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MechFO
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RE: TOE Errata

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@MechFO - It's my understanding flame-throwers weren't shown on the KStN. You will need the corresponding KAN file which should be the same number and date as the KStN.

You don't find FT's per se but you find the number of Flammschützen, I assume 2 Flammschützen corresponds to 1 FT.

I found something useful with KSTN No. 1118 A+B Panzer Pio Kp for Pz Gren Regiments, motorized and armoured, Kriegsetat 44.

Pz Pio Kp for the mot Pz Gren Reg has:

3 motorized Platoons à 4 Squads, 1 MG per Squad, each platoon with 4 Flammschützen -> probably 2 FT's
6 Panzerschreck

armoured Pz Pio Kp for the arm. Pz Gren Reg has.

2 mot Platoons à 4 Squads, 1 MG per Squad, each platoon with 4 Flammschützen
1 arm. Platoon with 3 Squads, 2 MG's per Squad, no Flammschützen (1 x 251/17)
1 arm. FT platoon with 6 x 251/16
3 Panzerschreck

EDIT: The early war KSTN's that I have don't explicitly mention the number of Flammschützen, even if equipment clearly indicates that there must be some in the unit. Also, on second thought, since all FT's were 1 man versions, 4 Flammschützen might very well mean 4 FT's....FT production really ramped up in 43/44, so 4 FT per platoon might actually be possible.
As an aside I have found that the arm. FT platoon had 5 x 251/16 in 43.

Also, since this thread is getting crowded with other stuff I'll start posting in the other thread if I find anything.


Good stuff!
I think this KStN 1118 is very similar to the early war 1124, so I probably won't have to create a whole new type of engineer squads.

Know anything about the 251/1-II "Stuka zu Fuss"? As far as I can tell, the early war Panzer Pioneers had six of these kits issued for the single Panzer-Pioneer zug at the time. Can't find any information on if they were used throughout the entire war, though they do appear in a KStN for a Panzer Brigade in 1943.

Sadly no. I haven't been able to find anything. However judging from the fact that they were kits which were field mounted, I assume that they were used on an ad hoc basis. No idea how to represent this in game. Give every Pz Pionier Squad a few 28cm rockets! [:D]
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RE: TOE Errata

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See post number 36 above [:D]
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RE: TOE Errata

Post by TAIL_GUNNER »

@Pertti...I have seen pics of this beast throughout the war years on various versions of the 251/1, so I'm guessing you're right.

@MechFO, that may be a valid idea. I wouldn't want to model them as individual vehicles because I believe that the crew were actually members of the Panzer-Pioneer squad. They all got out and stood well clear while one guy pushed the launch button, then went on to their normal engineering tasks.

There is a 280/300mm device already in the game.......
hmmm....
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