RE: 1.05.61 Axis AI vs fulkerson

[CheerfullyInsane]

You Sir, are in serious trouble.
How serious depends on how well your opponent adapts to his new role as the Soviets.

I'm not very experienced with the Axis either, but you should be close to Mogilev at the end of Turn 2 and Pskov should've fallen by now.

Couple of things, though it's hard to spot trends from one screenie.

Concentrate your armor. Don't get reckless with them, but they have to push until the gas runs out. Flank security is the job of the infantry.

Presumably PG 1 has been busy establishing and clearing the pocket in the south, but the other 3 PGs really should be further along. And why in the name of all that is holy are you using armor in the Pripet marshes?!?
Get them out of there most ricky-tick. Use the PGs to swing around Pripet and cut the rail-links instead.
Yes, eventually it'll have to be scoured through to nail anyone left behind, but that's for SEC divisions or the cavalry, NOT armor.

The thing about playing the Axis in ´41 (and why I hate playing them) is that you have to PUSH.
You only have 17 turns before the mud hits, and you'll never have a better chance at hurting the Red Army than now. So the advance has to be somewhere between reckless and suicidal. [:)]

Remember that wherever you are at the beginning of September is probably going to be your final defense-line come blizzard. Any gains after that probably won't have time to dig in.

Having said all that, it is perhaps also the time to point out that you're doing far better than I did on my first attempt as the Axis. [:D]

[randallw]

Back to your game as Soviets, the armaments pool is still dry. I'm wondering what type of units you've ordered up, and how many of them. Running dry of armaments in 1941 looks a bit abnormal.

[larryfulkerson]

ORIGINAL: CheerfullyInsane
You Sir, are in serious trouble.
How serious depends on how well your opponent adapts to his new role as the Soviets.

I'm not very experienced with the Axis either, but you should be close to Mogilev at the end of Turn 2 and Pskov should've fallen by now.

Couple of things, though it's hard to spot trends from one screenie.

Concentrate your armor. Don't get reckless with them, but they have to push until the gas runs out. Flank security is the job of the infantry.

Presumably PG 1 has been busy establishing and clearing the pocket in the south, but the other 3 PGs really should be further along. And why in the name of all that is holy are you using armor in the Pripet marshes?!?
Get them out of there most ricky-tick. Use the PGs to swing around Pripet and cut the rail-links instead.
Yes, eventually it'll have to be scoured through to nail anyone left behind, but that's for SEC divisions or the cavalry, NOT armor.

The thing about playing the Axis in ´41 (and why I hate playing them) is that you have to PUSH.
You only have 17 turns before the mud hits, and you'll never have a better chance at hurting the Red Army than now. So the advance has to be somewhere between reckless and suicidal. [:)]

Remember that wherever you are at the beginning of September is probably going to be your final defense-line come blizzard. Any gains after that probably won't have time to dig in.

Having said all that, it is perhaps also the time to point out that you're doing far better than I did on my first attempt as the Axis. [:D]

All good ideas. Thanks for posting. I'm re-routing the tanks to a path around the north edge of the marshes instead. What was I thinking?

[larryfulkerson]

ORIGINAL: randallw
Back to your game as Soviets, the armaments pool is still dry. I'm wondering what type of units you've ordered up, and how many of them. Running dry of armaments in 1941 looks a bit abnormal.

I'll post a listing of the units and maybe together we can figure this thing out. I'd hate to be finding a bug with the new updated version.

[Apollo11]

Hi all,

Larry, we would need Axis autosavegame from turn when Axis AI left the southern Leningrad HEX...

Thanks in advance!


Leo "Apollo11"

[Apollo11]

Hi all,

I think that those would be turns #19 or #20...


Leo "Apollo11"

[larryfulkerson]

Here's the saved game from T20 ( the Axis is still sortof in Leningrad ).

[larryfulkerson]

Here's the saved game from T21 ( the Leningrad hex is empty ):

[larryfulkerson]

I searched through all the saved games and found the Armament numbers. Here's what I found:

The last column ( number of units ) is taken from the Commanders Report on the Units tab

Code: Select all

 TURN     Capacity            Dmgd         pool       built       number of units
 --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
 24          350              0           167687     1779250      1346
 25          350              0           132925     1852250      1391
 26          350              0           102650     1929250      1448
 27          350              0           46974      2003750      1504
 28          350              0           7071       2080750      1522
 29          350              0           0          2164000      1532
 

So um....now what do we do?

EDIT: Maybe this has to do with my changing versions mid-game. Maybe I should start over and use 1.06.04 and not change the version I'm using.

[Flaviusx]

ORIGINAL: randallw

Back to your game as Soviets, the armaments pool is still dry. I'm wondering what type of units you've ordered up, and how many of them. Running dry of armaments in 1941 looks a bit abnormal.

It's perfectly normal. It happens even faster in PBEM games. Especially if James is playing the Axis. High intensity combat will flatline the Soviet armaments pool by around October of 1941.

If you set the AI to hard, the AI can grind you enough to keep armaments tight all through 1942, btw.

[Apollo11]

Hi all,

ORIGINAL: larryfulkerson

Here's the saved game from T20 ( the Axis is still sortof in Leningrad ).

Got it - that is what we needed - thanks! [:)]


Leo "Apollo11"

[larryfulkerson]

Here's the losses from the Soviet moves / attacks in T33:

[larryfulkerson]

This is the losses, etc. from the Axis half of T34:

[larryfulkerson]

This should be the Soviet moves / attacks in T34:

[larryfulkerson]

This is the losses from the Soviet half of T34:

[larryfulkerson]

This is the losses, etc. from the Axis half of T35:

[larryfulkerson]

I seem to have isolated some Axis troops. Maybe the pocket will hold until next turn.

[larryfulkerson]

This should be the Soviet moves / attacks in T35:

[larryfulkerson]

This is the losses from the Soviet half of T35:

[larryfulkerson]

This is the losses, etc. from the Axis half of T36: