD Akatsuki engages xAKL Lepus at 10,000 yards
Range closes to 8,000 yards
Massive explosion on xAKL Lepus
DD Akatsuki engages xAKL Lepus at 8,000 yards
DD Akatsuki engages xAKL Lepus at 8,000 yards
Range closes to 7,000 yards
xAKL Lepus sunk by DD Akatsuki at 7,000 yards
xAKL Lepus sunk by DD Akatsuki at 7,000 yards
Combat ends with last Allied ship sunk...


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ASW attack near Kota Bharu at 53,75

Japanese Ships
TB Kari

Allied Ships
SS KXII



SS KXII is located by TB Kari
TB Kari fails to find sub, continues to search...
TB Kari fails to find sub, continues to search...
TB Kari fails to find sub, continues to search...
TB Kari fails to find sub, continues to search...
TB Kari fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Sub attack near Kota Bharu at 51,75

Japanese Ships
DD Sagiri

Allied Ships
SS KXI, hits 3



SS KXI launches 2 torpedoes at DD Sagiri
KXI bottoming out ....
DD Sagiri fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Sagiri fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Sagiri fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Sagiri attacking submerged sub ....
DD Sagiri fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Pre-Invasion action off Nauru Island (127,128)

Japanese Ships
DD Yunagi
CM Okinoshima
CM Tokiwa
PB Nagata Maru


Allied ground losses:
129 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 5 destroyed, 7 disabled
Engineers: 2 destroyed, 2 disabled
Guns lost 4 (2 destroyed, 2 disabled)


DD Yunagi firing at Wren Det.
CM Okinoshima firing at Wren Det.
CM Tokiwa firing at Wren Det.
PB Nagata Maru fired at enemy troops


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Amphibious Assault at Nauru Island (127,128)

TF 15 troops unloading over beach at Nauru Island, 127,128

Japanese ground losses:
40 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled



17 troops of a SNLF Squad lost from landing craft during unload of 51st Nav Gd
17 troops of a SNLF Squad lost from landing craft during unload of 51st Nav Gd


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Pre-Invasion action off Guam (106,95)
Defensive Guns engage approaching landing force

6 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.

Japanese Ships
PB Kohuku Maru
xAK Shofuku Maru



PB Kohuku Maru fired at enemy troops


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Amphibious Assault at Guam (106,95)

TF 98 troops unloading over beach at Guam, 106,95



12 Naval Support troops accidentally lost during unload of 5th Base Force /1
12 Engineers lost from landing craft during unload of 5th Base Force /2
12 Naval Support troops lost overboard during unload of 5th Base Force /2
12 Support troops lost in surf during unload of 5th Base Force
12 Support troops lost from landing craft during unload of 5th Base Force
12 Support troops lost from landing craft during unload of 5th Base Force


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Day Time Surface Combat, near Gorong at 81,113, Range 20,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
CA Takao
CA Atago
DD Asashio
DD Oshio
DD Hibiki

Allied Ships
AVP Reiger, Shell hits 14, and is sunk



Maximum visibility in Partly Cloudy Conditions: 28,000 yards
Range closes to 20,000 yards...
CONTACT: Japanese lookouts spot Allied task force at 20,000 yards
CONTACT: Allied lookouts spot Japanese task force at 20,000 yards
CA Takao engages AVP Reiger at 20,000 yards
Range closes to 17,000 yards
CA Atago engages AVP Reiger at 17,000 yards
CA Takao engages AVP Reiger at 17,000 yards
Massive explosion on AVP Reiger
DD Asashio engages AVP Reiger at 17,000 yards
Range closes to 15,000 yards
CA Atago engages AVP Reiger at 15,000 yards
CA Takao engages AVP Reiger at 15,000 yards
Range closes to 12,000 yards
AVP Reiger sunk by CA Atago at 12,000 yards
Combat ends with last Allied ship sunk...


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Day Time Surface Combat, near Kai-eilanden at 81,114, Range 21,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
CA Takao
CA Atago
DD Asashio
DD Oshio
DD Hibiki

Allied Ships
xAKL Bintoehan, Shell hits 7, and is sunk



Maximum visibility in Partly Cloudy Conditions: 28,000 yards
CONTACT: Japanese lookouts spot Allied task force at 21,000 yards
Japanese launch Long Lance torpedoes at 21,000 yards before allies detect Japanese presence
Range closes to 20,000 yards
Range closes to 16,000 yards
CA Atago engages xAKL Bintoehan at 16,000 yards
DD Oshio engages xAKL Bintoehan at 16,000 yards
Range closes to 13,000 yards
xAKL Bintoehan sunk by CA Atago at 13,000 yards
Combat ends with last Allied ship sunk...


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Invasion Support action off Guam (106,95)
Defensive Guns engage approaching landing force

1 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.

Japanese Ships
PB Kohuku Maru
xAK Shofuku Maru



PB Kohuku Maru fired at enemy troops


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Invasion Support action off Kuching (58,88)
Defensive Guns engage approaching landing force

13 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.

Japanese Ships
xAK Zenyo Maru
xAP Miike Maru
DD Hatsuyuki



6" Mk V/VII Gun Battery engaging xAK Zenyo Maru at 11,000 yards
6" Mk V/VII Gun battery firing at xAP Miike Maru


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Submarine attack near Billiton at 52,92

Japanese Ships
SS I-154

Allied Ships
xAP Matang, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage



xAP Matang is sighted by SS I-154
SS I-154 launches 2 torpedoes at xAP Matang


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Sub attack near Vigan at 80,73

Japanese Ships
xAP Husimi Maru

Allied Ships
SS KXV



SS KXV launches 2 torpedoes at xAP Husimi Maru

if my subs could just reliably hit freighters and transports...

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Morning Air attack on TF, near Batan Island at 87,70

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid spotted at 1 NM, estimated altitude 7,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 0 minutes

Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty x 9



No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
AO Trinity, Torpedo hits 4, and is sunk



Aircraft Attacking:
9 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 18in Type 91 Torpedo

what is left over by the IJ surface combat TFs is sunk by the Betties...

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Morning Air attack on Guam , at 106,95

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid spotted at 20 NM, estimated altitude 8,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes

Japanese aircraft
E7K2 Alf x 3



No Japanese losses



Aircraft Attacking:
3 x E7K2 Alf bombing from 6000 feet
Port Attack: 2 x 60 kg GP Bomb



--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Morning Air attack on TF, near Batu Pahat at 49,82

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid spotted at 13 NM, estimated altitude 6,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 3 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 13
Ki-48-Ib Lily x 6



No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
xAK Wulin
xAK Tai Sang



Aircraft Attacking:
6 x Ki-48-Ib Lily bombing from 6000 feet *
Naval Attack: 2 x 100 kg SAP Bomb



--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Morning Air attack on TF, near Talaud-eilanden at 81,95

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid spotted at 1 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 0 minutes

Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty x 7



No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
xAKL Luzon, Bomb hits 2



Aircraft Attacking:
7 x G4M1 Betty bombing from 6000 feet
Naval Attack: 2 x 250 kg SAP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb



--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Morning Air attack on TF, near Camiguin at 85,72

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid spotted at 20 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 8 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 8
B5N1 Kate x 8



No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
xAK Tantalus, Torpedo hits 3, and is sunk



Aircraft Attacking:
8 x B5N1 Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 18in Type 91 Torpedo



--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Morning Air attack on TF, near Sabang at 45,71

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid spotted at 6 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 1 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-IIa Sally x 5



No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
TK Pleiodon
TK Spirilla



Aircraft Attacking:
5 x Ki-21-IIa Sally bombing from 6000 feet *
Naval Attack: 2 x 250 kg SAP Bomb



--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Morning Air attack on TF, near Langsa at 46,72

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid spotted at 10 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 3 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-48-Ib Lily x 8



No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
xAK Zannis Cambanis, Bomb hits 1, on fire
xAK Demodocus



Aircraft Attacking:
8 x Ki-48-Ib Lily bombing from 6000 feet *
Naval Attack: 2 x 100 kg SAP Bomb



--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Sabang at 45,71

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 9 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 2 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 13
Ki-48-Ib Lily x 6



No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
TK Pleiodon
TK Spirilla, Bomb hits 1



Aircraft Attacking:
6 x Ki-48-Ib Lily bombing from 6000 feet *
Naval Attack: 2 x 100 kg SAP Bomb



--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Talaud-eilanden at 82,95

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid spotted at 11 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 3 minutes

Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty x 7



No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
xAKL Latouche, Bomb hits 1, on fire



Aircraft Attacking:
7 x G4M1 Betty bombing from 6000 feet
Naval Attack: 2 x 250 kg SAP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb



--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Langsa at 46,72

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 5 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 1 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-IIa Sally x 4



No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
xAK Zannis Cambanis, on fire



Aircraft Attacking:
4 x Ki-21-IIa Sally bombing from 6000 feet *
Naval Attack: 2 x 250 kg SAP Bomb



--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Sabang at 45,70

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid spotted at 16 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-48-Ib Lily x 9



No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
TK Mobilfuel



Aircraft Attacking:
9 x Ki-48-Ib Lily bombing from 6000 feet *
Naval Attack: 2 x 100 kg SAP Bomb



--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Sub attack near Batu Pahat at 49,82

Japanese Ships
SS I-162

Allied Ships
AMc Gemas
MMS-51
AMc Jerantut
ML No. 311
ML No. 310



SS I-162 launches 2 torpedoes at AMc Gemas
I-162 bottoming out ....
ML No. 311 fails to find sub and abandons search
ML No. 310 fails to find sub, continues to search...
ML No. 310 fails to find sub, continues to search...
ML No. 310 fails to find sub, continues to search...
ML No. 310 fails to find sub, continues to search...
ML No. 310 fails to find sub, continues to search...
ML No. 310 fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Pre-Invasion action off Wake Island (136,98) - Coastal Guns Fire Back!

33 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.

Japanese Ships
CL Yubari, Shell hits 1
PB Fukui Maru, Shell hits 1
PB Kaiun Maru
DD Hayate
xAK Aratama Maru, Shell hits 2, on fire
PB Kaikei Maru
PB Ikunta Maru
PB Hakkaisan Maru
AMC Kongo Maru


Allied ground losses:
63 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

[:@][:@] I ordered my two CV to intercept the expected Wake invasion as I was sure KB would stay long enough around Pearl so my CV would be safe but hey, of course my CV ended up one hex to far away (7) to launch a strike against the invasion TF... I hate those moments... in return a Mavis (from Kwajalein I guess) spotted our carriers at near max range, means I have to bog out of the area as KB could attempt to catch us... I want to take a safe route, so the two CV are ordered NORTH and will retire to San Francisco later on to form a 4 CV TF...


CL Yubari firing at 1st Marine Defense Battalion
1st Marine Defense Battalion firing at CL Yubari
5in Mk 15 CD Gun Battery engaging PB Fukui Maru at 6,000 yards
DD Hayate firing to suppress enemy battery at 6,000 yards
5in Mk 15 CD Gun Battery engaging xAK Aratama Maru at 6,000 yards
DD Hayate firing to suppress enemy battery at 6,000 yards
PB Kaiun Maru fired at enemy troops
PB Kaikei Maru fired at enemy guns
PB Ikunta Maru fired at enemy troops
PB Hakkaisan Maru fired at enemy guns
PB Fukui Maru fired at enemy guns
Defensive Guns fire at approaching troops in landing craft at 6,000 yards
Defensive Guns fire at approaching troops in landing craft at 2,000 yards


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Amphibious Assault at Wake Island (136,98)

TF 16 troops unloading over beach at Wake Island, 136,98



12 Support troops accidentally lost during unload of Maizuru 2nd SNLF /2
12 Support troops lost from landing craft during unload of 53rd Nav Gd


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Invasion Support action off Kuching (58,88)
Defensive Guns engage approaching landing force

6 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.

Japanese Ships
E Shimushu
xAP Miike Maru



E Shimushu fired at enemy troops


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Invasion Support action off Guam (106,95)
Defensive Guns engage approaching landing force

4 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.

Japanese Ships
PB Kohuku Maru
xAK Shofuku Maru



PB Kohuku Maru fired at enemy troops


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Ground combat at Hong Kong (77,61)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 22194 troops, 321 guns, 218 vehicles, Assault Value = 631

Defending force 7323 troops, 132 guns, 80 vehicles, Assault Value = 235

Japanese adjusted assault: 253

Allied adjusted defense: 237

Japanese assault odds: 1 to 1 (fort level 3)

Japanese Assault reduces fortifications to 2

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), forts(+), experience(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
1435 casualties reported
Squads: 7 destroyed, 136 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 10 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 30 disabled
Vehicles lost 7 (1 destroyed, 6 disabled)


Allied ground losses:
379 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 52 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled

Hong Kong won't hold long but the first attack was promising as the enemy suffered quite some disablements...

Assaulting units:
38th Division
66th Infantry Regiment
19th Ind. Engineer Regiment
20th Ind. Engineer Regiment
10th Ind. Mountain Gun Regiment
3rd Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
2nd Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
2nd RF Gun Battalion
2nd Mortar Battalion
5th RF Gun Battalion
1st Hvy.Artillery Regiment
20th Ind. Mtn Gun Battalion

Defending units:
Winnipeg Grenadiers Battalion
1st Middlesex Battalion
Rifles of Canada Battalion
Kowloon Brigade
102nd RN Base Force
Hong Kong Fortress


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Ground combat at Kuching (58,88)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 3423 troops, 25 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 126

Defending force 1674 troops, 9 guns, 4 vehicles, Assault Value = 46

Japanese adjusted assault: 53

Allied adjusted defense: 11

Japanese assault odds: 4 to 1 (fort level 0)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Kuching !!!

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(-), preparation(-), fatigue(-)
morale(-), experience(-)
Attacker: fatigue(-)

Japanese ground losses:
82 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 5 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled


Allied ground losses:
1185 casualties reported
Squads: 41 destroyed, 7 disabled
Non Combat: 54 destroyed, 5 disabled
Engineers: 5 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 7 (6 destroyed, 1 disabled)
Vehicles lost 3 (3 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Units retreated 2
Units destroyed 1


Defeated Allied Units Retreating!

Assaulting units:
143rd Infantry Regiment
7th Field AF Construction Battalion
32nd Field AA Battalion

Defending units:
Sarawak Force
2/15 Punjab Battalion
106th RN Base Force


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Ground combat at Wake Island (136,98)

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 2307 troops, 19 guns, 2 vehicles, Assault Value = 91

Defending force 1335 troops, 25 guns, 10 vehicles, Assault Value = 25

Japanese adjusted assault: 42

Allied adjusted defense: 4 [8|]

Japanese assault odds: 10 to 1 (fort level 1)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Wake Island !!!

Combat modifiers
Defender: leaders(-), disruption(-), preparation(-), experience(-)
Attacker: shock(+), fatigue(-)

Japanese ground losses:
174 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 23 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled


Allied ground losses:
1028 casualties reported
Squads: 35 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 75 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 22 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 33 (33 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Vehicles lost 12 (12 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Units destroyed 2


Assaulting units:
Maizuru 2nd SNLF
53rd Naval Guard Unit

Defending units:
Wake USN CPNAB
1st Marine Defense Battalion


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Ground combat at Nauru Island (127,128)

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 1592 troops, 12 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 59

Defending force 0 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 0

Japanese adjusted assault: 26

Allied adjusted defense: 1

Japanese assault odds: 26 to 1 (fort level 0)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Nauru Island !!!

Combat modifiers
Attacker: shock(+), leaders(-)



Assaulting units:
51st Naval Guard Unit



today BB number four sunk at Pearl Harbour, the rest suffered devastating damage...

[castor troy]

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Dec 10, 41
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ASW attack near Vigan at 80,73

Japanese Ships
CA Maya
DD Matsukaze

Allied Ships
SS KXVI, hits 4



SS KXVI launches 4 torpedoes at CA Maya
DD Matsukaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Matsukaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Matsukaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Matsukaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Matsukaze attacking submerged sub ....
Escort abandons search for sub


[:@][:@][:@]


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Submarine attack near Batavia at 49,97

Japanese Ships
SS I-121

Allied Ships
TK British Judge, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage

don't like my precious TK being hit... as the Allied I usually got the feeling that tanker losses for me are worth than tanker losses for the enemy...


TK British Judge is sighted by SS I-121
SS I-121 launches 2 torpedoes


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
TF 304 encounters mine field at Merak (48,97)

Allied Ships
xAP Mijer, Mine hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage


a mine that I-121 has brought in... so the damn bugger caught two ships today...

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Night Time Surface Combat, near Morotai at 83,100, Range 11,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
CA Haguro
DD Umikaze

Allied Ships
xAKL Princessa, Shell hits 8, and is sunk
xAKL Princess of Cebu, Shell hits 1, and is sunk




Maximum visibility in Partly Cloudy Conditions and 57% moonlight: 11,000 yards
CONTACT: Japanese lookouts spot Allied task force at 11,000 yards
Japanese open fire on surprised Allied ships at 11,000 yards
Range closes to 9,000 yards
xAKL Princess of Cebu sunk by CA Haguro at 9,000 yards
Range closes to 6,000 yards
CA Haguro engages xAKL Princessa at 6,000 yards
Range closes to 4,000 yards
xAKL Princessa sunk by CA Haguro at 4,000 yards
xAKL Princessa sunk by CA Haguro at 4,000 yards
Combat ends with last Allied ship sunk...


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Submarine attack near Hengchun at 83,67

Japanese Ships
xAK Chojun Maru, Shell hits 1, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage

Allied Ships
SS KXV

Japanese ground losses:
32 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 2 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled


xAK Chojun Maru is sighted by SS KXV
SS KXV attacking xAK Chojun Maru on the surface

that's a nice one, but why is a troop transport not escorted?

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ASW attack near Vigan at 80,73

Japanese Ships
DD Matsukaze
CA Maya

Allied Ships
SS KXVI, hits 3, heavy damage



SS KXVI launches 2 torpedoes at DD Matsukaze
KXVI bottoming out ....
CA Maya fails to find sub, continues to search...
CA Maya attacking submerged sub ....
CA Maya fails to find sub, continues to search...
CA Maya fails to find sub, continues to search...
CA Maya attacking submerged sub ....
CA Maya is out of ASW ammo
CA Maya is out of ASW ammo
Escort abandons search for sub

sub is trying to make Soerabaja but the chances aren't too good...

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Pre-Invasion action off Miri (64,87)

6 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.

Japanese Ships
APD Aoi
AMc Wa 19


Allied ground losses:
8 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled


APD Aoi fired at enemy troops
Defensive Guns fire at approaching troops in landing craft at 4,000 yards
Defensive Guns fire at approaching troops in landing craft at 2,000 yards


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Amphibious Assault at Miri (64,87)

TF 105 troops unloading over beach at Miri, 64,87

Japanese ground losses:
25 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled



19 troops of a IJA Infantry Squad accidentally lost during unload of I./124th Infantry Bn


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ASW attack near Toboali at 51,94

Japanese Ships
SS I-154



SS I-154 is sighted by escort
I-154 bottoming out ....
Sub escapes detection


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Day Time Surface Combat, near Nauru Island at 127,128, Range 20,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
DD Asanagi
DD Yunagi, Shell hits 1, on fire
PB Nagata Maru
xAK Tenyo Maru, Shell hits 7, on fire
xAK Kamikaze Maru

Allied Ships
CA Louisville, Shell hits 1

as the enemy was landing at Nauru yesterday I was pretty sure we will find some ships there today and sent in two heavy cruisers (both coming alone from two different directions) and I have deliberately chosen to send them in at daylight as I expected to see them performing better than during the night... and? Well, Houston used up all her main gun ammo for one hit during daylight a couple of days (hey, must have been one of those bad die rolls?) and what was Louisville doing today? Using up all her main gun ammo for no result either... sorry, but Allied ships are performing bad by default and a good result is a super lucky die roll... DAYTIME surface combat! And then look at the dozens of engagements the IJ had so far in the SRA, note the difference?

You might wonder where the second heavy cruiser is, well, Louisville retreated out of the hex due to no ammo anymore, the other cruiser parked in the hex RIGHT NEXT TO THE ENEMY TF AND DID NOTHING... yeah, compare this to the bullet prove vacuum cleaning in the SRA... you know, I think I do have a reason to rant some time...



Maximum visibility in Partly Cloudy Conditions: 28,000 yards
CONTACT: Japanese lookouts spot Allied task force at 20,000 yards
CONTACT: Allied lookouts spot Japanese task force at 20,000 yards
CA Louisville engages PB Nagata Maru at 20,000 yards
Range closes to 14,000 yards
CA Louisville engages DD Asanagi at 14,000 yards
CA Louisville engages DD Asanagi at 14,000 yards
Range closes to 12,000 yards
CA Louisville engages DD Yunagi at 12,000 yards
Range closes to 11,000 yards
CA Louisville engages DD Yunagi at 11,000 yards
CA Louisville engages DD Asanagi at 11,000 yards
Range closes to 10,000 yards
CA Louisville engages DD Asanagi at 10,000 yards
Range closes to 8,000 yards
CA Louisville engages DD Yunagi at 8,000 yards
DD Yunagi engages CA Louisville at 8,000 yards
CA Louisville engages DD Asanagi at 8,000 yards
Range increases to 10,000 yards
CA Louisville engages DD Yunagi at 10,000 yards
Range closes to 9,000 yards
CA Louisville engages DD Yunagi at 9,000 yards
CA Louisville engages DD Asanagi at 9,000 yards
Range increases to 11,000 yards
Range closes to 9,000 yards
CA Louisville engages DD Yunagi at 9,000 yards
CA Louisville engages DD Asanagi at 9,000 yards
Range increases to 10,000 yards
CA Louisville engages DD Yunagi at 10,000 yards
CA Louisville engages xAK Kamikaze Maru at 10,000 yards
CA Louisville engages xAK Tenyo Maru at 10,000 yards
Range closes to 8,000 yards
xAK Kamikaze Maru screened from combat
- escorted by DD Yunagi
CA Louisville engages DD Asanagi at 8,000 yards
CA Louisville engages xAK Tenyo Maru at 8,000 yards
Range increases to 9,000 yards
xAK Kamikaze Maru screened from combat
CA Louisville engages xAK Tenyo Maru at 9,000 yards
Jensen L. orders Allied TF to disengage
CA Louisville engages DD Yunagi at 9,000 yards
CA Louisville engages DD Asanagi at 9,000 yards
CA Louisville engages xAK Kamikaze Maru at 9,000 yards
Range increases to 13,000 yards
xAK Kamikaze Maru screened from combat
- escorted by DD Asanagi
CA Louisville engages PB Nagata Maru at 13,000 yards
CA Louisville engages xAK Tenyo Maru at 13,000 yards
Range increases to 19,000 yards
xAK Kamikaze Maru screened from combat
- escorted by DD Yunagi
CA Louisville engages PB Nagata Maru at 19,000 yards
CA Louisville engages xAK Tenyo Maru at 19,000 yards
Range increases to 24,000 yards
CA Louisville engages DD Asanagi at 24,000 yards
Range increases to 29,000 yards
CA Louisville engages DD Yunagi at 29,000 yards
CA Louisville engages DD Asanagi at 29,000 yards
Task forces break off...


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Morning Air attack on Manila , at 79,77

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 27 NM, estimated altitude 34,810 feet.
Estimated time to target is 8 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 29



No Japanese losses



Aircraft Attacking:
29 x A6M2 Zero sweeping at 32810 feet



--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Morning Air attack on Manila , at 79,77

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 21 NM, estimated altitude 36,810 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 29



No Japanese losses



Aircraft Attacking:
29 x A6M2 Zero sweeping at 32810 feet



--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Morning Air attack on TF, near Morotai at 82,100

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid spotted at 9 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 3 minutes

Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty x 6



No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
xAKL Luzon
xAKL Magallanes, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires



Aircraft Attacking:
6 x G4M1 Betty bombing from 6000 feet
Naval Attack: 2 x 250 kg SAP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb

Heavy smoke from fires obscuring xAKL Magallanes


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Morning Air attack on TF, near Port Swettenham at 48,79

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid spotted at 10 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 2 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 13
Ki-21-IIa Sally x 5



No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
xAK Wulin
ML No. 310



Aircraft Attacking:
5 x Ki-21-IIa Sally bombing from 6000 feet *
Naval Attack: 2 x 250 kg SAP Bomb



--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Morning Air attack on TF, near Groot Natoena at 58,84

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 15 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-IIa Sally x 7



No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
DD Pope
DD Pillsbury



Aircraft Attacking:
7 x Ki-21-IIa Sally bombing from 6000 feet *
Naval Attack: 2 x 250 kg SAP Bomb



--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Morning Air attack on TF, near Sabang at 44,69

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid spotted at 9 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 2 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-48-Ib Lily x 5



No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
xAKL Lipis



Aircraft Attacking:
5 x Ki-48-Ib Lily bombing from 6000 feet *
Naval Attack: 2 x 100 kg SAP Bomb



--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Morning Air attack on TF, near Palembang at 48,91

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid spotted at 16 NM, estimated altitude 7,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 5
B5M1 Mabel x 3



No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
xAKL Lyemun, Bomb hits 4, and is sunk



Aircraft Attacking:
3 x B5M1 Mabel bombing from 5000 feet *
Naval Attack: 2 x 250 kg SAP Bomb

Heavy smoke from fires obscuring xAKL Lyemun


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Morning Air attack on TF, near Bataan at 78,77

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid detected at 39 NM, estimated altitude 8,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 16 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 10
B5N1 Kate x 8



No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
AM Whippoorwill
AM Finch



Aircraft Attacking:
8 x B5N1 Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 18in Type 91 Torpedo



--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Port Swettenham at 48,79

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid spotted at 18 NM, estimated altitude 7,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 13
Ki-21-IIa Sally x 6



No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
xAK Wulin
ML No. 311



Aircraft Attacking:
6 x Ki-21-IIa Sally bombing from 6000 feet *
Naval Attack: 2 x 250 kg SAP Bomb



--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Gebe at 82,104

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 14 NM, estimated altitude 8,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Japanese aircraft
G3M2 Nell x 9



No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
xAP Legaspi
xAKL Surigao



Aircraft Attacking:
9 x G3M2 Nell bombing from 6000 feet
Naval Attack: 2 x 250 kg SAP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb



--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Groot Natoena at 58,84

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid spotted at 20 NM, estimated altitude 6,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 5
B5M1 Mabel x 3



Japanese aircraft losses
B5M1 Mabel: 1 damaged

Allied Ships
DD Peary



Aircraft Attacking:
3 x B5M1 Mabel launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 18in Type 91 Torpedo

I only expect 5% of the SRA ships getting out, 90% will be sunk by enemy ships, 5% by enemy air attacks...

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Amphibious Assault at Manus (101,119)

TF 114 troops unloading over beach at Manus, 101,119





--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Amphibious Assault at Balabac (70,84)

TF 256 troops unloading over beach at Balabac, 70,84

Japanese ground losses:
22 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled



17 troops of a SNLF Squad accidentally lost during unload of 2nd Sasebo SNLF Coy
17 troops of a SNLF Squad lost overboard during unload of 2nd Sasebo SNLF Coy


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Pre-Invasion action off Ternate (78,102)

2 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.

Japanese Ships
TB Tomozuru
TB Chidori
APD Nadakaze



TB Tomozuru fired at enemy troops
TB Chidori fired at enemy troops
Defensive Guns fire at approaching troops in landing craft at 6,000 yards
Defensive Guns fire at approaching troops in landing craft at 2,000 yards


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Amphibious Assault at Ternate (78,102)

TF 376 troops unloading over beach at Ternate, 78,102





--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Ground combat at Hong Kong (77,61)

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 2155 troops, 153 guns, 133 vehicles, Assault Value = 516

Defending force 7040 troops, 132 guns, 80 vehicles, Assault Value = 186

Japanese ground losses:
Guns lost 11 (4 destroyed, 7 disabled)


Allied ground losses:
15 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled


Assaulting units:
66th Infantry Regiment
19th Ind. Engineer Regiment
38th Division
20th Ind. Engineer Regiment
2nd RF Gun Battalion
2nd Mortar Battalion
1st Hvy.Artillery Regiment
10th Ind. Mountain Gun Regiment
3rd Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
5th RF Gun Battalion
2nd Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
20th Ind. Mtn Gun Battalion

Defending units:
Rifles of Canada Battalion
Winnipeg Grenadiers Battalion
Kowloon Brigade
1st Middlesex Battalion
102nd RN Base Force
Hong Kong Fortress


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Ground combat at Guam (106,95)

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 4404 troops, 18 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 31

Defending force 904 troops, 0 guns, 32 vehicles, Assault Value = 10

Japanese adjusted assault: 50

Allied adjusted defense: 17

Japanese assault odds: 2 to 1 (fort level 1)

Japanese Assault reduces fortifications to 0

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(-), experience(-)
Attacker: shock(+)

Japanese ground losses:
21 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled


Allied ground losses:
13 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled


Assaulting units:
5th Base Force

Defending units:
Guam USN Base Force


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Ground combat at San Fernando (80,74)

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 52 troops, 3 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 5

Defending force 0 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 0

Japanese adjusted assault: 6

Allied adjusted defense: 1

Japanese assault odds: 6 to 1 (fort level 0)

Japanese forces CAPTURE San Fernando !!!

Combat modifiers
Attacker: shock(+), leaders(+), leaders(-)



Assaulting units:
Yokosuka 1st SNLF /3


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Ground combat at Tuguegarao (82,74)

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 87 troops, 2 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 191

Defending force 0 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 0

Japanese adjusted assault: 4

Allied adjusted defense: 1

Japanese assault odds: 4 to 1 (fort level 0)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Tuguegarao !!!

Combat modifiers
Attacker: shock(+)



Assaulting units:
2nd Tank Regiment
7th Tank Regiment
4th Tank Regiment
48th Recon Regiment
Yokosuka 3rd SNLF /3

[Kereguelen]

ORIGINAL: castor troy

Day Time Surface Combat, near Nauru Island at 127,128, Range 20,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
DD Asanagi
DD Yunagi, Shell hits 1, on fire
PB Nagata Maru
xAK Tenyo Maru, Shell hits 7, on fire
xAK Kamikaze Maru

Allied Ships
CA Louisville, Shell hits 1

as the enemy was landing at Nauru yesterday I was pretty sure we will find some ships there today and sent in two heavy cruisers (both coming alone from two different directions) and I have deliberately chosen to send them in at daylight as I expected to see them performing better than during the night... and? Well, Houston used up all her main gun ammo for one hit during daylight a couple of days (hey, must have been one of those bad die rolls?) and what was Louisville doing today? Using up all her main gun ammo for no result either... sorry, but Allied ships are performing bad by default and a good result is a super lucky die roll... DAYTIME surface combat! And then look at the dozens of engagements the IJ had so far in the SRA, note the difference?

You might wonder where the second heavy cruiser is, well, Louisville retreated out of the hex due to no ammo anymore, the other cruiser parked in the hex RIGHT NEXT TO THE ENEMY TF AND DID NOTHING... yeah, compare this to the bullet prove vacuum cleaning in the SRA... you know, I think I do have a reason to rant some time...



Maximum visibility in Partly Cloudy Conditions: 28,000 yards
CONTACT: Japanese lookouts spot Allied task force at 20,000 yards
CONTACT: Allied lookouts spot Japanese task force at 20,000 yards
CA Louisville engages PB Nagata Maru at 20,000 yards
Range closes to 14,000 yards
CA Louisville engages DD Asanagi at 14,000 yards
CA Louisville engages DD Asanagi at 14,000 yards
Range closes to 12,000 yards
CA Louisville engages DD Yunagi at 12,000 yards
Range closes to 11,000 yards
CA Louisville engages DD Yunagi at 11,000 yards
CA Louisville engages DD Asanagi at 11,000 yards
Range closes to 10,000 yards
CA Louisville engages DD Asanagi at 10,000 yards
Range closes to 8,000 yards
CA Louisville engages DD Yunagi at 8,000 yards
DD Yunagi engages CA Louisville at 8,000 yards
CA Louisville engages DD Asanagi at 8,000 yards
Range increases to 10,000 yards
CA Louisville engages DD Yunagi at 10,000 yards
Range closes to 9,000 yards
CA Louisville engages DD Yunagi at 9,000 yards
CA Louisville engages DD Asanagi at 9,000 yards
Range increases to 11,000 yards
Range closes to 9,000 yards
CA Louisville engages DD Yunagi at 9,000 yards
CA Louisville engages DD Asanagi at 9,000 yards
Range increases to 10,000 yards
CA Louisville engages DD Yunagi at 10,000 yards
CA Louisville engages xAK Kamikaze Maru at 10,000 yards
CA Louisville engages xAK Tenyo Maru at 10,000 yards
Range closes to 8,000 yards
xAK Kamikaze Maru screened from combat
- escorted by DD Yunagi
CA Louisville engages DD Asanagi at 8,000 yards
CA Louisville engages xAK Tenyo Maru at 8,000 yards
Range increases to 9,000 yards
xAK Kamikaze Maru screened from combat
CA Louisville engages xAK Tenyo Maru at 9,000 yards
Jensen L. orders Allied TF to disengage
CA Louisville engages DD Yunagi at 9,000 yards
CA Louisville engages DD Asanagi at 9,000 yards
CA Louisville engages xAK Kamikaze Maru at 9,000 yards
Range increases to 13,000 yards
xAK Kamikaze Maru screened from combat
- escorted by DD Asanagi
CA Louisville engages PB Nagata Maru at 13,000 yards
CA Louisville engages xAK Tenyo Maru at 13,000 yards
Range increases to 19,000 yards
xAK Kamikaze Maru screened from combat
- escorted by DD Yunagi
CA Louisville engages PB Nagata Maru at 19,000 yards
CA Louisville engages xAK Tenyo Maru at 19,000 yards
Range increases to 24,000 yards
CA Louisville engages DD Asanagi at 24,000 yards
Range increases to 29,000 yards
CA Louisville engages DD Yunagi at 29,000 yards
CA Louisville engages DD Asanagi at 29,000 yards
Task forces break off...

The Louisville seems to have a generic captain in command. You should check his stats and probably replace him with a better CO. Don't underestimate the effect of good ship commanders.

Problem is, of course, that the IJN has lots of good ship captains while good ship captains are a rare commodity for the Allies.[:D]

This, btw., explains the somewhat problematic performance of Allied warships in WITP and WITP/AE (it seems that the original designers of WITP were under the impression that Allied ship captains were a bunch of underperformers and gave them according stats while the IJN database contains lots of excellent captains).

[EUBanana]

ORIGINAL: Kereguelen
This, btw., explains the somewhat problematic performance of Allied warships in WITP and WITP/AE (it seems that the original designers of WITP were under the impression that Allied ship captains were a bunch of underperformers and gave them according stats while the IJN database contains lots of excellent captains).

Well, yeah, this is well known. The British submarine force in 1944 is absolutely gutted due to the fact that only a tiny number of RN captains are anything other than bog standard mooks. And while the USN doesn't have that problem with masses of decent skippers, at least later on, you still have the crew experience issues.

The personnel of the Allied navies are basically largely incompetent, hence why as a general rule they punch below their weight even with big hardware advantages.

[castor troy]

Yeah, while I usually assign TF commanders worth something when I form up TFs at a base, Louisville was dispatched from another TF at Sea, means the captain of the cruiser is also the TF commander. But TF commander good or bad, why a heavy cruiser achieves nothing at all with all the 8 inch ammo it carries stays a mistery to me, this was a daylight fight. And the second one in only a couple of days with Houston being also one of the three stooges as EUBanana likes to call the Allied Navy and he's spot on.

[AcePylut]

Then why in my downfall scenario are my 2-4DD fleets wiping the floor of any and all IJN ships they encounter and barely being scratched in return?
[font=calibri]Face it, it’s 1941.  The Allies suck.  Their ships suck.  Their crews suck.  Their leaders suck.   Get used to it.  [/font]

[EUBanana]

ORIGINAL: AcePylut
Then why in my downfall scenario are my 2-4DD fleets wiping the floor of any and all IJN ships they encounter and barely being scratched in return?

No. If you look at ships that arrive in 1944 they have good experience.

Unfortunately the ships that arrive in 1942 will always suck because they have bad experience.

BB Howe, with experience 75, is gonna kick ass in 1944.

BB Prince of Wales, will not, as her crew are likely no better than they were in 1942.

Same ship class, same year, different arrival on map, different experience ratings.

Ship experience goes up very slowly, like one point per furball, so unless PoW gets into 20 battles she's stuck with 1942 level experience.

I imagine in your downfall scenario this is all totally turned on its head as even ships like BB Colorado or whatever might have 1944 levels of experience. Maybe in Downfall the RN have got more than 4 competent sub skippers too, I dunno. In the actual grand campaigns though it's a different ballgame. I always have SAGS based around 1944 arrival ships only. Even New Jersey is preferable to Iowa for this reason, Iowa came first, Iowa is less competent.

Also we have issues with yard queens like Mutsu with more competent crews than ships like Warspite, which is some sort of joke if historical accuracy is involved. The Allies didn't suck nearly as bad RL as they do in this, and where they did suck, they learned fast. In this game though Louisville there has night experience 34, you might get her up to 45 say by 1944 if she sees a lot of action and somehow survives (against all odds).

[AcePylut]

This battle is in 1941, so the allies suck, their ships suck, their crews suck, and what happened here is what I expect to happen: fire off all the main gun ammo and get 1 hit. I fail to see the problem here, or the cause for such ranting, but I enjoy reading the ranting, I just don't place any stock in it.

[castor troy]

ORIGINAL: AcePylut

Then why in my downfall scenario are my 2-4DD fleets wiping the floor of any and all IJN ships they encounter and barely being scratched in return?
[font=calibri]Face it, it’s 1941.  The Allies suck.  Their ships suck.  Their crews suck.  Their leaders suck.   Get used to it.  [/font]

lol, face it, your 1941 ships still suck in 45 and those sure don't whipe the floor with the IJN. Get used to it.

[castor troy]

ORIGINAL: AcePylut

This battle is in 1941, so the allies suck, their ships suck, their crews suck, and what happened here is what I expect to happen: fire off all the main gun ammo and get 1 hit. I fail to see the problem here, or the cause for such ranting, but I enjoy reading the ranting, I just don't place any stock in it.

then you fail to realize realism, easily put, sorry. A modern USN heavy cruiser in 1941 wasn't driven by complete idiots that would spend a thousand shells on an enemy convoy to achieve one hit. Before someone jumps on me due to exxageration again, I got no clue, perhaps a full ammo storage means less than a thousand shells, but roughly 100 per barrel doesn't seem that much to me and this would totally exclude any secondary ammo in my calculation so taking the game into real life, Houston would have fired probably more than a thousand shells on the enemy TF in broad daylight with nice weather for ONE friging hit! Hurrey! Lousville did tremendously better, scored 8 hits in total, for no imminent damage and over a thousand shells fired.

Just curious, are you trying to pull a leg with your statements or are you serious. Besides that, who knows how your downfall scen looks like.


edit: what EUBanana says, he points it out quite clearly.

[castor troy]

So, a little use of the internet and you find this on navweaps:

United States of America

8"/55 (20.3 cm) Marks 9, 10, 11, 13 and 14

At the Battle of the Java Sea in February 1942, USS Houston (CA-30) was able to maintain a ROF of 5 - 6 rounds per minute during the early part of the battle, possibly through the use of "cue-balling" techniques.

6) Most of the 9-gun cruisers as commissioned were to normally carry 100 - 125 rounds per gun with a wartime allowance of 1,400 rounds per ship. During the early part of the war, the Northampton and Portland classes carried 1,500 rounds per ship, but this was reduced during refits after July 1942 to just over 1,300 rounds in order to allow for added AA weapons. The New Orleans class was reduced during refits after August 1942 to 125 rounds per gun.

http://www.navweaps.com/Weapons/WNUS_8-55_mk9.htm



looks like my guess wasn't all that bad and this means both Houston and Louisville spent MORE THAN 1000 8 inch SHELLS! Houston achieved a whopping 1 hit, Lousville wins with 8 hits.

Saying everything that has been Allied sucked is a good answer if you try to think about what would have happened in real life if a heavy USN CA fires more than 1000 shells at an enemy convoy, excellent explanation. [;)]

I don't think this is all that reasonable nor realistic but it probably supports the "the poor Japanese are nerfed theory" quite well. [:D]

[AcePylut]

ORIGINAL: castor troy

then you fail to realize realism, easily put, sorry. A modern USN heavy cruiser in 1941 wasn't driven by complete idiots that would spend a thousand shells on an enemy convoy to achieve one hit. Before someone jumps on me due to exxageration again, I got no clue,

Realism? So how'd the allies do in the Battle of Makassar Strait, Battle of Badung Strait, Battle of the Java Sea, and Battle of Sunda Strait? I mean, lol, in the Battle of Sunda Strait, the Japanese sunk more Japanese ships than the allied ships did. Yes, you read that right. The Japanese sunk more Japanese ships than the allies did. Good job CA Houston!!!!!

Just curious, are you trying to pull a leg with your statements or are you serious. Besides that, who knows how your downfall scen looks like.

Go review the actual combat results of WW2, and ask yourself who's pulling who's leg? The one that says "omg it's 1941 and my cruiser didn't score but one hit against the enemy, game engine fail this suck it needs to be recoded so my cruiser doesn't suck" when factual history backs up allied cruisers sucking, or is the one pulling the leg the one that says, "oh, your cruiser only made one hit. Sounds about right for the allies in 1941" ???

Your ships are performing as they should. Major suckititude, just like irl. I fail to see the reason for your rant.

Saying everything that has been Allied sucked is a good answer if you try to think about what would have happened in real life if a heavy USN CA fires more than 1000 shells at an enemy convoy, excellent explanation.

I don't think this is all that reasonable nor realistic but it probably supports the "the poor Japanese are nerfed theory" quite well.

Well maybe you outta read how the Battle of Java Sea played out in real life [;)] and see what's "realistic" and "reasonable".